| have we signed too many players 12:19 - Feb 6 with 3806 views | nodge_blue |
Mick Mills has spoken before about needing a squad of 18 first team players. Some of those who can play more than one position. That keeps the players constantly involved with some ability to rotate. Then the other players promising youth teamers that can get some game time when the opportunity comes.
I think 22 first team ready is too much. Dom Ball will be fit shortly I see and potentially 5th choice central midfielder.
Marcus Harness for me has done enough this season to be the regular starter left side up front but arguably is now in some sort of rotation with Broadhead.
We haven't signed bad players but maybe we've signed too many and it becomes counter productive.
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| have we signed too many players on 13:00 - Feb 6 with 1353 views | Slimitfc91 |
| have we signed too many players on 12:57 - Feb 6 by FrimleyBlue |
How have we dropped from top and win 4 games in 3 months doing so much right. |
You appear to know everything about everything, maybe you should contact the club and offer your expertise, by telephone obviously, as you never set foot anywhere near Ipswich [Post edited 6 Feb 2023 13:02]
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| have we signed too many players on 13:01 - Feb 6 with 1340 views | DJR |
| have we signed too many players on 12:55 - Feb 6 by FrimleyBlue |
Of ALL the replies. And you're picking out one poster for their thoughts on the OP. |
Agreed. Let's play the ball, not the man. |  | | |
| have we signed too many players on 13:02 - Feb 6 with 1331 views | itfcjoe |
| have we signed too many players on 12:57 - Feb 6 by FrimleyBlue |
How have we dropped from top and win 4 games in 3 months doing so much right. |
This awful run though is 18 points from 12 games, i.e. enough for a 70 point season, so it's not like the wheels have totally fallen off and we are hopeless. If just one of those 6 draws was a win then it is just play off form in this blip |  |
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| have we signed too many players on 13:03 - Feb 6 with 1328 views | Metal_Hacker |
Personally I don't see the need for the number of players we have but that's what modern football requires , or so it seems
The big problem for me is that MODERN football doesn't exist in this damn league we find ourselves in
What's required IMHO is durability and stability ...of which we've offered very little recently
Not quite sure what's happening with the subs of late but when we're struggling performance-wise during a game changing 3 players at once seems too wholesale and disrupts even more.As opposed to a tweak here or there we make at least for the most , min two subs to start with |  |
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| have we signed too many players on 13:03 - Feb 6 with 1320 views | FrimleyBlue |
| have we signed too many players on 13:00 - Feb 6 by Slimitfc91 |
You appear to know everything about everything, maybe you should contact the club and offer your expertise, by telephone obviously, as you never set foot anywhere near Ipswich [Post edited 6 Feb 2023 13:02]
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Just a bloke writing on a forum slim. |  |
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| have we signed too many players on 13:05 - Feb 6 with 1300 views | Slimitfc91 |
| have we signed too many players on 13:03 - Feb 6 by FrimleyBlue |
Just a bloke writing on a forum slim. |
You missed out the words ‘with constant negativity’ in your reply | | | |
| have we signed too many players on 13:05 - Feb 6 with 1298 views | The_Realist_09 |
| have we signed too many players on 12:35 - Feb 6 by DJR |
Mick Mills also doesn't like all the substitutions in the second half because, along with opposition substitutions and time wasting, he thinks it tends to disrupt our play.
But with the number of players we have, I suppose this is necessary to keep people happy.
Incidentally, there haven't to my mind been many games where substitutions have changed the result, and if anything (Keogh at Wednesday and Charlton) they've actually counted against us.
Of course, you could argue that the changes on Saturday made a difference, but would things have been any worse if we'd stuck with the starting 11 who I am sure would have pulled back a goal?
I assume Premier League teams follow this approach, but perhaps we would be better if we decided on our best 11 and stuck with it, as Mills has also said. |
We must remember that whilst Mick was a great player, his managerial record hardly sets the world alight and we've seen that great players are not always great managers. | | | |
| have we signed too many players on 13:07 - Feb 6 with 1268 views | FrimleyBlue |
| have we signed too many players on 13:02 - Feb 6 by itfcjoe |
This awful run though is 18 points from 12 games, i.e. enough for a 70 point season, so it's not like the wheels have totally fallen off and we are hopeless. If just one of those 6 draws was a win then it is just play off form in this blip |
Wasn't that long ago though Joe you were pointing out we were going along nicely at 2ppg and nothing to worry about.
Blips are blips. It needs to end. We just want it to end.
Can't be saying if a draw was a win.. etc because that's not how it works unfortunately.
If we get out of this rut. Then we can look forward.. but we don't appear to be getting out of it. And that is concerning despite having everyone available. | |
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| have we signed too many players on 13:08 - Feb 6 with 1259 views | FrimleyBlue |
| have we signed too many players on 13:05 - Feb 6 by Slimitfc91 |
You missed out the words ‘with constant negativity’ in your reply |
Have you misread the OP? And the thoughts that have followed. | |
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| have we signed too many players on 13:09 - Feb 6 with 1247 views | Slimitfc91 |
| have we signed too many players on 13:07 - Feb 6 by FrimleyBlue |
Wasn't that long ago though Joe you were pointing out we were going along nicely at 2ppg and nothing to worry about.
Blips are blips. It needs to end. We just want it to end.
Can't be saying if a draw was a win.. etc because that's not how it works unfortunately.
If we get out of this rut. Then we can look forward.. but we don't appear to be getting out of it. And that is concerning despite having everyone available. |
It’s not concerning for you, you love it, you thrive on negativity, you are a very strange individual | | | |
| have we signed too many players on 13:14 - Feb 6 with 1223 views | Steve_M |
| have we signed too many players on 12:50 - Feb 6 by LankHenners |
For whatever reason we're not doing that as effectively as we were earlier in the season. The 'starters' if you like would get us going then the 'finishers' would come on and carry on or improve on the momentum gathered to see out or better the result.
Didn't win but against Bolton on the opening day looked a taste of what to come where we took a fairly even game into one we dominated and should have won but for poor finishing, same against Barnsley where the ref being a grade 10 moron cost us 3 points. Games like MK Dons, Shrewsbury etc. where we were able to start well then make changes to completely stop them having a sniff at coming back into it. Accrington subs were smart to keep pressure on and we broke through etc.
Then as you say Wednesday we gave them too much respect and allowed them to really put the pressure on and we crumbled, Plymouth we got it wrong taking Ladapo off, Charlton the subs were ineffective and made things worse for us and so on.
Obviously can get too granular with this and end up convincing yourself with hindsight that every outcome would and should have been different if xyz had have happened.
Lots of talk from the players earlier in the season about 'handing the baton over' with subs and it all working like one well-functioning machine but for me now it goes back to a bit of belief and mental strength where everyone's more hopeful things will work rather than genuine belief they will. |
I thought that Oxford (home) and Burnley were perfect recent examples of the substitutions allowing us to see out/put more pressure on as the matches ran down. Obviously less well against Plymouth and Morecombe was so well gone that what we changed didn't matter.
That needs a platform though and we just haven't provided that in recent away matches because we've not been good enough/not taken out chances in those. I don't think there's anything wrong with the approach in principle. |  |
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| have we signed too many players on 13:15 - Feb 6 with 1211 views | FrimleyBlue |
| have we signed too many players on 13:09 - Feb 6 by Slimitfc91 |
It’s not concerning for you, you love it, you thrive on negativity, you are a very strange individual |
Ignored my post morcambe and Burnley posts then yeah.
Go find someone else to stalk. | |
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| have we signed too many players on 13:29 - Feb 6 with 1140 views | Radlett_blue |
| have we signed too many players on 13:02 - Feb 6 by itfcjoe |
This awful run though is 18 points from 12 games, i.e. enough for a 70 point season, so it's not like the wheels have totally fallen off and we are hopeless. If just one of those 6 draws was a win then it is just play off form in this blip |
We can play with statistics, but we have won 2 of our last 8 League games & picked up 10 points. This is mid table form & 3 of these poor results have been against bottom half of the table clubs & most of these sides aren't very good. I don't buy the theory that it's just down to missing chances; in some of these games we've created very few clear cut chances. THe original poster's point that the lower half clubs have worked out how to stifle us & they will usually be delighted with a point against Town. What I don't know is the answer, but simply adding Hirst & Broadhead to the rotated front players doesn't yet seem to have done the trick.With Derby & Bolton both finding good form, we need to find something different to have a chance of automatic promotion, |  |
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| have we signed too many players on 13:35 - Feb 6 with 1109 views | BiGDonnie |
| have we signed too many players on 12:50 - Feb 6 by Slimitfc91 |
Staggering isn’t it, a nobody on a forum knows more than a manager that has worked alongside one of the greatest bosses that the world of football has ever known |
Wrong.
Dimleyblue is actually less than nothing. |  |
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| have we signed too many players on 13:38 - Feb 6 with 1077 views | nodge_blue |
| have we signed too many players on 13:29 - Feb 6 by Radlett_blue |
We can play with statistics, but we have won 2 of our last 8 League games & picked up 10 points. This is mid table form & 3 of these poor results have been against bottom half of the table clubs & most of these sides aren't very good. I don't buy the theory that it's just down to missing chances; in some of these games we've created very few clear cut chances. THe original poster's point that the lower half clubs have worked out how to stifle us & they will usually be delighted with a point against Town. What I don't know is the answer, but simply adding Hirst & Broadhead to the rotated front players doesn't yet seem to have done the trick.With Derby & Bolton both finding good form, we need to find something different to have a chance of automatic promotion, |
If we were Derby with momentum I think we could really have had some belief of closing the gap.
But since Christmas year we have gone away to Wycombe, Lincoln, Oxford and Cambridge and come away with 2 points. They are not even strong sides. We have no basis to believe that we will suddenly turn that around.
I agree we need to find something a touch different. We seem to have been negated too easily. If sides sit too deep then maybe we have to consider balls into the box for a forward to win headers and knock it down. | |
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| have we signed too many players on 13:41 - Feb 6 with 1050 views | sotd78 |
You'd think that would be true except we played the same team that won 4-0 and then failed to win against arguably just as bad a team. Squad numbers is far too simplistic. Mick Mills has an excellent track record as a really proficient game winning, award-winning, all time world record Manager. |  |
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| have we signed too many players on 13:49 - Feb 6 with 987 views | monty_radio |
| have we signed too many players on 12:40 - Feb 6 by Slimitfc91 |
I must have missed the time when Mick Mills was a successful manager |
But by that token Lineker and numerous others would either not have or not be granted any insight, and likewise, all sports reporters' opinions would be invalid. The ability to identify a problem and the know-how to put it right are not the same skill. [Post edited 6 Feb 2023 13:51]
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| have we signed too many players on 13:54 - Feb 6 with 951 views | Slimitfc91 |
| have we signed too many players on 12:56 - Feb 6 by chicoazul |
Solskjaer? |
Mourinho | | | |
| have we signed too many players on 14:12 - Feb 6 with 883 views | FrimleyBlue |
| have we signed too many players on 13:35 - Feb 6 by BiGDonnie |
Wrong.
Dimleyblue is actually less than nothing. |
Have an uppy. Put a lot of effort in there. | |
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| have we signed too many players on 15:05 - Feb 6 with 798 views | BigCommon |
I don't think so.. We've been caught out with injuries already this season.
Coming into the January window, I think it's fare to say that we needed a back up for Ladapo and JD, which we've done..(Hirst and Clatke)
I would say the short term Luongo signing was "handy", giving us some strength and experienced back up in midfield, with no long term risk.
Previous to Saturday's performance from Broadhead (which was iffy). I think most of us were thinking that we'd got a player in the 10 role that offered us something more dynamic and direct, than Harness has been showing lately. And that Edwards can't really do from a more central role, imo.
With Ball, Camara and TJJ all being long term absentees. I haven't got a problem with the January signings, predominantly through the middle... I mean, the OP says Ball "will be fit shortly".. I find it hard to believe that he will be any where near match fit, for a while yet. And there's every possibility that any of our long term absentees could break down again, if rushed back into the first team...So having extra bodies, is a massive plus , imo. As oppose to being really stretched again, at the most important time of our season..
Humphreys proved a useful back up, earlier in the season. But started to struggle a bit after 3 or 4 games, imo And it's just not fare to put a hell of a lot of pressure on such young shoulders, imo..
Have we got too many players?....No
Is managing a larger squad, potentially more difficult?.. Certainly.. But if KM recons the current crop have all got the right "character", as mentioned a few times. Then we'll be ok..
We'll see how it unravels over the next few weeks.
But there were some pi55 poor performances on Saturday. Those players can't start blaming a bloated squad for their showing.. As they were all given the shirt on Saturday.. And not left back in Ipswich, like a few others..
There's one other issue I'll touch on.. Now we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. But , imo, KM comes across as a "Mr Nice" kind of manager. Almost in the mold of Solskjaer, whom he worked under at Utd.. If so, then maybe its time to turn the heat up on some of our squad? Stop being Mr Nice. There's a hugely serious job to be done, in getting us out of this division.. If any player is getting finnicky about their squad role. Then remind them what their job is and who pays their wages. And if they want to sulk or get silly, then, in all honesty, I'd get them out of the room...Play time is over. I think a small squad gives a lot more power to some players. Right now, none of them are irreplaceable. But it's up to those that are holding the shirts, to keep hold of them. And don't give the manager a reason to drop them or supporters reason to critisise them.. It's that simple. |  | | |
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