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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season 22:13 - Feb 11 with 6308 viewsRIPbobby

The first game when they consistently threw objects at our keeper and linesman. Hence the late offside goal was not given as lino was afraid for his life. What did the EFL do nothing.

Today's match at 0-0 big Johnson elbows burns, lino sees it but can't pinpoint the culprit. Penalty, but no red.

So what have we learnt from them? We play fair and they cheat better. I'm surprised they didn't try and play with 12 or 13 players. Lol

So in the EFL cheats prosper.
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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 18:06 - Feb 12 with 1294 viewsBOBD

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 17:35 - Feb 12 by Herbivore

Think the load of tosh is coming from you here, fella.


So you are actually claiming that we were hard done by the officials yesterday?

Is that what you are really claiming?
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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 18:20 - Feb 12 with 1276 viewsHerbivore

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 18:06 - Feb 12 by BOBD

So you are actually claiming that we were hard done by the officials yesterday?

Is that what you are really claiming?


Yes, I think I made that pretty clear. I'm enjoying the fact that you think the fact we got a penalty but no red card for the most blatant penalty and red card you're likely to see is evidence that we got the rub of the green.

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 18:25 - Feb 12 with 1267 viewsBOBD

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 18:20 - Feb 12 by Herbivore

Yes, I think I made that pretty clear. I'm enjoying the fact that you think the fact we got a penalty but no red card for the most blatant penalty and red card you're likely to see is evidence that we got the rub of the green.


It wasn’t the most blatant penalty and red card you are ever like to see though was it?

I’m enjoying that you think the most blatant penalty you are ever likely to see was missed by nearly every single person in the stadium.

Paranoia is rife on here.
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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 18:43 - Feb 12 with 1251 viewsHerbivore

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 18:25 - Feb 12 by BOBD

It wasn’t the most blatant penalty and red card you are ever like to see though was it?

I’m enjoying that you think the most blatant penalty you are ever likely to see was missed by nearly every single person in the stadium.

Paranoia is rife on here.
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You don't think a deliberate elbow in the face in the area is a blatant penalty and red card? And you think it's everyone else that's lost their head? Okay, mate.

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:20 - Feb 12 with 1212 viewsTractorWood

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 18:25 - Feb 12 by BOBD

It wasn’t the most blatant penalty and red card you are ever like to see though was it?

I’m enjoying that you think the most blatant penalty you are ever likely to see was missed by nearly every single person in the stadium.

Paranoia is rife on here.
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No mentions of how lucky Harness was not to concede a late penalty after he was already told by the ref to stop holding their striker in the box. He then proceeded to effectively high rugby tackle him.

Perhaps it didn't permeate the blue tints of most on here.
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I know that was then, but it could be again..
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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:25 - Feb 12 with 1201 viewsHerbivore

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:20 - Feb 12 by TractorWood

No mentions of how lucky Harness was not to concede a late penalty after he was already told by the ref to stop holding their striker in the box. He then proceeded to effectively high rugby tackle him.

Perhaps it didn't permeate the blue tints of most on here.
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There was plenty of holding at the other end as well, from one set piece the defender nearly had Wolf's shirt off. Very bizarre take.

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:27 - Feb 12 with 1198 viewsBOBD

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 18:43 - Feb 12 by Herbivore

You don't think a deliberate elbow in the face in the area is a blatant penalty and red card? And you think it's everyone else that's lost their head? Okay, mate.


Blatant “deliberately lacking in subtlety and very obvious”.

Hardly anybody in the whole ground saw it.

So no, I don’t think it was blatant.

I think that we were fortunate that one of the few people in the whole ground to see it was a linesman that resulted in the awarding of the penalty.

You seem to think that we were unlucky that despite one of the few people in the ground to see it being one of the officials, they didn’t also get a red card.

As stated above, a penalty could easily have been awarded against Harness.

You are one eyed.
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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:37 - Feb 12 with 1183 viewsHerbivore

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:27 - Feb 12 by BOBD

Blatant “deliberately lacking in subtlety and very obvious”.

Hardly anybody in the whole ground saw it.

So no, I don’t think it was blatant.

I think that we were fortunate that one of the few people in the whole ground to see it was a linesman that resulted in the awarding of the penalty.

You seem to think that we were unlucky that despite one of the few people in the ground to see it being one of the officials, they didn’t also get a red card.

As stated above, a penalty could easily have been awarded against Harness.

You are one eyed.


The officials are paid to watch the game, I know it often doesn't feel like it, but we shouldn't really count ourselves lucky that they spotted a not exactly subtle elbow in the face. I don't think we're going to get close to agreeing on this, if you think the Harness one we got lucky it's rather one eyed of you to not also mention the blatant holding and shirt pulling that Wednesday were also getting up to at set pieces.

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:50 - Feb 12 with 1169 viewsBOBD

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:37 - Feb 12 by Herbivore

The officials are paid to watch the game, I know it often doesn't feel like it, but we shouldn't really count ourselves lucky that they spotted a not exactly subtle elbow in the face. I don't think we're going to get close to agreeing on this, if you think the Harness one we got lucky it's rather one eyed of you to not also mention the blatant holding and shirt pulling that Wednesday were also getting up to at set pieces.


It was the fact that Harness was clearly told not to and then continued to do it that made it differ from the other end.

I just cannot look at yesterdays match and feel that we were hard done by with the officiating. If we are classing that as hard done by then we really are an extremely fragile bunch.

They were just a bit more experienced and street wise than us and they created the best chances of the match. We scored a Worldie 1 in 20 free kick and got a fortunate deflection. We also missed a penalty which is not bad luck it’s bad play. We certainly weren’t hard done by.
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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:54 - Feb 12 with 1151 viewsHerbivore

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:50 - Feb 12 by BOBD

It was the fact that Harness was clearly told not to and then continued to do it that made it differ from the other end.

I just cannot look at yesterdays match and feel that we were hard done by with the officiating. If we are classing that as hard done by then we really are an extremely fragile bunch.

They were just a bit more experienced and street wise than us and they created the best chances of the match. We scored a Worldie 1 in 20 free kick and got a fortunate deflection. We also missed a penalty which is not bad luck it’s bad play. We certainly weren’t hard done by.


When you say "we", are you referring to Town or Wednesday?

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 20:07 - Feb 12 with 1140 viewsTexacoCup

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 18:25 - Feb 12 by BOBD

It wasn’t the most blatant penalty and red card you are ever like to see though was it?

I’m enjoying that you think the most blatant penalty you are ever likely to see was missed by nearly every single person in the stadium.

Paranoia is rife on here.
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The reason that everyone missed it (including me and the cameras, the ref and most in Churchmans) was that it happened away from the action. The linesman was looking down a line at the action and therefore did see the incident. Photos and videos since have shown that it was a clear penalty and the ref has said that if they could identify the culprit he would have been sent off.
How much it affected the game who knows but it is frustrating and I for one hope Johnson is banned retrospectively, as Morsy was.
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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 20:08 - Feb 12 with 1128 viewsBOBD

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:54 - Feb 12 by Herbivore

When you say "we", are you referring to Town or Wednesday?


Definitely Town. But I will admit that I have a very firm foot in the other camp too.

My Dad is the biggest Wednesday fan going. But my Mum is from Lowestoft and supports Ipswich so my Mum and Grandad won that one with me.
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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 20:18 - Feb 12 with 1103 viewsHerbivore

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 20:08 - Feb 12 by BOBD

Definitely Town. But I will admit that I have a very firm foot in the other camp too.

My Dad is the biggest Wednesday fan going. But my Mum is from Lowestoft and supports Ipswich so my Mum and Grandad won that one with me.


Fair enough. I only asked as a lot of your posts seem to big Wednesday up and do Ipswich down. That explains it.

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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 09:08 - Feb 13 with 951 viewsCityBlue

also check out the blatant push in the back on Burns for the Wednesday second goal - not sure how the officials missed that.

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 09:30 - Feb 13 with 930 viewsSwansea_Blue

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 18:43 - Feb 12 by Herbivore

You don't think a deliberate elbow in the face in the area is a blatant penalty and red card? And you think it's everyone else that's lost their head? Okay, mate.


I'm amazed he or the lino saw enough to give a pen and a yellow but not a red.

The laws of the game are pretty clear on this "a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible"

It's my emphasis of violent conduct, because that's always a red card offence. Typical FA introduce the issue of negligible force, but I don't see how deliberately swinging an elbow at a player's head can be viewed as negligible.

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 18:39 - Feb 13 with 864 viewsHerbivore

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 09:30 - Feb 13 by Swansea_Blue

I'm amazed he or the lino saw enough to give a pen and a yellow but not a red.

The laws of the game are pretty clear on this "a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible"

It's my emphasis of violent conduct, because that's always a red card offence. Typical FA introduce the issue of negligible force, but I don't see how deliberately swinging an elbow at a player's head can be viewed as negligible.


Didn't even give a yellow as they couldn't confidently identify who it was. They more or less admitted it should be a red card but they didn't know who to give it to. He'll get a retrospective ban for sure.

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:38 - Feb 13 with 823 viewsnethertonowl

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 09:30 - Feb 13 by Swansea_Blue

I'm amazed he or the lino saw enough to give a pen and a yellow but not a red.

The laws of the game are pretty clear on this "a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible"

It's my emphasis of violent conduct, because that's always a red card offence. Typical FA introduce the issue of negligible force, but I don't see how deliberately swinging an elbow at a player's head can be viewed as negligible.


Question, does any Town fan think there might just have been an element of gamesmanship from Burns?, or is he a paragon of virtue?

Strange that the linesman was adamant of a blatant elbow , but couldnt identify the white defender in a defence of three black guys and a 6 ft 4 man mountain, with a headband ,oh and a 5 ft 4 Bannan with blond hair!
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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:40 - Feb 13 with 819 viewsITFC_Forever

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:38 - Feb 13 by nethertonowl

Question, does any Town fan think there might just have been an element of gamesmanship from Burns?, or is he a paragon of virtue?

Strange that the linesman was adamant of a blatant elbow , but couldnt identify the white defender in a defence of three black guys and a 6 ft 4 man mountain, with a headband ,oh and a 5 ft 4 Bannan with blond hair!


Bannan is a ginger…

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Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 19:43 - Feb 13 with 814 viewsITFC_Forever

Wednesday cheated 4 points from us this season on 13:00 - Feb 12 by Deano69

Would appear the ref handed something thrown on to the pitch to the third official. It was from the north stand I believe.

Also, there seemed a be a little commotion during the minute silence, was that from the Wednesday supporters?


Big bad Dave_U is on one today with the downvotes.

Anyway, Deano is right that something was handed to the ref that had been thrown from the North Stand.
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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:54 - Feb 13 with 796 viewsnethertonowl

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:40 - Feb 13 by ITFC_Forever

Bannan is a ginger…


No its a rug!
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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:57 - Feb 13 with 794 viewsDubtractor

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:38 - Feb 13 by nethertonowl

Question, does any Town fan think there might just have been an element of gamesmanship from Burns?, or is he a paragon of virtue?

Strange that the linesman was adamant of a blatant elbow , but couldnt identify the white defender in a defence of three black guys and a 6 ft 4 man mountain, with a headband ,oh and a 5 ft 4 Bannan with blond hair!


I was in the stand at the other end, so couldn't see what happened at all, but to be fair to Burns he really doesn't do gamesmanship.

We have one or two other players who can be guilty of it, but not him.

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 20:00 - Feb 13 with 784 viewsMullet

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 19:38 - Feb 13 by nethertonowl

Question, does any Town fan think there might just have been an element of gamesmanship from Burns?, or is he a paragon of virtue?

Strange that the linesman was adamant of a blatant elbow , but couldnt identify the white defender in a defence of three black guys and a 6 ft 4 man mountain, with a headband ,oh and a 5 ft 4 Bannan with blond hair!


No. I think your side is chocked full of dirty cheating pricks though. The type to smash someone a couple of times in the face off the ball etc.

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 21:50 - Feb 13 with 702 viewsnethertonowl

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 20:00 - Feb 13 by Mullet

No. I think your side is chocked full of dirty cheating pricks though. The type to smash someone a couple of times in the face off the ball etc.


Your post from Tuesdays game at Burnley ! they're far dirtier than I expected and far more whingey too, whether that's because second string players are trying to make an impression of Kompany instructs them to be I can't say.

followed by but there will be times when we need Burgess to put a boot through anyone and everything

So which is it everyone else is dirty and your sweet and innocent or your just very bitter?
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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 21:56 - Feb 13 with 686 viewsSwansea_Blue

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 18:39 - Feb 13 by Herbivore

Didn't even give a yellow as they couldn't confidently identify who it was. They more or less admitted it should be a red card but they didn't know who to give it to. He'll get a retrospective ban for sure.


Ah, my bad. I’d somehow got it in my head he’d been booked.

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I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 22:01 - Feb 13 with 665 viewsMullet

I do think were just physically stronger at times.. on 21:50 - Feb 13 by nethertonowl

Your post from Tuesdays game at Burnley ! they're far dirtier than I expected and far more whingey too, whether that's because second string players are trying to make an impression of Kompany instructs them to be I can't say.

followed by but there will be times when we need Burgess to put a boot through anyone and everything

So which is it everyone else is dirty and your sweet and innocent or your just very bitter?


I think, I'm not the one hanging around on a rivals forum trying to pick imaginary fights like an oddball.

Burgess being physically capable and willing to put his body on the line is nowhere near elbowing people in the face repeatedly. You're coming off very badly here when you have mugged us for 4 points and used it to leapfrog us.

The idea you're not a tarted up Rotherham isn't exactly controversial is it?

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