| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football 11:52 - Aug 21 with 7561 views | Eireannach_gorm |
Wonder did he use his tongue? |  | | |  |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 12:48 - Aug 21 with 4063 views | SE1blue |
I watched the trophy presentation with my wife and we were surprised at how ‘embracing’ he was considering everything that Spanish women’s football has gone through recently and how it could be perceived.
However, we did also comment on how quick and happy the players were to embrace him too, so this is one where a photo can suggest two different stories on social media dependent on what people want to suggest.
Live, it didn’t look like anything sinister at all. |  |
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| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 19:06 - Aug 22 with 3492 views | RadioOrwell |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 12:48 - Aug 21 by SE1blue |
I watched the trophy presentation with my wife and we were surprised at how ‘embracing’ he was considering everything that Spanish women’s football has gone through recently and how it could be perceived.
However, we did also comment on how quick and happy the players were to embrace him too, so this is one where a photo can suggest two different stories on social media dependent on what people want to suggest.
Live, it didn’t look like anything sinister at all. |
It was a bit ( very ) creepy literally picking up the shorter players and then having a bit of a preview and not going for the taller girls. |  | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 19:08 - Aug 22 with 3489 views | JackNorthStand |
This isn't even a thing unless the women's team have come out and say it is. |  | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 20:39 - Aug 22 with 3406 views | Ryorry |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 12:48 - Aug 21 by SE1blue |
I watched the trophy presentation with my wife and we were surprised at how ‘embracing’ he was considering everything that Spanish women’s football has gone through recently and how it could be perceived.
However, we did also comment on how quick and happy the players were to embrace him too, so this is one where a photo can suggest two different stories on social media dependent on what people want to suggest.
Live, it didn’t look like anything sinister at all. |
If I'd been that player, my reaction would have been 'ugh'. But I was brought up in England, not Spain - maybe their culture encompasses reactions like that when emotions are running high? Although given the consequent storm about it over there, maybe not. |  |
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| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 21:21 - Aug 22 with 3357 views | BarcaBlue |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 20:39 - Aug 22 by Ryorry |
If I'd been that player, my reaction would have been 'ugh'. But I was brought up in England, not Spain - maybe their culture encompasses reactions like that when emotions are running high? Although given the consequent storm about it over there, maybe not. |
It's got little to do with culture, more to do with a completely unacceptable action wherever the guy comes from. He was forced to apologise, the biggest sorry not sorry you'll ever hear. |  | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 21:53 - Aug 22 with 3309 views | BarcaBlue |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 19:08 - Aug 22 by JackNorthStand |
This isn't even a thing unless the women's team have come out and say it is. |
Nonsense, with the recent issues in women's international football here and having just won the world cup they're only going to say what they are asked to say.
The initial reaction on instagram live from Hermosa was...
Eh, pero no me ha gustado. ¿Y qué hago yo?".
...but I didn't like it, and what can I do?
A few hours later it was a heat of the moment thing between friends. | | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 22:22 - Aug 22 with 3272 views | BigCommon |
Yeah, I'd kiss Sam Morsy if we won The FA Cup. A big fat kiss. And then carry on celebrating..
Football success is intoxicating..People do the strangest things when they are intoxicated, completely unpremeditated....
Inappropriate, definitely. But not with sleazy or dark intent...
The real story is Spain Women's brilliant Women's World Cup win. |  | | |
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| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 22:35 - Aug 22 with 3247 views | BarcaBlue |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 22:22 - Aug 22 by BigCommon |
Yeah, I'd kiss Sam Morsy if we won The FA Cup. A big fat kiss. And then carry on celebrating..
Football success is intoxicating..People do the strangest things when they are intoxicated, completely unpremeditated....
Inappropriate, definitely. But not with sleazy or dark intent...
The real story is Spain Women's brilliant Women's World Cup win. |
.. and you think Morsy would be comfortable with that? 20 minutes after the match finished. | | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 00:33 - Aug 23 with 3180 views | BigCommon |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 22:35 - Aug 22 by BarcaBlue |
.. and you think Morsy would be comfortable with that? 20 minutes after the match finished. |
Who cares, weve just won the cup. I'd like to think he'd be a sensible adult and put down to spur of the moment, high spirits.. He'd probably hate it if some wet wipe tried to make it into a " thing".. Instead of focusing on the cup success....😘 | | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 11:51 - Aug 23 with 3031 views | BarcaBlue |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 00:33 - Aug 23 by BigCommon |
Who cares, weve just won the cup. I'd like to think he'd be a sensible adult and put down to spur of the moment, high spirits.. He'd probably hate it if some wet wipe tried to make it into a " thing".. Instead of focusing on the cup success....😘 |
Who cares? A lot of people here including the PM. The action was unacceptable and his apology was pathetic. It wasn't spur of the moment but the medal ceremony well after the match had finished, if that makes a difference. I really doubt he would have grabbed a male player's face and planted a kiss. | | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 11:55 - Aug 23 with 3019 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 19:08 - Aug 22 by JackNorthStand |
This isn't even a thing unless the women's team have come out and say it is. |
It is a thing because he is their employer, and there is a resulting power imbalance which may make it difficult to speak out.
Besides, one of them already said that she didn't enjoy it. And then back-tracked a bit on that comment. | | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 12:20 - Aug 23 with 2990 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 11:55 - Aug 23 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It is a thing because he is their employer, and there is a resulting power imbalance which may make it difficult to speak out.
Besides, one of them already said that she didn't enjoy it. And then back-tracked a bit on that comment. |
And to add:
Regardless of the employment situation, consent is everything. No person has the right to force intimate physical contact on another.
Full stop.
Ever.
No excuses.
"I was a bit excited because we won a cup" doesn't cut it.
This also includes slapping or grabbing bums in pubs and clubs, pushing your groin into people on packed Tubes or buses.
Both are sexual assault and will get you put on the sex offenders register. Neither are "Just a laugh". | | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 12:22 - Aug 23 with 2974 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 22:22 - Aug 22 by BigCommon |
Yeah, I'd kiss Sam Morsy if we won The FA Cup. A big fat kiss. And then carry on celebrating..
Football success is intoxicating..People do the strangest things when they are intoxicated, completely unpremeditated....
Inappropriate, definitely. But not with sleazy or dark intent...
The real story is Spain Women's brilliant Women's World Cup win. |
There are so many things wrong with this post, its actually quite scary |  |
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| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 12:24 - Aug 23 with 2947 views | BarcaBlue |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 12:20 - Aug 23 by ArnoldMoorhen |
And to add:
Regardless of the employment situation, consent is everything. No person has the right to force intimate physical contact on another.
Full stop.
Ever.
No excuses.
"I was a bit excited because we won a cup" doesn't cut it.
This also includes slapping or grabbing bums in pubs and clubs, pushing your groin into people on packed Tubes or buses.
Both are sexual assault and will get you put on the sex offenders register. Neither are "Just a laugh". |
Spot on! | | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 12:43 - Aug 23 with 2896 views | leitrimblue |
I dont think it's that much of a stretch to say there is a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish ( and a few other countries) culture |  | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 15:09 - Aug 23 with 2783 views | Ryorry |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 12:43 - Aug 23 by leitrimblue |
I dont think it's that much of a stretch to say there is a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish ( and a few other countries) culture |
There's an extraordinarily telling lack of self-awareness in the first (in case there's more than one eventually, which I doubt) member's downvote to your post, given his username.
Quite possibly the most ironic thing I've ever seen on here in 25 years. | |
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| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 15:34 - Aug 23 with 2736 views | leitrimblue |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 15:09 - Aug 23 by Ryorry |
There's an extraordinarily telling lack of self-awareness in the first (in case there's more than one eventually, which I doubt) member's downvote to your post, given his username.
Quite possibly the most ironic thing I've ever seen on here in 25 years. |
 I did notice it a little while ago but had to run into a meeting. He also down voted the OP. I thought it might just be/hoped it was just someone taking the pee bit It's actually a genuine poster with very strong views on toxic masculinity. Perhaps not that surprising given the username... | | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 19:56 - Aug 23 with 2619 views | BigCommon |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 11:51 - Aug 23 by BarcaBlue |
Who cares? A lot of people here including the PM. The action was unacceptable and his apology was pathetic. It wasn't spur of the moment but the medal ceremony well after the match had finished, if that makes a difference. I really doubt he would have grabbed a male player's face and planted a kiss. |
You're speculating as to whether he'd have acted inappropriately towards a male player, had the men's team won the men's World Cup.
Tbf, couldn't give a hoot what Sunak thinks about anything. He's hardly a seal of approval, imo.
The fella kissed someone, he didn't murder them. And why didn't she stop him in the moment. ? I'm guessing she was just caught up in the moment, in much the same way he was... | | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 20:13 - Aug 23 with 2606 views | eireblue |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 19:56 - Aug 23 by BigCommon |
You're speculating as to whether he'd have acted inappropriately towards a male player, had the men's team won the men's World Cup.
Tbf, couldn't give a hoot what Sunak thinks about anything. He's hardly a seal of approval, imo.
The fella kissed someone, he didn't murder them. And why didn't she stop him in the moment. ? I'm guessing she was just caught up in the moment, in much the same way he was... |
“ You're speculating …..I’m guessing she…”
Spectacular. |  | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 20:28 - Aug 23 with 2586 views | BarcaBlue |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 20:13 - Aug 23 by eireblue |
“ You're speculating …..I’m guessing she…”
Spectacular. |
Brilliant! | | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 20:45 - Aug 23 with 2557 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 19:56 - Aug 23 by BigCommon |
You're speculating as to whether he'd have acted inappropriately towards a male player, had the men's team won the men's World Cup.
Tbf, couldn't give a hoot what Sunak thinks about anything. He's hardly a seal of approval, imo.
The fella kissed someone, he didn't murder them. And why didn't she stop him in the moment. ? I'm guessing she was just caught up in the moment, in much the same way he was... |
"Why didn't she stop him?"!!! |  |
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| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 20:49 - Aug 23 with 2540 views | BarcaBlue |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 19:56 - Aug 23 by BigCommon |
You're speculating as to whether he'd have acted inappropriately towards a male player, had the men's team won the men's World Cup.
Tbf, couldn't give a hoot what Sunak thinks about anything. He's hardly a seal of approval, imo.
The fella kissed someone, he didn't murder them. And why didn't she stop him in the moment. ? I'm guessing she was just caught up in the moment, in much the same way he was... |
I wasn't referring to Sunak but the Spanish PM who recently pushed through legislation known as "only yes means yes" law regarding sexual consent of any kind. The aim was in part in response to cases where the victim was accused of not resisting, screaming or whatever during an assault.
She was caught up by Rubiales' hands grasping her face and planting a kiss. | | | |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 20:54 - Aug 23 with 2524 views | Swansea_Blue |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 12:48 - Aug 21 by SE1blue |
I watched the trophy presentation with my wife and we were surprised at how ‘embracing’ he was considering everything that Spanish women’s football has gone through recently and how it could be perceived.
However, we did also comment on how quick and happy the players were to embrace him too, so this is one where a photo can suggest two different stories on social media dependent on what people want to suggest.
Live, it didn’t look like anything sinister at all. |
Comments from the pair of them since seem to suggest this is normal for them. Which leads to one obvious question: how can I become the Spanish FA president?  |  |
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| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 20:55 - Aug 23 with 2523 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| There seems to be a touch of toxic masculinity in Spanish Womans football on 19:56 - Aug 23 by BigCommon |
You're speculating as to whether he'd have acted inappropriately towards a male player, had the men's team won the men's World Cup.
Tbf, couldn't give a hoot what Sunak thinks about anything. He's hardly a seal of approval, imo.
The fella kissed someone, he didn't murder them. And why didn't she stop him in the moment. ? I'm guessing she was just caught up in the moment, in much the same way he was... |
Holy hell. You for real?! |  | | |
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