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Spring election incoming 13:26 - Nov 22 with 4945 viewsZx1988

2% cut in NI contributions being fast-tracked to take effect from January rather than April.

Combine that with small boat crossings having been lower during the winter months and it gives the Tories a good base to play to their core support.
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Spring election incoming on 16:32 - Nov 22 with 1225 viewsSikamikanico

Spring election incoming on 16:23 - Nov 22 by giant_stow

Thanks for the explanations. I had a feeling the VAT thing sounded too good to be true, but think I may have also explained the chap's idea badly. It was just a caller to the Ian Dale show (on Monday night if anyone else heard it) so maybe he was a plonker and me to gullible.


I'd hazard a guess they were suggesting a charge each quarter based on the quarterly "profit" shown on the VAT Return.

This would also be flawed as it wouldn't allow for accounting adjustments.

Until there is an international consensus on how to tax global entities it will be close to impossible to do anything about it.
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Spring election incoming on 16:45 - Nov 22 with 1200 viewsmatteoblue

On course for the highest tax burden since WW2. And people still think the Tories are right wing

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Spring election incoming on 17:02 - Nov 22 with 1166 viewsPinewoodblue

Spring election incoming on 15:13 - Nov 22 by bluelagos

Pensioners don't pay NI. So you'd be hitting them with an additional tax and that would cost a fair amount of votes.

So not going to happen.


No really a problem sadly too many pensioners don't have sufficient income to pay any tax at all.

Solution would be to increase the amount 'earned' before tax is paid for those over retirement age. In an ideal world the state pension wouldn't count towards income.

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Spring election incoming on 17:08 - Nov 22 with 1156 viewswkj

Spring election incoming on 16:45 - Nov 22 by matteoblue

On course for the highest tax burden since WW2. And people still think the Tories are right wing


There is such a thing as a stretch, but this is wider than the Kuiper Belt.

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Spring election incoming on 17:20 - Nov 22 with 1132 viewsbluelagos

Spring election incoming on 17:02 - Nov 22 by Pinewoodblue

No really a problem sadly too many pensioners don't have sufficient income to pay any tax at all.

Solution would be to increase the amount 'earned' before tax is paid for those over retirement age. In an ideal world the state pension wouldn't count towards income.


When you have a spare 40 mins, have a watch. Some really interesting stats in there - think you will surprised at the wealth and income of the average pensioner.

(Not to say many are not on the breadline - and those that are clearly need state help)


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Spring election incoming on 17:23 - Nov 22 with 1126 viewsElderGrizzly

Spring election incoming on 15:28 - Nov 22 by wkj

2% off NI yet people being dragged into a higher bracket. This is smoke and mirrors for the unwitting


Indeed

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Spring election incoming on 17:34 - Nov 22 with 1103 viewsDubtractor

Spring election incoming on 16:45 - Nov 22 by matteoblue

On course for the highest tax burden since WW2. And people still think the Tories are right wing


They are very right wing on social matters.

On financial matters they are mainly just incompetent, on an epic scale.

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Spring election incoming on 17:36 - Nov 22 with 1099 viewsDubtractor

Spring election incoming on 17:23 - Nov 22 by ElderGrizzly

Indeed

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Yeah, but Fraser Nelson is just a typical woke lefty so is only looking for the negatives.

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Spring election incoming on 17:41 - Nov 22 with 1082 viewsbenrhyddingblue

Spring election incoming on 13:59 - Nov 22 by ElderGrizzly

Reality doesn't matter. Watch the Mail, GB News etc spin this to be the best ever budget, helping the 'working class' etc.

It's nothing of the sort of course, but they rely on the majority of the voters to not understand that.

Slogans on buses win elections for this lot it appears from past experience


Thing is they don’t even need the majority of voters to jot understand.

This is so pathetic and desperate; all about an upcoming election rather than what is best for the UK economy, as is always the case.
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Spring election incoming on 17:48 - Nov 22 with 1046 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Spring election incoming on 16:45 - Nov 22 by matteoblue

On course for the highest tax burden since WW2. And people still think the Tories are right wing


Left wing would involve spending the money on services instead of corruption, though.

It's not just about raising taxation. It can be equally right wing to mismanage the economy and be corrupt.

What about this Government would you say is left wing aside from the large tax burden?

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Spring election incoming on 18:27 - Nov 22 with 996 viewsPinewoodblue

Spring election incoming on 17:20 - Nov 22 by bluelagos

When you have a spare 40 mins, have a watch. Some really interesting stats in there - think you will surprised at the wealth and income of the average pensioner.

(Not to say many are not on the breadline - and those that are clearly need state help)



Skipped a lot of it but looked at all stats, most of them are now well out of date but suspect the trends shown have accelerated last couple of years.

Yet the number of pensioners that benefit from pension credit is higher than ever. Despite the fact that in recent years the number of boomers taking advantage of Equity release has been rising faster. This takes people off pension credit once old enough to claim it..

The sooner we have a government determined to even things out the sooner the differences .between the top 10% of earners and the bottom 30% is going to stop widening

Combining NI and Income tax would be a start but deciding the threshold at which pensioners start paying more tax than currently is likely to put off change. Don't see things improving after the next election.
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