Am with Mark 09:38 - Nov 29 with 4270 views | bluelagos | Truth is - it was better before. We watched a game, we scored, we celebrated. And sometimes the refs made sh1t decisions. |  |
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Am with Mark on 13:37 - Nov 29 with 670 views | Exiled2Surrey | I also believed that technology would help, because as football is a sport that is a fairly late adopter of technology, it would be able to learn from the experiences of other sports. However, the record of the administrators is spectacularly bad, and you have to put it down to colossal arrogance. Think about what others are doing to improve their game and which could be applied to football: tennis / cricket - challenges on line calls - limit the number of times the tech is used cricket - umpires call - effectively only reversing the clear and obvious errors rugby - sin bins for specific foul play, and for lower grade repeat offences rather than offenders - no more "taking one for the team" - as well as for undermining the ref rugby - bunker for the review of yellows for possible upgrade to reds rugby - Head injury protocols The last one is so important and would be so easy to implement (allowing HIA subs) - there is absolutely no reason why they could not put this in place. Yet the only thing that they have introduced so far that has worked is goal line technology. I am afraid to say that the sport is rotting from its head |  | |  |
Am with Mark on 13:40 - Nov 29 with 657 views | Ryorry |
Am with Mark on 11:57 - Nov 29 by hoppy | Even decent ugly referees would be better. |
Some might even prefer women! |  |
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Am with Mark on 17:04 - Nov 29 with 581 views | BigCommon |
Am with Mark on 13:37 - Nov 29 by Exiled2Surrey | I also believed that technology would help, because as football is a sport that is a fairly late adopter of technology, it would be able to learn from the experiences of other sports. However, the record of the administrators is spectacularly bad, and you have to put it down to colossal arrogance. Think about what others are doing to improve their game and which could be applied to football: tennis / cricket - challenges on line calls - limit the number of times the tech is used cricket - umpires call - effectively only reversing the clear and obvious errors rugby - sin bins for specific foul play, and for lower grade repeat offences rather than offenders - no more "taking one for the team" - as well as for undermining the ref rugby - bunker for the review of yellows for possible upgrade to reds rugby - Head injury protocols The last one is so important and would be so easy to implement (allowing HIA subs) - there is absolutely no reason why they could not put this in place. Yet the only thing that they have introduced so far that has worked is goal line technology. I am afraid to say that the sport is rotting from its head |
Football doesn't need "improving" though... Why try to reinvent the wheel?.. Its the most followed sport world wide... I'd agree that some safety advancements have been made, head injuries, etc... B |  | |  |
Am with Mark on 17:17 - Nov 29 with 557 views | lowhouseblue | it turns out that subjective decisions are still subjective decisions but are no longer instant. i never had a great problem with refs making honest errors. players make errors all the time - none of it is a science, it's all part of the game |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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Am with Mark on 17:47 - Nov 29 with 539 views | Trequartista |
Am with Mark on 13:03 - Nov 29 by J2BLUE | We were told it was for clear and obvious errors. Now they analyse every single goal and take several minutes drawing lines. That is not what it was supposed to be for. Give the VAR team three replays and a max of 30 seconds. It's crap now after every goal waiting to see if it stands. |
There is a grey area where subjective decisions are arguable either way. By introducing "clear and obvious" we remove that grey area....and create another grey area further up the scale, where if a decision is "clear and obvious" is arguable either way. No-one seems to grasp that. |  |
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Am with Mark on 19:36 - Nov 29 with 496 views | charlie1 | I know it’s been said before, but I reckon the first step would be to let the game flow as it used to (keep goal-line technology which is instantaneous), trusting the training, experience and instinct of the officials, and give each captain 3 VAR challenges like in cricket. An offside which comes down to which player has thicker hair on their knee isn’t the clear and obvious error VAR was introduced to prevent. If it’s a clear error by the official you keep your review etc. but once you’ve burnt all three that’s it. Waiting to see whether you can celebrate a goal does my head in. |  | |  |
Am with Mark on 19:40 - Nov 29 with 490 views | Vic |
Am with Mark on 09:48 - Nov 29 by NthQldITFC | Best way to drive standards up for me would be to use VAR mainly retrospectively as a referee ranking tool. In the live game, just keep the fast, objective things like goal line / side line ball crossing and maybe the offside part but with a fuzzy line which favours the attacker. Anything subjective involving player intention or awareness interpretation or intricacies of body position can be assessed and debated (with accountable public explanation of decisions) after the event and can result in refs getting points added or taken away, which bumps them up and down a table and affects their selection for choice games. Nothing too confrontational like promotion or relegation from top flight appointments except in the case of extreme failures. The public aspect of this post game assessment should keep it relatively corruption-free. |
Agreed, but include checks for cheating, off the ball incidents, , etc, in the retrospective analysis. (That’s cheating by the players not the refs!) |  |
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