| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? 13:21 - Dec 8 with 9661 views | Illinoisblue |
Keep hearing Piers Morgan, Joey Barton, and many others talk about it. Must be a really important and powerful publication. |  |
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| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 19:03 - Dec 8 with 2075 views | MattinLondon |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 19:02 - Dec 8 by Whos_blue |
Mate, your last sentance is out of order.
By all means have it out with Badger, but that is too much. |
Fully agree with you - despicable last sentence. |  | | |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 19:05 - Dec 8 with 2064 views | noggin |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 17:48 - Dec 8 by BigCommon |
Not trying to be patriotic or rebellious.. Got no idea who the outlet are.. The story came up on my YT feed.. So I've not prejudged to story, just watched it....
It's fkn disgusting that a grown adult man is allowed to mix with adolescent girls in their underwear. Let alone compete against them.
That fact that you appear to be trying to play the story down, is very telling, imo. |
You haven't really thought this through, have you? |  |
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| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 19:10 - Dec 8 with 2039 views | Illinoisblue |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 16:39 - Dec 8 by BigCommon |
I watched it earlier.. Couple of hysterical lefty women screaming over everyone. The dark haired one just kept say me me me, I, I ,I..... I'm not a big fan of Joey Barton. But at least he had some decorum and stood up for his opinions without the need to act like a spoiled, screaming, school child. On principle, I agree with him, in that , any job role should be had on merit. Whether that be by a male or female.. People shouldn't be cancelled for having an opinion.
Like I said earlier, my newsfeed is very mixed, and that's the way I like it.. I've seen as many people backing Barton as I have condemning him.. |
Who’s been canceled for having an opinion? Seriously, when has that happened? Barton’s spewing forth on Twitter with zero restrictions and is launching a podcast. The idea he’s being silenced is laughable. | |
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| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 19:14 - Dec 8 with 2019 views | noggin |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 18:44 - Dec 8 by BigCommon |
With the kids parents present, on the beach you mean? And not behind closed doors in a female locker room or toilet or shower at a girls swim meet... Any self respecting sis male would be vary wary of mixing with half naked young girls. Because its indecent and they would feel uncomfortable. In the same way that they'd feel uncomfortable if a pervert man dressed in a women's swimming costume was trying to mix with their young daughter or niece or sister.....
Please don't tell me you work around young people and encourage this madness. I would have you no where near any children. |
You need to remove this post quickly. Unacceptable. | |
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| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 19:21 - Dec 8 with 1989 views | BigCommon |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 19:14 - Dec 8 by noggin |
You need to remove this post quickly. Unacceptable. |
On a par with BB's previous post, suggesting I'd drug a woman's drink... All's fair in love and war...
I don't need to do anything...
It's you that wants me to.... |  | | |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 19:37 - Dec 8 with 1944 views | MattinLondon |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 19:21 - Dec 8 by BigCommon |
On a par with BB's previous post, suggesting I'd drug a woman's drink... All's fair in love and war...
I don't need to do anything...
It's you that wants me to.... |
Didn’t see that post from BB which is also unacceptable (having gone through this thread properly).
It’s not love and war - it’s two grown men trying to make a point but both at times acting like tits. | | | |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 20:01 - Dec 8 with 1906 views | BigCommon |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 19:37 - Dec 8 by MattinLondon |
Didn’t see that post from BB which is also unacceptable (having gone through this thread properly).
It’s not love and war - it’s two grown men trying to make a point but both at times acting like tits. |
I agree, its gets silly. But when people chuck rocks at you for having a different stance to them then you're entitled to chuck a few back, imo. If that's the language they want to communicate in,
It seems on here that if you have a, less than left, view on life, you're a far right Nazi , and fare game for the rock throwers...
If you check the thread again, you'll see when the insults started.. And it wasn't from me. | | | |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 20:09 - Dec 8 with 1889 views | Mullet |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 19:01 - Dec 8 by BigCommon |
Pleasing to know that BB doesn't work in our education system. |
You'd be risking an investigation and possibly reported to the TRA if you were citing sources like this, or talking like this if you did. |  |
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| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 20:19 - Dec 8 with 1847 views | MattinLondon |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 20:01 - Dec 8 by BigCommon |
I agree, its gets silly. But when people chuck rocks at you for having a different stance to them then you're entitled to chuck a few back, imo. If that's the language they want to communicate in,
It seems on here that if you have a, less than left, view on life, you're a far right Nazi , and fare game for the rock throwers...
If you check the thread again, you'll see when the insults started.. And it wasn't from me. |
To be fair BB shouldn’t have responded to you in the way that he did.
Now your second paragraph regarding ‘It seems on here that if you have a, less than left, view on life, you're a far right Nazi , and fare game for the rock throwers...’. You posted a link to a far-right news site. It’s your responsibility to check the sources that you use to back up your argument. If you don’t want to be labelled as ‘far right’ don’t post ‘far right’ links. You understand?
And don’t play the innocent - just because you don’t like the way someone has replied it doesn’t give you carte blanche to insult as you please. | | | |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 21:34 - Dec 8 with 1770 views | BigCommon |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 20:19 - Dec 8 by MattinLondon |
To be fair BB shouldn’t have responded to you in the way that he did.
Now your second paragraph regarding ‘It seems on here that if you have a, less than left, view on life, you're a far right Nazi , and fare game for the rock throwers...’. You posted a link to a far-right news site. It’s your responsibility to check the sources that you use to back up your argument. If you don’t want to be labelled as ‘far right’ don’t post ‘far right’ links. You understand?
And don’t play the innocent - just because you don’t like the way someone has replied it doesn’t give you carte blanche to insult as you please. |
That's fare enough. I can honestly say that I'd never heard or know about that news source... Does it change the subject matter, or facts of the story, though? Are you saying its a made up false news piece? Honest question.
Couldn't care less how people reply. They are entitled to a view. But don't be surprised if I mirror their level in response.. It's a reflex in self preservation, and only natural.
If people are easily insulted, when treated in the same way, as they treat others Then maybe they should stop jumping on threads and posting multiple digs at other posters, expecting them to just lie down. | | | |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 21:53 - Dec 8 with 1743 views | MattinLondon |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 21:34 - Dec 8 by BigCommon |
That's fare enough. I can honestly say that I'd never heard or know about that news source... Does it change the subject matter, or facts of the story, though? Are you saying its a made up false news piece? Honest question.
Couldn't care less how people reply. They are entitled to a view. But don't be surprised if I mirror their level in response.. It's a reflex in self preservation, and only natural.
If people are easily insulted, when treated in the same way, as they treat others Then maybe they should stop jumping on threads and posting multiple digs at other posters, expecting them to just lie down. |
I did google the name of the older swimmer but the news sources that carried the story all seemed of similar taste. There could well be a more neutral take on it - maybe even a fair explanation - I don’t know.
I’m afraid that the news source does matter as the language will carry the purpose of each individual story. Keeping it on context - Rebel News take on this story will be wholly negative. It doesn’t believe in transgender issues. For example instead of reverting to the swimmer by her preferred female name they use the phrase ‘that he uses the alias Melody….’
Balance is important. I know that many including myself post Guardian links but I don’t think that it is blindly supportive of all things left. It has criticised Labour in the past.
Hope that answers your question. | | | |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 22:43 - Dec 8 with 1663 views | eireblue |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 21:34 - Dec 8 by BigCommon |
That's fare enough. I can honestly say that I'd never heard or know about that news source... Does it change the subject matter, or facts of the story, though? Are you saying its a made up false news piece? Honest question.
Couldn't care less how people reply. They are entitled to a view. But don't be surprised if I mirror their level in response.. It's a reflex in self preservation, and only natural.
If people are easily insulted, when treated in the same way, as they treat others Then maybe they should stop jumping on threads and posting multiple digs at other posters, expecting them to just lie down. |
“It's a reflex in self preservation, and only natural.”
Yea, you see reflex actions, or protective responses for self preservation in humans don’t really use the brain.
So I would suggest taking a deep breath, maybe talking a short walk, letting the adrenaline work it’s way out of the system, then you can engage all your mental facilities and debate like a good’un. |  | | |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 23:40 - Dec 8 with 1626 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 17:06 - Dec 8 by BigCommon |
Yeah, I thought his original tweet was very poorly worded... But having listened to him explain what he meant, and actually commending some female broadcasters. I can understand his view, without trying to cancel him...
I'm quite pleased that there are voices on both sides of the argument. |
Who's 'cancelling' him? He's not in a job, so he's not been sacked for his comments. He's actually been given a platform off the back of his sexist views by Talk TV (as linked earlier in the thread).
There aren't two sides of an argument with regard to sexism. It's not acceptable in the 21st Century (it wasn't in the late 20th Century either, but it's taken some people a while to catch up and some still need to). |  |
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| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 23:49 - Dec 8 with 1620 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 17:12 - Dec 8 by lowhouseblue |
not yourself being a prick to those groups is definitely great. setting yourself up as the judge and jury to police other people's views and opinions is less great. claiming to be the sole authority on moral matters and getting arsey when others disagree is even less great. there you go, the whole woke debate summarised in 3 sentences. [Post edited 8 Dec 2023 17:13]
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It's perfectly fine to be a prick towards those sorts of people.
If anyone descriminates against women beacuse they are women,
or non-white people becasuse they are non-white,
or foreigners becasuse they are foreign,
or poor people because they are poor,
or the LGBTQ community because they are LGBTQ,
they deserve to be shamed. It means they are either sexist/mysogonistic, racist, xeonophbic, a snob or homophobic. Morally, theyre's nothing to argue over. None of those things are good and most are illegal in one way or another. | |
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| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 23:51 - Dec 8 with 1615 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 21:34 - Dec 8 by BigCommon |
That's fare enough. I can honestly say that I'd never heard or know about that news source... Does it change the subject matter, or facts of the story, though? Are you saying its a made up false news piece? Honest question.
Couldn't care less how people reply. They are entitled to a view. But don't be surprised if I mirror their level in response.. It's a reflex in self preservation, and only natural.
If people are easily insulted, when treated in the same way, as they treat others Then maybe they should stop jumping on threads and posting multiple digs at other posters, expecting them to just lie down. |
I think you need to ask whether they are actually news sources or propoaganda opinion pieces, and then take it from there (the swimming piece was a load of propaganda as they hadn't attempted tofind out how that environment worked). | |
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| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 01:24 - Dec 9 with 1572 views | Zapers |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 17:12 - Dec 8 by lowhouseblue |
not yourself being a prick to those groups is definitely great. setting yourself up as the judge and jury to police other people's views and opinions is less great. claiming to be the sole authority on moral matters and getting arsey when others disagree is even less great. there you go, the whole woke debate summarised in 3 sentences. [Post edited 8 Dec 2023 17:13]
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This is why i call this poster a bully.
Nobody is allowed an alternative view with out a torrent of hate, abuse and accusations. |  | | |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 08:13 - Dec 9 with 1433 views | BarcaBlue |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 01:24 - Dec 9 by Zapers |
This is why i call this poster a bully.
Nobody is allowed an alternative view with out a torrent of hate, abuse and accusations. |
If people didn't air their misogynistic, racist or homphobic views on here there wouldn't be the need for abuse. There isn't an acceptable alternative view. |  | | |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 08:30 - Dec 9 with 1418 views | Zapers |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 08:13 - Dec 9 by BarcaBlue |
If people didn't air their misogynistic, racist or homphobic views on here there wouldn't be the need for abuse. There isn't an acceptable alternative view. |
This is why the site is administered, to stop this sort of posting you refer to.
However this is not the point. people should be allowed to post things without being labelled racist, Nazis bigots etc.
We all have opinions, many i disagree with, but hey ho, that's life. | | | |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 08:39 - Dec 9 with 1407 views | MattinLondon |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 08:30 - Dec 9 by Zapers |
This is why the site is administered, to stop this sort of posting you refer to.
However this is not the point. people should be allowed to post things without being labelled racist, Nazis bigots etc.
We all have opinions, many i disagree with, but hey ho, that's life. |
If people post links to far-right websites then don’t be surprised if that person is labelled as far-right. It’s that simple.
And people are allowed different views it’s ridiculous and pathetic to suggest that this is not the case. | | | |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 08:55 - Dec 9 with 1387 views | Zapers |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 08:39 - Dec 9 by MattinLondon |
If people post links to far-right websites then don’t be surprised if that person is labelled as far-right. It’s that simple.
And people are allowed different views it’s ridiculous and pathetic to suggest that this is not the case. |
But it's not that simple. I'm sure most people will never get upset by being classed as far right, or far left.
But it doesn't end there, very often it's followed up by unacceptable abuse.
Not so sure about your last sentence. | | | |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 09:30 - Dec 9 with 1360 views | lowhouseblue |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 23:49 - Dec 8 by Swansea_Blue |
It's perfectly fine to be a prick towards those sorts of people.
If anyone descriminates against women beacuse they are women,
or non-white people becasuse they are non-white,
or foreigners becasuse they are foreign,
or poor people because they are poor,
or the LGBTQ community because they are LGBTQ,
they deserve to be shamed. It means they are either sexist/mysogonistic, racist, xeonophbic, a snob or homophobic. Morally, theyre's nothing to argue over. None of those things are good and most are illegal in one way or another. |
we have laws about most of those things. the problem is when people draw the line about what's acceptable in some different and arbitrary place and then go round enforcing their own subjective moral views on others in order to prove their own moral superiority. shaming people because you've invented or signed up to some entirely subjective definition of transgression really isn't very nice. you should really leave that sort of behaviour to religious loons and state censors in repressive dictatorships. |  |
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| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 09:40 - Dec 9 with 1328 views | Whos_blue |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 09:30 - Dec 9 by lowhouseblue |
we have laws about most of those things. the problem is when people draw the line about what's acceptable in some different and arbitrary place and then go round enforcing their own subjective moral views on others in order to prove their own moral superiority. shaming people because you've invented or signed up to some entirely subjective definition of transgression really isn't very nice. you should really leave that sort of behaviour to religious loons and state censors in repressive dictatorships. |
I see the point you're trying to make here, but everyone has a line. Yourself included. We all react differently.
How do you generally respond when yours is crossed? |  |
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| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 09:50 - Dec 9 with 1307 views | lowhouseblue |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 09:40 - Dec 9 by Whos_blue |
I see the point you're trying to make here, but everyone has a line. Yourself included. We all react differently.
How do you generally respond when yours is crossed? |
doubtless badly, alas. but i've been repeatedly called a 'transphobe' by a former poster because i said that transwomen serving sentences for crimes against women shouldn't be in women's prisons. people have been called racists or xenophobes if they argue for something short of open borders. both examples may well be quite extreme, but they illustrate someone drawing the line of what's acceptable in a very silly place. but more generally if we want civilised debate then a key to it is accepting that holding different views to you doesn't make someone a bad person and doesn't justify judgemental name calling or labelling. being judgemental really isn't a great trait. you should at least have to train as a priest before doing so. [Post edited 9 Dec 2023 9:51]
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| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 09:58 - Dec 9 with 1282 views | DJR |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 09:50 - Dec 9 by lowhouseblue |
doubtless badly, alas. but i've been repeatedly called a 'transphobe' by a former poster because i said that transwomen serving sentences for crimes against women shouldn't be in women's prisons. people have been called racists or xenophobes if they argue for something short of open borders. both examples may well be quite extreme, but they illustrate someone drawing the line of what's acceptable in a very silly place. but more generally if we want civilised debate then a key to it is accepting that holding different views to you doesn't make someone a bad person and doesn't justify judgemental name calling or labelling. being judgemental really isn't a great trait. you should at least have to train as a priest before doing so. [Post edited 9 Dec 2023 9:51]
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I would whole-heartedly agree with that.
You and I may well disagree on many things, but that is no reason for personal abuse or being judgmental. [Post edited 9 Dec 2023 10:34]
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| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 10:09 - Dec 9 with 1259 views | Whos_blue |
| Where can one buy a copy of The Woke Agenda? on 09:50 - Dec 9 by lowhouseblue |
doubtless badly, alas. but i've been repeatedly called a 'transphobe' by a former poster because i said that transwomen serving sentences for crimes against women shouldn't be in women's prisons. people have been called racists or xenophobes if they argue for something short of open borders. both examples may well be quite extreme, but they illustrate someone drawing the line of what's acceptable in a very silly place. but more generally if we want civilised debate then a key to it is accepting that holding different views to you doesn't make someone a bad person and doesn't justify judgemental name calling or labelling. being judgemental really isn't a great trait. you should at least have to train as a priest before doing so. [Post edited 9 Dec 2023 9:51]
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Yes, but you have to call out bobbins when you see it.
Whilst I would expect us to have a mature conversation about the merits of Clarke or Williams at RB, if you or I chose to post a generally unpleasant opinion, I think we might expect to be called out on it.
As a dyed in the wool lefty bumfester, I'll always be triggered by something from the far right (in truth it doesn't really have to be that far!) But have often read with interest posts from some of our sensible right leaning posters as it helps to either enforce my view or maybe consider an alternative. It's the provocative bellends that post bobbins that do my head in the most. [Post edited 9 Dec 2023 10:11]
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