| Leeds win again.. 14:52 - Dec 9 with 4191 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
Today’s a must win again. It’s going to be tough to maintain our spot with the two Premier League payoff teams breathing down our necks. It’s incredible that we’re where we are. |  | | |  |
| Leeds win again.. on 14:56 - Dec 9 with 3213 views | Dubtractor |
Today isn't a must win, and it doesn't help anyone to suggest that it is. |  |
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| Leeds win again.. on 14:57 - Dec 9 with 3209 views | blueprint |
Why is it a must win? Win , lose or draw our season will not be defined by one game. The fact we are where we are 1 week into December is truly amazing. |  | | |
| Leeds win again.. on 14:59 - Dec 9 with 3191 views | Herbivore |
| Leeds win again.. on 14:56 - Dec 9 by Dubtractor |
Today isn't a must win, and it doesn't help anyone to suggest that it is. |
Agreed. We're 4 points clear of third with a game in hand and over half a season to play. Objectively, this is one of the toughest fixtures we have left to play. The idea we have to win today is nuts and not remotely helpful. A point today is a very good result, imo. |  |
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| Leeds win again.. on 15:00 - Dec 9 with 3185 views | orfordbuoy |
| Leeds win again.. on 14:56 - Dec 9 by Dubtractor |
Today isn't a must win, and it doesn't help anyone to suggest that it is. |
normally I'd agree, but with Watford, Norwich, Leeds and Leicester coming up - where are the points going to come from? |  | | |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:00 - Dec 9 with 3182 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| Leeds win again.. on 14:57 - Dec 9 by blueprint |
Why is it a must win? Win , lose or draw our season will not be defined by one game. The fact we are where we are 1 week into December is truly amazing. |
It is for me, I don’t see Southampton or Leeds dropping any points coming up, same with Leicester, I think that if we don’t win today they’ll have the confidence to overtake us and I’m expecting Leeds and Leicester for the automatic positions. We’ve got a hard run of games coming up also. | | | |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:02 - Dec 9 with 3153 views | homer_123 |
Nah. Win would be great but happily take a draw. |  |
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| Leeds win again.. on 15:03 - Dec 9 with 3147 views | Herbivore |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:00 - Dec 9 by orfordbuoy |
normally I'd agree, but with Watford, Norwich, Leeds and Leicester coming up - where are the points going to come from? |
Why are you including Norwich in that? We'll rightly be heavy favourites to win that game. Watford is probably 50/50, Leicester at home is very winnable and we're capable of giving Leeds a tough test. We shouldn't fear any game but it's also not helpful to heap unnecessary pressure on games like today. | |
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| Leeds win again.. on 15:03 - Dec 9 with 3146 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:00 - Dec 9 by orfordbuoy |
normally I'd agree, but with Watford, Norwich, Leeds and Leicester coming up - where are the points going to come from? |
We should be alright against Watford, Norwich will be tough as derby games are always a different kettle of fish to the regular league games, Leeds and Leicester will be very hard games and could be defining points of the season. | | | |
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| Leeds win again.. on 15:04 - Dec 9 with 3135 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:00 - Dec 9 by orfordbuoy |
normally I'd agree, but with Watford, Norwich, Leeds and Leicester coming up - where are the points going to come from? |
Probably the 27 matches we have left, including those 4. Do you expect us to lose all 4 of them? Why? It isn't going to happen, but if we lost all 4, drew today and Leeds continued their form from their last 4, we would be 6 points behind them with 21 matches (nearly half the season) left. |  |
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| Leeds win again.. on 15:09 - Dec 9 with 3104 views | Vic |
A win would be good, but by no means is it a must win game. They don’t happen until Easter time |  |
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| Leeds win again.. on 15:10 - Dec 9 with 3097 views | orfordbuoy |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:03 - Dec 9 by Herbivore |
Why are you including Norwich in that? We'll rightly be heavy favourites to win that game. Watford is probably 50/50, Leicester at home is very winnable and we're capable of giving Leeds a tough test. We shouldn't fear any game but it's also not helpful to heap unnecessary pressure on games like today. |
'but it's also not helpful to heap unnecessary pressure on games like today.'
do you honestly think anyone at the club reads these posts and reacts to them? | | | |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:12 - Dec 9 with 3079 views | Herbivore |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:10 - Dec 9 by orfordbuoy |
'but it's also not helpful to heap unnecessary pressure on games like today.'
do you honestly think anyone at the club reads these posts and reacts to them? |
That's a weak excuse for being a fanny, mate. If a fanny flounces on TWTD and there's nobody there to see it, does it still sound like a fanny? | |
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| Leeds win again.. on 15:15 - Dec 9 with 3045 views | orfordbuoy |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:12 - Dec 9 by Herbivore |
That's a weak excuse for being a fanny, mate. If a fanny flounces on TWTD and there's nobody there to see it, does it still sound like a fanny? |
you are a very strange lad/ladette | | | |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:16 - Dec 9 with 3033 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:00 - Dec 9 by ChampionsofInnsbruck |
It is for me, I don’t see Southampton or Leeds dropping any points coming up, same with Leicester, I think that if we don’t win today they’ll have the confidence to overtake us and I’m expecting Leeds and Leicester for the automatic positions. We’ve got a hard run of games coming up also. |
To be fair, as you can't see those three teams dropping any points, we may as well give up and be thankful we didn't get relegated (which you also expected to happen didn't you?) | |
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| Leeds win again.. on 15:17 - Dec 9 with 3023 views | Herbivore |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:15 - Dec 9 by orfordbuoy |
you are a very strange lad/ladette |
Thank you. | |
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| Leeds win again.. on 15:19 - Dec 9 with 2987 views | Ryorry |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:00 - Dec 9 by ChampionsofInnsbruck |
It is for me, I don’t see Southampton or Leeds dropping any points coming up, same with Leicester, I think that if we don’t win today they’ll have the confidence to overtake us and I’m expecting Leeds and Leicester for the automatic positions. We’ve got a hard run of games coming up also. |
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| Leeds win again.. on 15:33 - Dec 9 with 2839 views | WinchBlue |
Town should be nowhere near 2nd place and it’s huge credit to Kieron and the whole set-up that they are. The financial clout of the teams relegated from the prem means that they should be huge favourites for promotion which is why they are 1,3 & 4. I am delighted that we are at the right end of the table. I won’t be upset or surprised if we drop down a few places over the next couple of months. If we can hold our position until the end of march I might start getting excited. |  | | |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:46 - Dec 9 with 2749 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:33 - Dec 9 by WinchBlue |
Town should be nowhere near 2nd place and it’s huge credit to Kieron and the whole set-up that they are. The financial clout of the teams relegated from the prem means that they should be huge favourites for promotion which is why they are 1,3 & 4. I am delighted that we are at the right end of the table. I won’t be upset or surprised if we drop down a few places over the next couple of months. If we can hold our position until the end of march I might start getting excited. |
Although, I do get your point, how many seasons since the Premier League began have seen all three relegated sides go straight back up? In fact, I wonder how many have seen even 2 out of 3.
EDIT: Just looked this up and got:
All 3: never
2 out of 3: 6 times (93-4, 97-8, 06-07, 09-10, 15-16, 20-21)
1 of 3: 14 times (95-6, 96-7, 99-00, 01-02, 02-03, 03-04, 08-09, 11-12, 13-14, 14-15, 16-17, 19-20, 21-22, 22-23)
None: 10 times (94-5, 98-9, 00-01, 04-05, 05-06, 07-08, 10-11, 12-13, 17-18, 18-19).
In other words, 20% of the time 2 out of 3 have bounced straight back up. 80% of the time no more than 1 has bounced straight back up. Never have all 3 done so. [Post edited 9 Dec 2023 16:14]
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| Leeds win again.. on 15:57 - Dec 9 with 2649 views | WinchBlue |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:46 - Dec 9 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Although, I do get your point, how many seasons since the Premier League began have seen all three relegated sides go straight back up? In fact, I wonder how many have seen even 2 out of 3.
EDIT: Just looked this up and got:
All 3: never
2 out of 3: 6 times (93-4, 97-8, 06-07, 09-10, 15-16, 20-21)
1 of 3: 14 times (95-6, 96-7, 99-00, 01-02, 02-03, 03-04, 08-09, 11-12, 13-14, 14-15, 16-17, 19-20, 21-22, 22-23)
None: 10 times (94-5, 98-9, 00-01, 04-05, 05-06, 07-08, 10-11, 12-13, 17-18, 18-19).
In other words, 20% of the time 2 out of 3 have bounced straight back up. 80% of the time no more than 1 has bounced straight back up. Never have all 3 done so. [Post edited 9 Dec 2023 16:14]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_seasons
Last 10 seasons, usually 1, sometimes 2 but never 3 I think. | | | |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:59 - Dec 9 with 2622 views | WinchBlue |
Very rare for a promoted team to then get promoted again into the prem. | | | |
| Budgies and Saints in recent(ish) memory on 16:02 - Dec 9 with 2585 views | Dyland |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:59 - Dec 9 by WinchBlue |
Very rare for a promoted team to then get promoted again into the prem. |
It would be just our luck to have a storming season when none of the three relegated Prem clubs fook it up. |  |
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| Leeds win again.. on 16:02 - Dec 9 with 2583 views | Herbivore |
| Leeds win again.. on 15:59 - Dec 9 by WinchBlue |
Very rare for a promoted team to then get promoted again into the prem. |
Nodge and Saints did it not too far apart from each other but nobody since then and it's certainly fairly uncommon. Not many sides come up from League 1 as strongly as we did though. | |
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| Leeds win again.. on 16:23 - Dec 9 with 2484 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Leeds win again.. on 16:02 - Dec 9 by Herbivore |
Nodge and Saints did it not too far apart from each other but nobody since then and it's certainly fairly uncommon. Not many sides come up from League 1 as strongly as we did though. |
Plymouth did!
Nodge and Southampton were consecutive seasons in 2010-11 and 11-12. Man City did it 99-00.
EDIT: Which is 3 in the last 24 seasons or 1 in 8 on average. [Post edited 9 Dec 2023 16:26]
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| Leeds win again.. on 16:25 - Dec 9 with 2463 views | Stewart27 |
If our 7 point cushion means our wins are must win, then what the hell are the games for the chasing pack? |  | | |
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