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George Hirst 10:11 - Dec 15 with 10698 views_clive_baker_

Has had his Rolex robbed last night from near Witnesham.

Some right scumbags about.
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George Hirst on 14:07 - Dec 15 with 1290 viewsStokieBlue

George Hirst on 13:15 - Dec 15 by The_Flashing_Smile

No slight on Hirst or anyone in this thread, but I've never understood the appeal of expensive watches. It's like walking around with hundreds, sometimes thousands, of pounds just sat there on display. Given that all our phones have the time on them, watches aren't even particularly practical anymore either. They just seem to be an item of jewellery/a status symbol these days.

None of this justifies the theft of anything. As you say, absolute scumbags.


"It's like walking around with hundreds, sometimes thousands, of pounds just sat there on display."

A new phone is worth more than a grand in many cases but people don't think twice about walking around with them. You've just said you'd use it instead of a watch.

Disagree about watches not being practical, far easier and more natural to look at your watch than get your phone out. They can look good as well without having to be insanely expensive.

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George Hirst on 14:08 - Dec 15 with 1277 viewsitfcjoe

George Hirst on 14:03 - Dec 15 by GlasgowBlue

My mate had his watch stolen by a hooker in Krakow a few years ago. He didn't even notice hert taking it off his wrist when she stopped him in the street and started putting her arms all over him.

That was a hard one to explain to his wife.


When we were in Marbella a number of years back, a prostitute managed to get my mates wallet out of his pocket, rob all his cash, and then get the wallet back in his pocket...!

Didn't notice until we got to the next bar which was obviously way too late

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George Hirst on 14:09 - Dec 15 with 1247 viewsGlasgowBlue

George Hirst on 13:15 - Dec 15 by The_Flashing_Smile

No slight on Hirst or anyone in this thread, but I've never understood the appeal of expensive watches. It's like walking around with hundreds, sometimes thousands, of pounds just sat there on display. Given that all our phones have the time on them, watches aren't even particularly practical anymore either. They just seem to be an item of jewellery/a status symbol these days.

None of this justifies the theft of anything. As you say, absolute scumbags.


Well they look nice for starters. And as you say, are an attractive piece of jewelry. But they are a fantastic investment. I bought his and hers for myself and the wife when our boy was born in 2000. They have more than doubled in price. During lockdown we could have sold them for silly money as the waiting list for some models was two years.

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George Hirst on 14:21 - Dec 15 with 1223 viewshype313

George Hirst on 14:09 - Dec 15 by GlasgowBlue

Well they look nice for starters. And as you say, are an attractive piece of jewelry. But they are a fantastic investment. I bought his and hers for myself and the wife when our boy was born in 2000. They have more than doubled in price. During lockdown we could have sold them for silly money as the waiting list for some models was two years.


They are an investment, and generally with Rolex's as soon as you walk out the store they go up in value, which is remarkable.

As the are an Investment, I would've thought you keep in in a safe box with receipts, and just wear a lesser brand day to day.

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George Hirst on 14:21 - Dec 15 with 1223 views_clive_baker_

George Hirst on 14:08 - Dec 15 by itfcjoe

When we were in Marbella a number of years back, a prostitute managed to get my mates wallet out of his pocket, rob all his cash, and then get the wallet back in his pocket...!

Didn't notice until we got to the next bar which was obviously way too late


That old chestnut



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George Hirst on 14:24 - Dec 15 with 1196 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

George Hirst on 13:18 - Dec 15 by itfcjoe

Something like a Rolex is basically an investment though - the price appreciates rather than depreciates


You say that, but did you buy it as in investment... or to show off the fact you have a Rolex?! Surely if it's the former you wouldn't wear it at all?

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George Hirst on 14:27 - Dec 15 with 1176 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

George Hirst on 13:30 - Dec 15 by _clive_baker_

I don't have a Rolex myself, but I do really like watches. Certainly not for their ability to tell me the time (although I do refer to it for that) but more of an accessory / jewelery rather than status. Guess it's no different to wearing rings or necklaces etc, a nice watch does look smart IMO. Each to their own though.


I don't actually wear any jewellery. Rings, especially, I just don't like the feel of them. I might just be odd though.

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George Hirst on 14:32 - Dec 15 with 1150 viewsMaySixth

George Hirst on 12:03 - Dec 15 by _clive_baker_

I think it's prudent in certain situations tbh. I lived in London for a long time and there were times I would be a bit selective about certain things. My wife and many of her friends still twist their engagement rings around on the tube etc at night time.


LOL

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George Hirst on 14:33 - Dec 15 with 1139 viewsGlasgowBlue

George Hirst on 14:08 - Dec 15 by itfcjoe

When we were in Marbella a number of years back, a prostitute managed to get my mates wallet out of his pocket, rob all his cash, and then get the wallet back in his pocket...!

Didn't notice until we got to the next bar which was obviously way too late


These girls have great wrist action.

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George Hirst on 14:35 - Dec 15 with 1131 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

George Hirst on 14:07 - Dec 15 by StokieBlue

"It's like walking around with hundreds, sometimes thousands, of pounds just sat there on display."

A new phone is worth more than a grand in many cases but people don't think twice about walking around with them. You've just said you'd use it instead of a watch.

Disagree about watches not being practical, far easier and more natural to look at your watch than get your phone out. They can look good as well without having to be insanely expensive.

SB


Blimey, what phone do you have?! I have a Google Pixel for £30 a month. I don't know anyone who has a phone worth more than a grand, as far as I know. So sorry, no, you can't equate the two.

Also a phone does EVERYTHING. A watch does one thing.

I would also dispute it's "far easier and more natural to look at your watch than get your phone out." I get my phone out regularly, to check notifications, emails etc. - far more than I would look for the time. So as I do that regularly I know what the time is anyway. I suspect most people are like this.

EDIT: Also, a phone isn't constantly on display like a watch is.

Sounds to me that you just like having a flashy watch on your arm and are looking for excuses to justify it.
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George Hirst on 14:40 - Dec 15 with 1103 viewsGlasgowBlue

George Hirst on 14:24 - Dec 15 by The_Flashing_Smile

You say that, but did you buy it as in investment... or to show off the fact you have a Rolex?! Surely if it's the former you wouldn't wear it at all?


It's not to show off though. If you buy a suit, no pun intended, then you buy the best suit that you can afford at the time. Same with cars, TV's, handbags and pretty much most things.

That it is an investment is a happy bi product.

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George Hirst on 14:42 - Dec 15 with 1099 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

George Hirst on 14:35 - Dec 15 by The_Flashing_Smile

Blimey, what phone do you have?! I have a Google Pixel for £30 a month. I don't know anyone who has a phone worth more than a grand, as far as I know. So sorry, no, you can't equate the two.

Also a phone does EVERYTHING. A watch does one thing.

I would also dispute it's "far easier and more natural to look at your watch than get your phone out." I get my phone out regularly, to check notifications, emails etc. - far more than I would look for the time. So as I do that regularly I know what the time is anyway. I suspect most people are like this.

EDIT: Also, a phone isn't constantly on display like a watch is.

Sounds to me that you just like having a flashy watch on your arm and are looking for excuses to justify it.
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That’s a little judgmental isn’t it, some people save for years to have a nice watch. Nobody bats an eyelid when Charlie boy wafts around in jewels stolen from other countries. Nothing nice for the plebs eh…

I suspect that’s why footballers get a lot of hate for having flashy stuff. How dare the working class do well for themselves without going to public school and playing golf with the right people.
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George Hirst on 14:43 - Dec 15 with 1094 viewsGlasgowBlue

George Hirst on 14:35 - Dec 15 by The_Flashing_Smile

Blimey, what phone do you have?! I have a Google Pixel for £30 a month. I don't know anyone who has a phone worth more than a grand, as far as I know. So sorry, no, you can't equate the two.

Also a phone does EVERYTHING. A watch does one thing.

I would also dispute it's "far easier and more natural to look at your watch than get your phone out." I get my phone out regularly, to check notifications, emails etc. - far more than I would look for the time. So as I do that regularly I know what the time is anyway. I suspect most people are like this.

EDIT: Also, a phone isn't constantly on display like a watch is.

Sounds to me that you just like having a flashy watch on your arm and are looking for excuses to justify it.
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Latest iphone is about twelve hundred quid isn't it?

Edit. £30 a month on a 3 year contract works out at just ver a grand.
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George Hirst on 14:46 - Dec 15 with 1076 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

George Hirst on 14:40 - Dec 15 by GlasgowBlue

It's not to show off though. If you buy a suit, no pun intended, then you buy the best suit that you can afford at the time. Same with cars, TV's, handbags and pretty much most things.

That it is an investment is a happy bi product.


But most things you don't wear on your arm! And those things you mention have lots of practical uses - the watch has one, which is now redundant anyway as we all have phones with the time on.

Just admit you're a flash Harry who wants to show off his wealth to everyone, it's ok!

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George Hirst on 14:47 - Dec 15 with 1067 viewstractorboy1978

George Hirst on 14:40 - Dec 15 by GlasgowBlue

It's not to show off though. If you buy a suit, no pun intended, then you buy the best suit that you can afford at the time. Same with cars, TV's, handbags and pretty much most things.

That it is an investment is a happy bi product.


A Rolex at £5k-£10k is a far better buy than a 'decent' watch that costs you a few hundred quid as well - providing you can afford one of course. You can easily spend decent money on a watch that rapidly depreciates in value or never really has any value, whereas a Rolex is an appreciating asset!
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George Hirst on 14:49 - Dec 15 with 1051 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

George Hirst on 14:42 - Dec 15 by SuperKieranMcKenna

That’s a little judgmental isn’t it, some people save for years to have a nice watch. Nobody bats an eyelid when Charlie boy wafts around in jewels stolen from other countries. Nothing nice for the plebs eh…

I suspect that’s why footballers get a lot of hate for having flashy stuff. How dare the working class do well for themselves without going to public school and playing golf with the right people.


Wow, bit of a leap there. Loads of people "bat an eyelid" at royal wealth, including myself! And nowhere have I remotely suggested the working class shouldn't do well for themselves. Sounds like I've hit a nerve.

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George Hirst on 14:51 - Dec 15 with 1035 viewsStokieBlue

George Hirst on 14:35 - Dec 15 by The_Flashing_Smile

Blimey, what phone do you have?! I have a Google Pixel for £30 a month. I don't know anyone who has a phone worth more than a grand, as far as I know. So sorry, no, you can't equate the two.

Also a phone does EVERYTHING. A watch does one thing.

I would also dispute it's "far easier and more natural to look at your watch than get your phone out." I get my phone out regularly, to check notifications, emails etc. - far more than I would look for the time. So as I do that regularly I know what the time is anyway. I suspect most people are like this.

EDIT: Also, a phone isn't constantly on display like a watch is.

Sounds to me that you just like having a flashy watch on your arm and are looking for excuses to justify it.
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"Blimey, what phone do you have?! I have a Google Pixel for £30 a month. I don't know anyone who has a phone worth more than a grand, as far as I know. So sorry, no, you can't equate the two."

A Google Pixel 8 Pro is just under 1000 GBP to buy new and it's not a flagship phone. Just because you pay for it monthly it doesn't mean the phone isn't an expensive item. By this logic you'd be fine wearing a 1000 GBP watch if you paid for it monthly.

"I would also dispute it's "far easier and more natural to look at your watch than get your phone out." I get my phone out regularly, to check notifications, emails etc. - far more than I would look for the time. So as I do that regularly I know what the time is anyway. I suspect most people are like this."

An entirely subjective response (although it could be argued my example was subjective). Each to their own I guess, not sure it's good form to be continually checking ones phone when out and about with people.

I don't have a flashy watch, I have a collection of vintage 1970's automatic Seiko's which aren't totally cheap but also aren't a Rolex. Even if I did have a flashy watch why would I need an excuse to justify it? It's not up to you what people wear and if they want to wear one then no justification is needed.

You seem to be telling people they shouldn't wear watches which is a very odd thing to do.

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George Hirst on 14:52 - Dec 15 with 1030 viewsSamWhiteUK

George Hirst on 14:35 - Dec 15 by The_Flashing_Smile

Blimey, what phone do you have?! I have a Google Pixel for £30 a month. I don't know anyone who has a phone worth more than a grand, as far as I know. So sorry, no, you can't equate the two.

Also a phone does EVERYTHING. A watch does one thing.

I would also dispute it's "far easier and more natural to look at your watch than get your phone out." I get my phone out regularly, to check notifications, emails etc. - far more than I would look for the time. So as I do that regularly I know what the time is anyway. I suspect most people are like this.

EDIT: Also, a phone isn't constantly on display like a watch is.

Sounds to me that you just like having a flashy watch on your arm and are looking for excuses to justify it.
[Post edited 15 Dec 2023 14:37]


"I don't know anyone who has a phone worth more than a grand"

Yes, you most definitely do.

"A phone isn't constantly on display"

No, but when it is, it's much easier to nick.

"Sounds to me that you just like having a flashy watch on your arm and are looking for excuses to justify it."

Liking having a flashy watch IS justification.

You're coming across as rather unlikeable in this thread.
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George Hirst on 14:54 - Dec 15 with 1020 views_clive_baker_

Amazed nobody has mentioned the other reason why blokes wear nice watches.

Outrageous levels of magnetic field in my single days.
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George Hirst on 14:55 - Dec 15 with 1004 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

George Hirst on 14:43 - Dec 15 by GlasgowBlue

Latest iphone is about twelve hundred quid isn't it?

Edit. £30 a month on a 3 year contract works out at just ver a grand.
[Post edited 15 Dec 2023 14:45]


"The latest" is going for the extreme to make your point. The majority of smart phones don't cost anywhere near that. And who pays up front for a phone these days?

Also, I'm on a 24 month contract - so no, you ain't got me there either.

And as I've said, the phone does everything - internet, sat nav, messages and calls, my train ticket, every app you could think of as well as telling the time . There's no comparison with an expensive watch.

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George Hirst on 15:00 - Dec 15 with 972 viewstractorboy1978

George Hirst on 14:55 - Dec 15 by The_Flashing_Smile

"The latest" is going for the extreme to make your point. The majority of smart phones don't cost anywhere near that. And who pays up front for a phone these days?

Also, I'm on a 24 month contract - so no, you ain't got me there either.

And as I've said, the phone does everything - internet, sat nav, messages and calls, my train ticket, every app you could think of as well as telling the time . There's no comparison with an expensive watch.


What you do is irrelevant though. I can assure you a hell of a lot of people do pay £1k+ for a phone. I know a few people that always buy the latest iPhone as soon as it comes out. Buying it up front is cheaper than getting it on a 24-36 month contract. I think it's p!ssing money up a wall personally, but a lot of people do it.
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George Hirst on 15:01 - Dec 15 with 970 viewsredrickstuhaart

George Hirst on 14:51 - Dec 15 by StokieBlue

"Blimey, what phone do you have?! I have a Google Pixel for £30 a month. I don't know anyone who has a phone worth more than a grand, as far as I know. So sorry, no, you can't equate the two."

A Google Pixel 8 Pro is just under 1000 GBP to buy new and it's not a flagship phone. Just because you pay for it monthly it doesn't mean the phone isn't an expensive item. By this logic you'd be fine wearing a 1000 GBP watch if you paid for it monthly.

"I would also dispute it's "far easier and more natural to look at your watch than get your phone out." I get my phone out regularly, to check notifications, emails etc. - far more than I would look for the time. So as I do that regularly I know what the time is anyway. I suspect most people are like this."

An entirely subjective response (although it could be argued my example was subjective). Each to their own I guess, not sure it's good form to be continually checking ones phone when out and about with people.

I don't have a flashy watch, I have a collection of vintage 1970's automatic Seiko's which aren't totally cheap but also aren't a Rolex. Even if I did have a flashy watch why would I need an excuse to justify it? It's not up to you what people wear and if they want to wear one then no justification is needed.

You seem to be telling people they shouldn't wear watches which is a very odd thing to do.

SB


Like watches, but not enough to be exravagant. I have 3 plus a golf watch, reffing watch and a smartwatch. You prompted me to check out 70s seikos and i see the appeal. Not sure i could get past them having been in conract with a stranger for decades though.
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George Hirst on 15:06 - Dec 15 with 945 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

George Hirst on 14:51 - Dec 15 by StokieBlue

"Blimey, what phone do you have?! I have a Google Pixel for £30 a month. I don't know anyone who has a phone worth more than a grand, as far as I know. So sorry, no, you can't equate the two."

A Google Pixel 8 Pro is just under 1000 GBP to buy new and it's not a flagship phone. Just because you pay for it monthly it doesn't mean the phone isn't an expensive item. By this logic you'd be fine wearing a 1000 GBP watch if you paid for it monthly.

"I would also dispute it's "far easier and more natural to look at your watch than get your phone out." I get my phone out regularly, to check notifications, emails etc. - far more than I would look for the time. So as I do that regularly I know what the time is anyway. I suspect most people are like this."

An entirely subjective response (although it could be argued my example was subjective). Each to their own I guess, not sure it's good form to be continually checking ones phone when out and about with people.

I don't have a flashy watch, I have a collection of vintage 1970's automatic Seiko's which aren't totally cheap but also aren't a Rolex. Even if I did have a flashy watch why would I need an excuse to justify it? It's not up to you what people wear and if they want to wear one then no justification is needed.

You seem to be telling people they shouldn't wear watches which is a very odd thing to do.

SB


Ok, let's pick this apart.

Firstly, I don't have a Pixel 8 Pro - you're doing Glassers' trick of trying to find an expensive phone to justify your argument. So your logic is flawed.

Secondly, a comparable Rolex to the phone you've used, as tractorboy says above, costs £5k-£10k. And it does one thing, as opposed to the multitude of things a smart phone does.

You might be right that regularly taking you phone out is risky, but we all do it don't we? It's a case of being sensible about it/having your wits about you. But the point is we all do it anyway, it's the modern world we live in. And the time's right there along with everything else.

I'm not telling people they shouldn't wear watches and I'm not saying you need to justify it to me or anyone. You're putting words in my mouth. I said it sounds to me like you're trying justify it. I'm not asking you to.

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George Hirst on 15:10 - Dec 15 with 920 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

George Hirst on 15:00 - Dec 15 by tractorboy1978

What you do is irrelevant though. I can assure you a hell of a lot of people do pay £1k+ for a phone. I know a few people that always buy the latest iPhone as soon as it comes out. Buying it up front is cheaper than getting it on a 24-36 month contract. I think it's p!ssing money up a wall personally, but a lot of people do it.
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Even so, you're going to the extreme to make the point. If you do the same with Rolex's, as you say above, that's £5k-£10k. For something that does way way less.

I may have come across stronger than I intended in this thread, people can spend their money how they want, I just find it hard to understand/justify ...other than the obvious which is to show off wealth and status.

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George Hirst on 15:10 - Dec 15 with 916 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

George Hirst on 14:55 - Dec 15 by The_Flashing_Smile

"The latest" is going for the extreme to make your point. The majority of smart phones don't cost anywhere near that. And who pays up front for a phone these days?

Also, I'm on a 24 month contract - so no, you ain't got me there either.

And as I've said, the phone does everything - internet, sat nav, messages and calls, my train ticket, every app you could think of as well as telling the time . There's no comparison with an expensive watch.


But you’ve already been told for many people it’s an investment. Some people like to have something more tangible, and with a better return than a ISA. Your phone is just a depreciating asset. New cars cost more than Rolex’s, do you get triggered by people buying those too - all those flash g1ts buying a Ford Puma eh.
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