| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by 10:59 - Dec 30 with 6049 views | jasondozzell |
I can't believe some are threatening to return to last year's madness. Can only assume it's the supporters who returned during success.
Depressing frankly. I know it's only a vocal minority but really sticks in the craw..
McKenna's comments about players being human beings and the flat atmosphere suggests he's also aware of it. What we've done this season is superhuman - a top end League 1 squad has stormed the first half of the championship season and is holding its own against huge premier League monied giants including the 2016 champions. Playing brilliant football too.
We've drawn a home game and found it tough with a number of injuries. Pretty normal in football.
Disgraceful comments about Ladapo and Jackson amongst others. Freddie is only human. It must be difficult for him at the moment - he' may well be off in Jan and he's had to sit on the bench after being top striker at the start of 22/23. He's still come.on and had an impaxt.in games this season. You can hardly.blame him for feeling a bit disgruntled.
He fired us to promotion and people are saying get him out of the club as soon as possible and he's useless! Ditto work Jackson, a player Mckenna has huge respect for and who puts the team first every time. Tired of people talking about players as if they are commodities only. That horrible disease of modern football - wanting to 'upgrade' players all the time and dismissing them as rubbish as soon as there's a tricky patch. People on twitter saying bye to Aluko, Jackson,. Ball in a sarky manner. Ignorant of all they've contributed.
It was disappointing last night but the players gave it their all.
The whole point of support is that you support the team. How would some of these supporters have dealt with Lincoln putting 5 past us? Or any of the horrors of the past 20 years?!
The team is not a product you return because it's not doing what you want
Whatever happens this season it's been absolutely brilliant effort.
If people want to hold onto McKenna then some could start with thinkiing about comments and attitude.
At least when 8000 of us were losing will to live logging on to ifollow you couldn't question anyone's loyalty! |  | | |  |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 17:44 - Dec 30 with 1481 views | BigCommon |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 11:43 - Dec 30 by LankHenners |
The atmosphere was disappointing last night but I don't think historical performances mean you can't say a player had a bad game. |
But why would you highlight a negative? |  | | |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 17:45 - Dec 30 with 1480 views | BigCommon |
Wish I could upvote the OP, X10...
Well said, and thank's for the sanity... | | | |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 17:51 - Dec 30 with 1448 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 11:43 - Dec 30 by LankHenners |
The atmosphere was disappointing last night but I don't think historical performances mean you can't say a player had a bad game. |
There is a distinct difference between fans that analyze on a message board after the game than those who moan and groan or ironically cheer doing it. Important not to put these people in the same camp. Anyone not backing or not fully supporting the team at PR after the year they’ve been treated to doesn’t have a brain. [Post edited 30 Dec 2023 17:52]
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| Totally agree on 18:00 - Dec 30 with 1418 views | Churchman |
| Totally agree on 12:04 - Dec 30 by Powrigan |
God forbid being annoyed with a month where we threw away a considerable points gap. |
God forbid you not posting when a game doesn’t go so well for us. Never happens any more than you post when we win. You’re not alone. There’s a cadre of people who delight in picking things apart, regardless of whether it’s merited.
McKenna has done two years here. The best two years I can recall since the Burley years. That includes Royle’s efforts and Mick’s against all odds season. We’ve been entertaining and winning. Did anyone really think that was the new normal? I’m frankly amazed it lasted so long and yet I wouldn’t be surprised if we went on another run, when players recover and games resume a normal pattern.
But for the Edgelords that’s lot enough. Ladapo is cr@p, Burgess should have been replaced before the season started, the Elephantbloke wanging on about debt peddlers or whatever, the reserves aren’t good enough, Burns is hopeless, what’s wrong with Williams, Clarke is rubbish, why aren’t we winning 10-0 every game etc etc etc.
I sometimes wonder if the Edgebrigade actually understand what sport is, let alone following and supporting a football team.
12 points from 7 games in December. What exactly did we ‘throw away’ and what were your expectations? I presume 21 points, 28 goals for 0 against? |  | | |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 18:04 - Dec 30 with 1385 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 15:15 - Dec 30 by TheBoyBlue |
I can't believe booing was aimed at anyone in particular. Maybe in the moment frustration with the result, the ref (although he was pretty decent) and/or QPR's timewasting. |
It was absolutely the referee and Begovic that was the source of the anger. 4 minutes of added on time soaked up and with it our chance at 3 points.
The crowd was flat, it groaned at the game, it wasn’t a good atmosphere and was not confident as soon as the team was announced. Equally while we worked hard, there wasn’t any gear shift or individual brilliance needed to pull off a result. I’m a big fan of both Aluko and Ladapo myself but they didn’t have a good game last night. Williams was probably the weakest performer, and we looked much better when Clarke came on. |  | | |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 18:45 - Dec 30 with 1306 views | The_Major |
Festive day trippers as well, I suspect. Was talking about this sort of thing with a friend, who, for their sins, is a season ticket holder at Carrow Road for many many years (Look, I live up here, I'm surrounded by them whether I like it or not!)
He said that one Boxing Day they stuttered to a 0-0 against Spurs, and he was hearing several moans and groans around him in the Barclay along the lines of "We ain't got a hope with this lot! They're pathetic!" coming from people he hadn't seen at any point in the previous games.
The thing is, this was Boxing Day 1992. You know, that season that gave them the chance to be participants the following one. I've just had a look at the Prem table at that point. They went into it FOUR points clear at the top.
TL;DR It's nothing new, this sort of attitude, especially at this time of year. |  | | |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 19:38 - Dec 30 with 1266 views | benrhyddingblue |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 18:04 - Dec 30 by ChampionsofInnsbruck |
It was absolutely the referee and Begovic that was the source of the anger. 4 minutes of added on time soaked up and with it our chance at 3 points.
The crowd was flat, it groaned at the game, it wasn’t a good atmosphere and was not confident as soon as the team was announced. Equally while we worked hard, there wasn’t any gear shift or individual brilliance needed to pull off a result. I’m a big fan of both Aluko and Ladapo myself but they didn’t have a good game last night. Williams was probably the weakest performer, and we looked much better when Clarke came on. |
I’ve seen you make this comment a couple of times now that the booing was aimed at the ref and Begovic, like you have spoken to every person who booed to find out why they did it. You have no idea why people booed so stop pretending you’re some kind of oracle who knows everything. The fact the boos started straight after the final whistle suggests you are wrong and it was mostly about the result. If you boo the ref you generally do it as the officials leave the field not instantly on the final whistle. |  | | |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 22:38 - Dec 30 with 1173 views | SomethingBlue |
Missed this earlier but it couldn’t be more true and really needs to be amplified. | |
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| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 22:43 - Dec 30 with 1154 views | cressi |
I don't boo, But I do feel disgruntled when Jackson starts McKenna can say whatever he likes but he will never be a good footballer in this league he can try run around a bit but generally awful . | | | |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 23:02 - Dec 30 with 1110 views | N2_Blue |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 22:43 - Dec 30 by cressi |
I don't boo, But I do feel disgruntled when Jackson starts McKenna can say whatever he likes but he will never be a good footballer in this league he can try run around a bit but generally awful . |
You do realise Jackson didn’t start last night???
Maybe that’s why some fans booed because they don’t even know our players to know it was a considerably weakened team last night. |  |
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| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 23:07 - Dec 30 with 1085 views | FifeITFC |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 23:02 - Dec 30 by N2_Blue |
You do realise Jackson didn’t start last night???
Maybe that’s why some fans booed because they don’t even know our players to know it was a considerably weakened team last night. |
Bit like the guy complaining about McKenna leaving Broadhead on the bench and bringing on Buabo and Aluko!
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| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 00:40 - Dec 31 with 1016 views | CobboldCrusty |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 11:50 - Dec 30 by Zx1988 |
I agree with you there.
However, that's miles away from the bloke behind me who let rip with "I f***ing hate you, Freddie" after his first touch of the ball last night, which rather set the tone for his discourse throughout the match. |
True and there was also someone calling him a.useless see you next Tuesday at one point - absolutely baffling tbh |  | | |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 08:47 - Dec 31 with 921 views | PioneerBlue |
Great post.
Let’s educate those around us in the ground where they callout playing from the back or players having a bad day that we are here at PR to support. Not in an overly aggressive or patronising way, but perhaps politely ask whether them remember what we were like in 2012, 2016 or 2017 only a few years back as a comparison.
Meaningful action. | |
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| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 08:57 - Dec 31 with 899 views | Buhrer |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 08:47 - Dec 31 by PioneerBlue |
Great post.
Let’s educate those around us in the ground where they callout playing from the back or players having a bad day that we are here at PR to support. Not in an overly aggressive or patronising way, but perhaps politely ask whether them remember what we were like in 2012, 2016 or 2017 only a few years back as a comparison.
Meaningful action. |
There's an interesting undercurrent to talking about poorly behaved/entitled fans, with the assumption being theyre new/returners. While I agree this seems likely, it's utterly unevidenced in reality and generally seems to be long time fans taking a moral high ground. It does come across as patronising, and having had many encounters with divs at footy, don't expect it will work. The thing to do is overwhelm them with loud positive support. |  | | |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 09:07 - Dec 31 with 882 views | Herbivore |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 08:57 - Dec 31 by Buhrer |
There's an interesting undercurrent to talking about poorly behaved/entitled fans, with the assumption being theyre new/returners. While I agree this seems likely, it's utterly unevidenced in reality and generally seems to be long time fans taking a moral high ground. It does come across as patronising, and having had many encounters with divs at footy, don't expect it will work. The thing to do is overwhelm them with loud positive support. |
There's two behind me who are relentlessly negative and spend the whole game calling Jackson a c**t or shouting "stop messing around with it, get rid" when we are passing it around neatly. They've been there for years so don't fall into the newbie or returner categories. |  |
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| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 09:09 - Dec 31 with 876 views | PioneerBlue |
| Entitlement again - the sort of thing that McKenna isn't impressed by on 08:57 - Dec 31 by Buhrer |
There's an interesting undercurrent to talking about poorly behaved/entitled fans, with the assumption being theyre new/returners. While I agree this seems likely, it's utterly unevidenced in reality and generally seems to be long time fans taking a moral high ground. It does come across as patronising, and having had many encounters with divs at footy, don't expect it will work. The thing to do is overwhelm them with loud positive support. |
Not sure how long they have been supporting eitherway it’s short term collective memory! | |
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