| Seems likely striker will drag on a bit into the window.... 09:54 - Jan 11 with 9481 views | itfcjoe |
....guess it makes sense because if you can't get the right man in before the weekend - we only have one away game (which no one will expect to get anything from) before the window shuts
I'm sure we wanted someone in early, but now that hasn't been able to be done there is no extra rush to find someone now compared to in a week or two's time when the dominos start to fall in the leagues above.
|  |
| |  |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 16:36 - Jan 11 with 1648 views | JakeITFC |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 16:29 - Jan 11 by BlueOura |
I agree with what you are saying but imho we simply have to get somebody in from within the pool of players available, even if that means getting a Bishop/Longstaff/Cole type from L1 /L2.
In an ideal world this would not be our market but we have to give ourselves the best possible chance of staying in the top two and that means getting an upgrade on Ladapo ( who is nowhere near good enough ) even if the upgrade is not ultimately good enough for where we are heading. |
I understand the point, but I'm not sure you could say definitively that Bishop or Langstaff are better than Ladapo really - Freddie has more lower league goals than both, has played in the Championship before and got 21 goals for us last season. It would take millions to procure either and I'm not sure you could do it with much upside certainty (especially given they are both 27 or thereabouts). |  | | |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 17:03 - Jan 11 with 1538 views | BlueOura |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 16:36 - Jan 11 by JakeITFC |
I understand the point, but I'm not sure you could say definitively that Bishop or Langstaff are better than Ladapo really - Freddie has more lower league goals than both, has played in the Championship before and got 21 goals for us last season. It would take millions to procure either and I'm not sure you could do it with much upside certainty (especially given they are both 27 or thereabouts). |
That's fair and I don't entirely disagree. I'm not saying the players I've named are necessarily the right ones for us but I do think they are better than Freddie currently. He is just so hopelessly out of form and lacking in confidence at the moment that we cannot afford to go the rest of the season without at least one alternative option. |  | | |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 17:06 - Jan 11 with 1518 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 17:03 - Jan 11 by BlueOura |
That's fair and I don't entirely disagree. I'm not saying the players I've named are necessarily the right ones for us but I do think they are better than Freddie currently. He is just so hopelessly out of form and lacking in confidence at the moment that we cannot afford to go the rest of the season without at least one alternative option. |
Freddie also spent a lot of time playing in a front two.
Go back to his time at rotherham and he was part of one of the most prolific front 2 in the league.
The problem for us at present. We have two strikers to choose from who are perfect in a front two for this level. Bit we don't play it. Don't need to play it. But are worse off because we don't.
BTW. By worse off I just mean with the choices of striker we have left. Not of course our league performance. [Post edited 11 Jan 2024 17:07]
|  |
| |
| Seems likely striker will drag on a bit into the window.... on 17:10 - Jan 11 with 1498 views | pennblue |
| Seems likely striker will drag on a bit into the window.... on 12:00 - Jan 11 by FrimleyBlue |
What some are ignoring is the effect this may have on KM's thoughts on staying with town.
So far hes had support in every way in every direction he's wanted. But if the club can't get him the players he wants then there will be clubs out there who can. |
Just need to take a chill pill, there is absolutely no point in bringing in 'anyone' for the sake of it. We only want strikers that will come in and improve our starting 11 now. |  |
| |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 17:24 - Jan 11 with 1466 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 17:06 - Jan 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Freddie also spent a lot of time playing in a front two.
Go back to his time at rotherham and he was part of one of the most prolific front 2 in the league.
The problem for us at present. We have two strikers to choose from who are perfect in a front two for this level. Bit we don't play it. Don't need to play it. But are worse off because we don't.
BTW. By worse off I just mean with the choices of striker we have left. Not of course our league performance. [Post edited 11 Jan 2024 17:07]
|
They are not perfect for a front two at this level, unfortunately. And to play them as a front two we'd have to drop one of Chaplin, Burns, Broadhead which would make us weaker. | | | |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 17:25 - Jan 11 with 1464 views | JakeITFC |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 17:06 - Jan 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Freddie also spent a lot of time playing in a front two.
Go back to his time at rotherham and he was part of one of the most prolific front 2 in the league.
The problem for us at present. We have two strikers to choose from who are perfect in a front two for this level. Bit we don't play it. Don't need to play it. But are worse off because we don't.
BTW. By worse off I just mean with the choices of striker we have left. Not of course our league performance. [Post edited 11 Jan 2024 17:07]
|
Ladapo had the best goal scoring season of his career in our system last year. | | | |
| Seems likely striker will drag on a bit into the window.... on 17:44 - Jan 11 with 1411 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Seems likely striker will drag on a bit into the window.... on 10:22 - Jan 11 by itfcjoe |
Seems most likely to happen, maybe Jackson plays there at Leicester when we won't have much of the ball but at home you need to make something happen |
Any thought on going 2 up top? A pairing of Broadhead and Chaplin? |  |
| |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 17:47 - Jan 11 with 1392 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 17:25 - Jan 11 by JakeITFC |
Ladapo had the best goal scoring season of his career in our system last year. |
Oo that's interesting to know. Thanks :) | |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 18:57 - Jan 11 with 1287 views | berkstractorboy |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 17:25 - Jan 11 by JakeITFC |
Ladapo had the best goal scoring season of his career in our system last year. |
Against weaker opposition. The trouble seems to be Fred's head has gone and fans will quickly get on his back if he misses a chance so you are comparing a very different player to last seasons Fred against inferior defenders and he had motivation | | | |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 19:21 - Jan 11 with 1209 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 17:24 - Jan 11 by tractorboy1978 |
They are not perfect for a front two at this level, unfortunately. And to play them as a front two we'd have to drop one of Chaplin, Burns, Broadhead which would make us weaker. |
Oh no. I didn't mean as our front 2. Or the need to change to a front 2 Just meant they as individuals are perfect for a front two system. But also. League 1. | |
| |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 09:02 - Jan 12 with 948 views | Vegtablue |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 19:21 - Jan 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Oh no. I didn't mean as our front 2. Or the need to change to a front 2 Just meant they as individuals are perfect for a front two system. But also. League 1. |
"The problem for us at present. We have two strikers to choose from who are perfect in a front two for this level. Bit we don't play it. Don't need to play it. But are worse off because we don't."
Not intending to be prickly: you didn't mean to say perfect for this level, but the level below? And by worse off, you don't mean the side is worse off, because we would need to sacrifice a player behind the pair and this would weaken the team overall, but specifically the CF position in the team is weaker for having only one of them there rather than both?
If I've understood that correctly, I'm not convinced they're the perfect foil for each other or partnership-to-be. Perhaps Freddie's strength and predatory instincts would combine well with Kayden's pace and engine in a front two system, but I'd need to see it before I was confident in it. Great if we can market them this way to a Wrexham in the summer. | | | |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 09:08 - Jan 12 with 931 views | Simonds92 |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 09:02 - Jan 12 by Vegtablue |
"The problem for us at present. We have two strikers to choose from who are perfect in a front two for this level. Bit we don't play it. Don't need to play it. But are worse off because we don't."
Not intending to be prickly: you didn't mean to say perfect for this level, but the level below? And by worse off, you don't mean the side is worse off, because we would need to sacrifice a player behind the pair and this would weaken the team overall, but specifically the CF position in the team is weaker for having only one of them there rather than both?
If I've understood that correctly, I'm not convinced they're the perfect foil for each other or partnership-to-be. Perhaps Freddie's strength and predatory instincts would combine well with Kayden's pace and engine in a front two system, but I'd need to see it before I was confident in it. Great if we can market them this way to a Wrexham in the summer. |
I think the point was Freddie has played better as a 2 in the past for Rotherham and Jackson's best season for us was playing in a 2 with Norwood.
Both scenarios were at league 1 level though.
Think its a fair point. | | | |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 09:31 - Jan 12 with 851 views | Vegtablue |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 09:08 - Jan 12 by Simonds92 |
I think the point was Freddie has played better as a 2 in the past for Rotherham and Jackson's best season for us was playing in a 2 with Norwood.
Both scenarios were at league 1 level though.
Think its a fair point. |
I wonder if their spells on 'their own' in L1 under McKenna rival some of their best performances in a pair elsewhere, but I'm happy to agree they work best in partnerships (exploring the theory sounds like work lol).
I did think there was more to striker partnerships than putting any two together that enjoy playing with a partner up front, but maybe I'm overcomplicating that and it's more a case of coaches doing their jobs right. | | | |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 09:52 - Jan 12 with 815 views | Simonds92 |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 09:31 - Jan 12 by Vegtablue |
I wonder if their spells on 'their own' in L1 under McKenna rival some of their best performances in a pair elsewhere, but I'm happy to agree they work best in partnerships (exploring the theory sounds like work lol).
I did think there was more to striker partnerships than putting any two together that enjoy playing with a partner up front, but maybe I'm overcomplicating that and it's more a case of coaches doing their jobs right. |
I don't think he's necessarily saying they would be a dream partnership (I might be wrong), just that they have been more effective as a 2. They both have attributes which if you could combine them you would get a George Hirst. Unfortunately, we need all of those attributes in 1 player! | | | |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 10:16 - Jan 12 with 781 views | Vegtablue |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 09:52 - Jan 12 by Simonds92 |
I don't think he's necessarily saying they would be a dream partnership (I might be wrong), just that they have been more effective as a 2. They both have attributes which if you could combine them you would get a George Hirst. Unfortunately, we need all of those attributes in 1 player! |
No I'm confident you're right and I'm wrong lol.
Frimley's clarity improved as the thread went on and I failed to keep up, quickly reading through now. And totally, grabbing the sellotape may be our best bet at the rate the transfer window is going. 🥲 | | | |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 10:49 - Jan 12 with 737 views | textbackup |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 18:57 - Jan 11 by berkstractorboy |
Against weaker opposition. The trouble seems to be Fred's head has gone and fans will quickly get on his back if he misses a chance so you are comparing a very different player to last seasons Fred against inferior defenders and he had motivation |
He was through on goal vs QPR and instead of pulling the trigger he fcking turned his back to goal… I’m sure every player in the team, for us and them, both said ‘what the fck’ when he did that… that’s not even a confidence thing. It was just plain stupid |  |
| |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 11:42 - Jan 12 with 659 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Nah, we needed another striker.... on 10:49 - Jan 12 by textbackup |
He was through on goal vs QPR and instead of pulling the trigger he fcking turned his back to goal… I’m sure every player in the team, for us and them, both said ‘what the fck’ when he did that… that’s not even a confidence thing. It was just plain stupid |
Reminded me of Naylor in the San Siro! | | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
