| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 15:25 - Jan 11 with 3344 views | Perublue |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 12:29 - Jan 11 by Guthrum |
I would argue that some of that is masked by events where Trump bears some responsibility only coming to fruition after he left office.
That includes Afghanistan, where his administration negotiated the precipitate withdrawal agreement which Biden's team then had to carry out. Israel, where he encouraged the regime in every way, such as by moving the embassy to Jerusalem. Arguably even Ukraine, by encouraging Putin and by undermining Kyiv (because they wouldn't cooperate over Hunter Biden).
Trump may not have directly ordered troops into anywhere, but his incompetence has contributed to a lot of blood being shed. |
Spot on post in my view.
I was of the same view as the poster (no disrespect intended) you replied too and felt that way,but over the last years have changed my opinion for the reasons you summarize perfectly here.
The only one possibly was North korea as that was looking very close to kicking off when he came in....if anything though he did placate and delay at best the inevitable in that case. |  |
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 15:29 - Jan 11 with 3311 views | gordon |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 15:18 - Jan 11 by giant_stow |
Yeah the sides are pretty clear, which is pretty scary. |
Yep, and it's not obvious how it would all play out etc. - China has been thinking about Taiwan for ages, and what possible moment would be better than with Trump back in the White House and Europe and the West having spent years and £££s supporting Ukraine against Russia. |  | | |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 15:40 - Jan 11 with 3282 views | Perublue |
I'm tired so I may be recalling this wrong,but wasn't Trump quite keen on pulling out of NATO pre 2016 election citeing the lack of money compared to the States that the allies were PUTINing into it ? ...probably in reality he felt there was no need to it existing being the real reason to back that view up.....got that wrong didn´t he.
I think along with him and followed by a period of "weak" leaders dealing with domestic issues crippling them (Germany,UK,France etc) and COVID as viewed by the "enemy" has emboldened them all...perfect storm [Post edited 11 Jan 2024 15:45]
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 16:34 - Jan 11 with 3244 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 12:10 - Jan 11 by Blueschev |
Do you think he could attract enough swing voters to pull it off? |
I think he's relying on the 'women for Trump' to do that for him. |  |
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 08:29 - Jan 12 with 3168 views | GlasgowBlue |
I think we are seeing the early stages of World War III. The Russian invasion of Ukraine with NATO countries giving military support which falls short of being actively involved in the ground. Israel at war with Iran’s proxies Hamas and Palestinian an Islamic Jihad. The UK and US launching strikes and another Iranian proxy, the Houthis in Yemen. Iran giving arms to Russia.
It’s all connected. [Post edited 12 Jan 2024 8:42]
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 08:34 - Jan 12 with 3146 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 08:29 - Jan 12 by GlasgowBlue |
I think we are seeing the early stages of World War III. The Russian invasion of Ukraine with NATO countries giving military support which falls short of being actively involved in the ground. Israel at war with Iran’s proxies Hamas and Palestinian an Islamic Jihad. The UK and US launching strikes and another Iranian proxy, the Houthis in Yemen. Iran giving arms to Russia.
It’s all connected. [Post edited 12 Jan 2024 8:42]
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But will we win on Saturday? | |
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 10:02 - Jan 12 with 3106 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 08:34 - Jan 12 by BanksterDebtSlave |
But will we win on Saturday? |
We’ll get automatic promotion just as nuclear armageddon breaks out in true Ipswich style…
Trump would be a disaster in terms of foreign policy. There was some merit in his previous comments about some major NATO countries not pulling their weight in terms of spending. But casting doubt on US commitment is only going to embolden Russia, Iran, and China.
In my opinion Iran is directing its proxies to cause economic harm to the West. The attacks on shipping have happened for years but they’ve ramped it up in order to disrupt supply chains. Furthermore the cost of deploying the missiles to shoot down these cheap drones is in the tens of millions. Trump actually took a hardline on Iran pulling out of deals made by Obama, it’s quite possible that hardened the resolve of the Iranian regime. |  | | |
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 14:11 - Jan 12 with 3061 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 11:15 - Jan 11 by J2BLUE |
We badly need Trump to run for president and be completely trounced.
It will be a disaster if he gets in and his supporters will go full tilt if it's a close contest. |
If you think he is going to get trounced you’ve not been paying attention. Biden and this administration have been a disaster, that is the only reason he may get back in. Have you seen, Biden’s approval ratings, 34 percent for a sitting president. Moderates hate him. There is little appetite over here for those two to be the candidates but it’s probably going to happen. |  | | |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 14:13 - Jan 12 with 3052 views | NthQldITFC |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 10:02 - Jan 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
We’ll get automatic promotion just as nuclear armageddon breaks out in true Ipswich style…
Trump would be a disaster in terms of foreign policy. There was some merit in his previous comments about some major NATO countries not pulling their weight in terms of spending. But casting doubt on US commitment is only going to embolden Russia, Iran, and China.
In my opinion Iran is directing its proxies to cause economic harm to the West. The attacks on shipping have happened for years but they’ve ramped it up in order to disrupt supply chains. Furthermore the cost of deploying the missiles to shoot down these cheap drones is in the tens of millions. Trump actually took a hardline on Iran pulling out of deals made by Obama, it’s quite possible that hardened the resolve of the Iranian regime. |
I think the new pitch will hold up just fine. |  |
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 14:13 - Jan 12 with 3046 views | J2BLUE |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 14:11 - Jan 12 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
If you think he is going to get trounced you’ve not been paying attention. Biden and this administration have been a disaster, that is the only reason he may get back in. Have you seen, Biden’s approval ratings, 34 percent for a sitting president. Moderates hate him. There is little appetite over here for those two to be the candidates but it’s probably going to happen. |
I don't think that. I said that is what we need.
I am well aware Trump is favourite. |  |
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 14:15 - Jan 12 with 3036 views | NthQldITFC |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 15:40 - Jan 11 by Perublue |
I'm tired so I may be recalling this wrong,but wasn't Trump quite keen on pulling out of NATO pre 2016 election citeing the lack of money compared to the States that the allies were PUTINing into it ? ...probably in reality he felt there was no need to it existing being the real reason to back that view up.....got that wrong didn´t he.
I think along with him and followed by a period of "weak" leaders dealing with domestic issues crippling them (Germany,UK,France etc) and COVID as viewed by the "enemy" has emboldened them all...perfect storm [Post edited 11 Jan 2024 15:45]
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Yes. John Bolton (the belligerent Walrus) said last year that Trump intends to pull the Yanks out of NATO if he gets back in.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/04/john-bolton-trump-nato-2024 | |
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 14:37 - Jan 12 with 3006 views | Blueschev |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 14:11 - Jan 12 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
If you think he is going to get trounced you’ve not been paying attention. Biden and this administration have been a disaster, that is the only reason he may get back in. Have you seen, Biden’s approval ratings, 34 percent for a sitting president. Moderates hate him. There is little appetite over here for those two to be the candidates but it’s probably going to happen. |
In what respect has the Biden administration been a disaster? I'm interested to hear from the perspective of somebody who lives there, which I believe you do? |  | | |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 14:46 - Jan 12 with 3002 views | blueasfook |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 08:29 - Jan 12 by GlasgowBlue |
I think we are seeing the early stages of World War III. The Russian invasion of Ukraine with NATO countries giving military support which falls short of being actively involved in the ground. Israel at war with Iran’s proxies Hamas and Palestinian an Islamic Jihad. The UK and US launching strikes and another Iranian proxy, the Houthis in Yemen. Iran giving arms to Russia.
It’s all connected. [Post edited 12 Jan 2024 8:42]
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These skirmishes in these regions have been going on for years and have not triggered WW3 yet.
To me, the real worry is if (when) China invade Taiwan. With the US committed to defend them, that will be a real test of world peace. |  |
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 12:29 - Jan 13 with 2935 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 12:29 - Jan 11 by Guthrum |
I would argue that some of that is masked by events where Trump bears some responsibility only coming to fruition after he left office.
That includes Afghanistan, where his administration negotiated the precipitate withdrawal agreement which Biden's team then had to carry out. Israel, where he encouraged the regime in every way, such as by moving the embassy to Jerusalem. Arguably even Ukraine, by encouraging Putin and by undermining Kyiv (because they wouldn't cooperate over Hunter Biden).
Trump may not have directly ordered troops into anywhere, but his incompetence has contributed to a lot of blood being shed. |
Hey Guthers.
Everyone knows you are a very intelligent man, I for one doff my cap to you.
Not sure I agree with you about Bidens complete screw up of Afghanistan though.
Also - the fact the Yanks are likely to field Biden and Trump in a head to head absolutely beggars believe. They are both absolute jokers - and that’s not even taking into account that they are both senile.
When you think of it you just have to wonder how USA keeps its tenure as no 1 superpower, I mean, when was the last time they had a decent president - and don’t say alleged serial rapists JFK and Billy the Clinton.
Even going right back, Ford and Carter were dummers.
In fact, when you think of it, the Bush dynasty is looking a fecking world beater. |  |
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 23:15 - Jan 15 with 2737 views | JackNorthStand |
I think if Trunp is elected to run he has a very realistic chance of winning, despite all that happened 4 years ago.
Joe Biden won last time not because people wanted him in, but because they were fed up of Trump. On that same basis that is why Trump stands a chance of becoming president, many Americans feel embarrassed to have Biden as president particularly on the world stage.
Rightly or wrongly time is a healer and 4 years is a long time in politics. | | | |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 00:21 - Jan 16 with 2723 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 14:13 - Jan 12 by NthQldITFC |
I think the new pitch will hold up just fine. |
Might get a bit singed like the fence. |  | | |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 10:46 - Jan 16 with 2651 views | DJR |
More alarmism from the Defence Secretary of all people, with the headline in the Times
"World on perilous path to war within five years, Shapps warns."
For my own part, I don't think things on a world war scale are as bad as portrayed, although this is not to downplay the tragedy of what is happening in places like the Ukraine and Gaza.
The war in Ukraine appears to me have shown, for example, that Russia is not the conventional threat to the rest of Europe that it was thought to be, and at the end of the day, MAD, in my view, will ensure the three main players (China, Russia and the US) don't escalate things too far. After all, Trump and Putin may be both dangerous and deranged but I don't sense either is that stupid. [Post edited 16 Jan 2024 10:48]
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 11:14 - Jan 16 with 2621 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 10:46 - Jan 16 by DJR |
More alarmism from the Defence Secretary of all people, with the headline in the Times
"World on perilous path to war within five years, Shapps warns."
For my own part, I don't think things on a world war scale are as bad as portrayed, although this is not to downplay the tragedy of what is happening in places like the Ukraine and Gaza.
The war in Ukraine appears to me have shown, for example, that Russia is not the conventional threat to the rest of Europe that it was thought to be, and at the end of the day, MAD, in my view, will ensure the three main players (China, Russia and the US) don't escalate things too far. After all, Trump and Putin may be both dangerous and deranged but I don't sense either is that stupid. [Post edited 16 Jan 2024 10:48]
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Essentially you’ve described the Cold War, and that’s pretty much what we’ve seen emerge - only this time with the added complication of China. Unlike the original Cold War they aren’t behind the iron curtain. Whilst on one hand we trade with them, on the other hand they are cyber attacking our institutions, attempting to infiltrate parliament, and spying on our universities. It’s a bizarre situation.
Currently Iran has mobilised its militant groups - Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis. Last night Iran launched a missile attack on Iraq. This is an escalation of what they’ve been doing for the last decade (attacks on civilian shipping, and US military bases in the region). This might put the recent warming of relations with Saudi back, and we may see escalation of their proxy war in Yemen.
For all the talk of humanity coming together to solve the climate crisis, unfortunately today we still see numerous bad actors around the globe who are happy to turn the world into rubble. | | | |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 11:34 - Jan 16 with 2608 views | DJR |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 11:14 - Jan 16 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Essentially you’ve described the Cold War, and that’s pretty much what we’ve seen emerge - only this time with the added complication of China. Unlike the original Cold War they aren’t behind the iron curtain. Whilst on one hand we trade with them, on the other hand they are cyber attacking our institutions, attempting to infiltrate parliament, and spying on our universities. It’s a bizarre situation.
Currently Iran has mobilised its militant groups - Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis. Last night Iran launched a missile attack on Iraq. This is an escalation of what they’ve been doing for the last decade (attacks on civilian shipping, and US military bases in the region). This might put the recent warming of relations with Saudi back, and we may see escalation of their proxy war in Yemen.
For all the talk of humanity coming together to solve the climate crisis, unfortunately today we still see numerous bad actors around the globe who are happy to turn the world into rubble. |
Yes, the Cold War had an element of stability about it which is lacking now. And as you say there are now regional players such as Iran and Saudi Arabia which further complicates things. And sadly, without there being a world war, there is much damage and destruction going on everywhere as you say, something that was probably never imaginable with the fall of the Iron Curtain, when an element of optimism abounded.
As it is, optimism is retreating in many other areas as well including the climate and economic well-being.
It is all rather depressing. [Post edited 16 Jan 2024 11:36]
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 12:17 - Jan 16 with 2582 views | longtimefan |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 08:34 - Jan 12 by BanksterDebtSlave |
But will we win on Saturday? |
Edit : Old post got the wrong weekend! [Post edited 16 Jan 2024 12:18]
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| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 10:27 - Jan 17 with 2484 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Not alarnist in my know nothing opinion on 11:34 - Jan 16 by DJR |
Yes, the Cold War had an element of stability about it which is lacking now. And as you say there are now regional players such as Iran and Saudi Arabia which further complicates things. And sadly, without there being a world war, there is much damage and destruction going on everywhere as you say, something that was probably never imaginable with the fall of the Iron Curtain, when an element of optimism abounded.
As it is, optimism is retreating in many other areas as well including the climate and economic well-being.
It is all rather depressing. [Post edited 16 Jan 2024 11:36]
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Following the missile strike in Iraq, Iran have now fired one into Pakistan (presumably related to an Islamic extremist terrorist attack in Iran recently). Pakistan have said that some children were killed in the strike. More blood on Iran’s hand and a further escalation in violence in the region. | | | |
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