| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 21:49 - Feb 13 with 1652 views | Vegtablue |
I've mentioned before that I think Palace should be an attractive proposition for McKenna. Moderate success is needed with a mid-tier PL club before he may be considered for a top one. Turning us into a mid-tier PL club is much less certain and should take much longer than achieving the 'required' level of success there. If he could implement his style successfully at Palace, nurture the young talent and break the 50-point 'barrier' even, preside over a few England caps, that level of performance would make him a genuine contender for a big job.
Doing remarkable work in the EFL or remarkable survival work in the PL just isn't enough to elevate a manager to the shortlist of 'top' clubs. He's behind Potter, Frank, O'Neill, De Zerbi etc. until he proves himself in the mid-table PL mini battles. Doing remarkable work in the EFL isn't normally enough for any PL appointment, outside of promoting one's club into the division. Potter left Swansea after one season. Jones received the Southampton hospital pass. Lampard was his own special case and that's about it. PL headhunting at these depths is testament to a uniquely exciting talent.
I write the above only because I don't believe a potential summer departure should lessen our estimation of him. Arguably it presents the quickest route to the top and is a rare opportunity. It's pleasing to hear he's committed to finishing the season with us in spite of that. |  | |  |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 21:52 - Feb 13 with 1615 views | Jimmy86 |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 21:49 - Feb 13 by Vegtablue |
I've mentioned before that I think Palace should be an attractive proposition for McKenna. Moderate success is needed with a mid-tier PL club before he may be considered for a top one. Turning us into a mid-tier PL club is much less certain and should take much longer than achieving the 'required' level of success there. If he could implement his style successfully at Palace, nurture the young talent and break the 50-point 'barrier' even, preside over a few England caps, that level of performance would make him a genuine contender for a big job.
Doing remarkable work in the EFL or remarkable survival work in the PL just isn't enough to elevate a manager to the shortlist of 'top' clubs. He's behind Potter, Frank, O'Neill, De Zerbi etc. until he proves himself in the mid-table PL mini battles. Doing remarkable work in the EFL isn't normally enough for any PL appointment, outside of promoting one's club into the division. Potter left Swansea after one season. Jones received the Southampton hospital pass. Lampard was his own special case and that's about it. PL headhunting at these depths is testament to a uniquely exciting talent.
I write the above only because I don't believe a potential summer departure should lessen our estimation of him. Arguably it presents the quickest route to the top and is a rare opportunity. It's pleasing to hear he's committed to finishing the season with us in spite of that. |
IF he does go and it's a big IF, I have every faith in the club appointing a suitable successor and you couldn't say that under Evans tenure, EVER.. | | | |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 21:59 - Feb 13 with 1573 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 18:49 - Feb 13 by Illinoisblue |
Was (sadly) assuming it was more than just a lazy recycling of existing rumour if the Guarsian were running with it. |
You’d still think he’d be mad to take that job at this stage of the season.
And then in the summer Eze and Olise will be sold so it would be even harder.
Hopefully he believes in himself for a much bigger job and can see we are almost guaranteed a playoff place at least. That should be enough to keep him on if nothing else. [Post edited 13 Feb 2024 22:00]
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| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 22:00 - Feb 13 with 1559 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 21:52 - Feb 13 by Jimmy86 |
IF he does go and it's a big IF, I have every faith in the club appointing a suitable successor and you couldn't say that under Evans tenure, EVER.. |
Can guarantee Ashton already has a few names ready to approach | | | |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 22:10 - Feb 13 with 1516 views | Jimmy86 |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 22:00 - Feb 13 by ElderGrizzly |
Can guarantee Ashton already has a few names ready to approach |
Therein lies the difference between us as a club now, compared to the previous regime.. we're run by football people, who actually know what they're doing.. long may it continue!! | | | |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 07:13 - Feb 14 with 1396 views | tractordownsouth |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 21:59 - Feb 13 by ElderGrizzly |
You’d still think he’d be mad to take that job at this stage of the season.
And then in the summer Eze and Olise will be sold so it would be even harder.
Hopefully he believes in himself for a much bigger job and can see we are almost guaranteed a playoff place at least. That should be enough to keep him on if nothing else. [Post edited 13 Feb 2024 22:00]
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West Ham is the one I’m worried about |  |
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| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 07:29 - Feb 14 with 1381 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 21:59 - Feb 13 by ElderGrizzly |
You’d still think he’d be mad to take that job at this stage of the season.
And then in the summer Eze and Olise will be sold so it would be even harder.
Hopefully he believes in himself for a much bigger job and can see we are almost guaranteed a playoff place at least. That should be enough to keep him on if nothing else. [Post edited 13 Feb 2024 22:00]
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If he's given them the brush off now then I think that says something about how he sees the Palace job. There looks a good chance they will have to make a change soon so the job won't be available in the summer. If it were now or never and he thought it was too good an opportunity to turn down, he'd already be gone. I'm sure he knows he's well up the shortlist for better jobs if changes were to happen elsewhere, i.e Brighton, West Ham etc. | | | |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 08:12 - Feb 14 with 1346 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 22:10 - Feb 13 by Jimmy86 |
Therein lies the difference between us as a club now, compared to the previous regime.. we're run by football people, who actually know what they're doing.. long may it continue!! |
Hopefully Liam Manning is one of them. Would be a struggle to get him out of Bristol maybe but he’d be top of the list for me. | | | |
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| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 08:17 - Feb 14 with 1324 views | Jimmy86 |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 08:12 - Feb 14 by PrideOfTheEast |
Hopefully Liam Manning is one of them. Would be a struggle to get him out of Bristol maybe but he’d be top of the list for me. |
I'd still love Mowbray!! Ok he's not one of these up and coming coaches, but his teams still play really good football... Obv knows the town and the club.. no brainer for me | | | |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 08:37 - Feb 14 with 1303 views | textbackup |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 22:00 - Feb 13 by ElderGrizzly |
Can guarantee Ashton already has a few names ready to approach |
And this might be the hopeless romantic in me, but I do think KM would be keen to give his input to who takes us on after him. |  |
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| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 09:17 - Feb 14 with 1258 views | PhilTWTD |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 07:13 - Feb 14 by tractordownsouth |
West Ham is the one I’m worried about |
I don't think they'd target him, they'd want someone with experience at a higher level than a year in the Championship. |  | | |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 09:48 - Feb 14 with 1208 views | vilanovablue |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 09:17 - Feb 14 by PhilTWTD |
I don't think they'd target him, they'd want someone with experience at a higher level than a year in the Championship. |
I think Brighton is the team I worry about most. RDZ could end up somewhere bigger and we know how good Brighton are at unearthing managers. |  | | |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 10:41 - Feb 14 with 1173 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 09:17 - Feb 14 by PhilTWTD |
I don't think they'd target him, they'd want someone with experience at a higher level than a year in the Championship. |
Agreed. I think Brighton would be the same but I guess they have history of taking a punt on KM types. This is why Palace is more likely than some might think to me. | | | |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 11:49 - Feb 14 with 1114 views | goperryrevs |
When was the last time we had a manager poached, rather than sacking them for underperfoming (or them resigning for a similar reason - e.g. Lyall)?
Is there anyone since Sir Bobby? | | | |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 12:54 - Feb 14 with 1065 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 16:34 - Feb 13 by hype313 |
If we don't go up then he'll go. |
Do you have the lottery numbers for Saturday please?.. | | | |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 13:55 - Feb 14 with 1020 views | Vegtablue |
| Guardian story McKenna and Palace on 09:17 - Feb 14 by PhilTWTD |
I don't think they'd target him, they'd want someone with experience at a higher level than a year in the Championship. |
My thoughts too. West Ham should be browsing in the Graham Potter shopping aisle if they let Moyes go. Aston Villa likewise should Emery leave. De Zerbi joined Brighton from Ukraine, a unique situation, but it may also point to their net being wide. The brightest European managers below top-job reputational status could be on their longlist. Is McKenna the confluence of Brighton's ambition and limitations in the market? Or is the exciting UCL manager of a poorer club closer to their ideal candidate?
My hope is Palace act on Hodgson quickly and find a medium-term replacement, rather than a caretaker type. | | | |
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