| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 20:45 - Mar 10 with 2076 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 19:52 - Mar 10 by Aviator |
You get tax relief on pension contributions. Or at least I do on mine. |
Are you just trying to be combative or just simple?
While you are earning a wage/salary you pay National Insurance above a set amount. The more years you pay r, the higher your state pension will be.
Once you reach retirement age you receive your state pension, then you stop paying national insurance.
You are getting tax relief on your private pension contributions encouragement to be less of a burden on the state. Without it you standard of living will dramatically fall.
In a previous comment you suggested that pensioners don't contribute to the economy.. You contribute to the economy every time you spend money. If I'm wrong on this please let me know how I go about claiming back all the VAT paid since I retired 12 years ago |  |
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| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 20:49 - Mar 10 with 2067 views | J2BLUE |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 19:20 - Mar 10 by Aviator |
Well I personally know about loads. Probably 20 people. |
Ahh so you're a pensioner and you just happen to know loads.
Of course you do. |  |
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| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 21:09 - Mar 10 with 2041 views | DJR |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 20:45 - Mar 10 by Pinewoodblue |
Are you just trying to be combative or just simple?
While you are earning a wage/salary you pay National Insurance above a set amount. The more years you pay r, the higher your state pension will be.
Once you reach retirement age you receive your state pension, then you stop paying national insurance.
You are getting tax relief on your private pension contributions encouragement to be less of a burden on the state. Without it you standard of living will dramatically fall.
In a previous comment you suggested that pensioners don't contribute to the economy.. You contribute to the economy every time you spend money. If I'm wrong on this please let me know how I go about claiming back all the VAT paid since I retired 12 years ago |
I sense the poster is just trying to be provocative, as they were (from recollection) on another thread. |  | | |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 21:20 - Mar 10 with 2027 views | bournemouthblue |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 10:05 - Mar 10 by Mercian |
Utter tripe. I am out of work. I am well qualified, have good general experience and a good record. I served 22 years in The Army and left with the rank of Warrant Officer class 2 (Sergeant Major). I am 52 and have applied for many jobs even those below my level so to speak. I have to go to a partronising 5 hour group meeting in Derby once a week which is 14 miles away. They have a similar meeting in Nottingham which is only 8 miles away but as I live in Derbyshire I have to go to Derby. There have been no buses since the pandemic and I cannot afford to insure my car so I have to ask friends or family to take me. They tell me that employers do not descriminate against older people. When I pointed out to my 19 year old advisor that out of the 30 or so employees at the centre not one looked over 40 she just shruged it off. If you'e over 50 they don't want to know. Tell me, will cutting National Insurance benefit you? With respect attitudes like yours make me seeth. [Post edited 10 Mar 2024 10:19]
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I'm literally doing a course at the moment where it said age based discrimination is the biggest form of discrimination in the workplace |  |
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| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 22:03 - Mar 10 with 2006 views | factual_blue |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 21:09 - Mar 10 by DJR |
I sense the poster is just trying to be provocative, as they were (from recollection) on another thread. |
As Bluebadger points out regularly, trolling of this sort is meant to make others look stupid and not, as is the case here, show up the troll as the idiot. |  |
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| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 22:06 - Mar 10 with 2003 views | Buhrer |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 19:20 - Mar 10 by Aviator |
Well I personally know about loads. Probably 20 people. |
Gotcha
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| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 22:22 - Mar 10 with 1983 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 20:49 - Mar 10 by J2BLUE |
Ahh so you're a pensioner and you just happen to know loads.
Of course you do. |
If Aviator is a pensoner and knows 20 people who are choosing a life on benefits then extrapolating:
12.6m pensioners in the UK each of whom know 20 people choosing a benefits lifestyle, so 252m such benefit claimants.
No wonder the 32m workers can't afford to pay.
That the UK populations is 68m is neither here nor there of course. |  |
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| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 22:41 - Mar 10 with 1968 views | Churchman |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 10:05 - Mar 10 by Mercian |
Utter tripe. I am out of work. I am well qualified, have good general experience and a good record. I served 22 years in The Army and left with the rank of Warrant Officer class 2 (Sergeant Major). I am 52 and have applied for many jobs even those below my level so to speak. I have to go to a partronising 5 hour group meeting in Derby once a week which is 14 miles away. They have a similar meeting in Nottingham which is only 8 miles away but as I live in Derbyshire I have to go to Derby. There have been no buses since the pandemic and I cannot afford to insure my car so I have to ask friends or family to take me. They tell me that employers do not descriminate against older people. When I pointed out to my 19 year old advisor that out of the 30 or so employees at the centre not one looked over 40 she just shruged it off. If you'e over 50 they don't want to know. Tell me, will cutting National Insurance benefit you? With respect attitudes like yours make me seeth. [Post edited 10 Mar 2024 10:19]
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Thank you for your post. I last looked for work in my early 40s. It was much harder than in my late 30s which was harder than 4 years before that to get a job. It was bl**dy hard and lonely too. I can only imagine how much more difficult it must be 10 years older than that.
Ageism is rife. It’s a default setting. A nod, a wink and b*gger off. Few employers want older people. It’s as simple as that. Yet this govt doesn’t believe it and isn’t the least bit interested. [Post edited 10 Mar 2024 22:43]
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| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 22:42 - Mar 10 with 1965 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 19:20 - Mar 10 by Aviator |
Well I personally know about loads. Probably 20 people. |
How do they live? Because UC is not great unless you are also working. |  | | |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 00:30 - Mar 11 with 1924 views | factual_blue |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 09:08 - Mar 10 by Aviator |
It’s ridiculous the number of working age people in the UK who refuse to work. Work needs to be more attractive and not working less attractive. This seems to be a step in the right direction. This is not just about benefits (although that is a major part of it). Early retirement is also a problem.
I’m pretty confident it is Labour policy to scrap NI as well, although they have not yet talked about in explicit terms. |
Astonishing to see that somebody thinks is merits an upvote in the face of all the evidence that it's drivel. | |
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| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 07:13 - Mar 11 with 1883 views | Churchman |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 00:30 - Mar 11 by factual_blue |
Astonishing to see that somebody thinks is merits an upvote in the face of all the evidence that it's drivel. |
My buddy reads the Daily Mail and believes most of what’s in that and he isn’t stupid. I guess it’s a case of keep repeating the lies and they’ll become the truth for some. | | | |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 08:06 - Mar 11 with 1837 views | Aviator |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 20:49 - Mar 10 by J2BLUE |
Ahh so you're a pensioner and you just happen to know loads.
Of course you do. |
No I’m not a pensioner. And I’m not talking about pensioners. I’m talking about people of working age who choose not to work. There are loads of them. I believe those people should be taxed the same as working people. Which is why NI should be merged with income tax. | | | |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 08:28 - Mar 11 with 1794 views | DJR |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 08:06 - Mar 11 by Aviator |
No I’m not a pensioner. And I’m not talking about pensioners. I’m talking about people of working age who choose not to work. There are loads of them. I believe those people should be taxed the same as working people. Which is why NI should be merged with income tax. |
It is still not clear what you are getting at. If it is people who don't work while children are young or older spouses who don't work because they don't have to, there will be no income to tax. And if it is people with sufficient means to leave the workforce in their late 50s or 60s, some may have pension income which with your proposal would affect, but I rather doubt that would be enough to bring them back into the workforce if they don't want to.
As it is, those with private pensions able to retire before state pension age on the basis of their private pensions will be an increasingly small number as time goes on, now that workplace pensions are increasingly going out of fashion. | | | |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 08:54 - Mar 11 with 1770 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 08:06 - Mar 11 by Aviator |
No I’m not a pensioner. And I’m not talking about pensioners. I’m talking about people of working age who choose not to work. There are loads of them. I believe those people should be taxed the same as working people. Which is why NI should be merged with income tax. |
Are you moaning about people who choose not to work because they are independently wealthy?! If so, they should certainly pay income tax at the usual rates and I see the argument for them paying NI or an equivalent too. | | | |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 09:40 - Mar 11 with 1738 views | leitrimblue |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 08:06 - Mar 11 by Aviator |
No I’m not a pensioner. And I’m not talking about pensioners. I’m talking about people of working age who choose not to work. There are loads of them. I believe those people should be taxed the same as working people. Which is why NI should be merged with income tax. |
I have a few friends who are choosing not to work. Actually their not choosing not to work their just too busy growing weed to work . Perhaps we should legalise it an tax their profits.. |  | | |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 15:27 - Mar 11 with 1678 views | factual_blue |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 07:13 - Mar 11 by Churchman |
My buddy reads the Daily Mail and believes most of what’s in that and he isn’t stupid. I guess it’s a case of keep repeating the lies and they’ll become the truth for some. |
That he reads it sort of compromises your assertion about him. | |
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| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 18:16 - Mar 11 with 1648 views | Churchman |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 15:27 - Mar 11 by factual_blue |
That he reads it sort of compromises your assertion about him. |
I agree. He’s a massive Brexiteer too and thought the government handled Covid well. Blames the Unions for state of the country. Will be voting tory of course and follows Chelsea (from pre rich days) and thinks top clubs B, C and youth teams should be allowed to compete in the lower leagues.
He’s my best mate and been so through thick and thin for decades.
He’s clued in on many things, has an MBA, had a good career, pretty clever, a do-er. But he has a closed mind when it comes to politics and some very strange views. Always has had. Tremendous opportunities for wind ups in theory, but the b’stard refuses to take the bait.
Thinks (wrongly) I’m somewhere well left of Corbyn which I play on shamelessly. It takes all sorts! | | | |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 18:24 - Mar 11 with 1633 views | noggin |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 18:16 - Mar 11 by Churchman |
I agree. He’s a massive Brexiteer too and thought the government handled Covid well. Blames the Unions for state of the country. Will be voting tory of course and follows Chelsea (from pre rich days) and thinks top clubs B, C and youth teams should be allowed to compete in the lower leagues.
He’s my best mate and been so through thick and thin for decades.
He’s clued in on many things, has an MBA, had a good career, pretty clever, a do-er. But he has a closed mind when it comes to politics and some very strange views. Always has had. Tremendous opportunities for wind ups in theory, but the b’stard refuses to take the bait.
Thinks (wrongly) I’m somewhere well left of Corbyn which I play on shamelessly. It takes all sorts! |
I bet he can't get a council house for his mum or an appointment with his GP, because of small boats. |  |
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| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 19:24 - Mar 11 with 1561 views | Churchman |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 18:24 - Mar 11 by noggin |
I bet he can't get a council house for his mum or an appointment with his GP, because of small boats. |
He bought his mum’s council house for her. She died 18 months later and he made £100k. The migrants: he’d sink all the boats mid channel or tow them to Dunkirk. Given his surname is very German oh the delicious irony!
He knows my opinion on flogging off assets we, as a people, already bought and paid for. Grrrr. We didn’t discuss it and still don’t.
Odd fact - my parents first house in the early 50s was one of the first ones built on the Chantry Estate in Hawthorn Drive. And my mother died in Asterbury Care Home, just off Hawthorn Drive. [Post edited 11 Mar 2024 19:32]
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| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 10:04 - Mar 12 with 1455 views | Mercian |
| Robin Hood took from the rich to feed the poor. on 19:22 - Mar 10 by Aviator |
Yes, but I’m not talking about people like you. You are clearly looking for work. |
Yes but there are many people like me. I am a young older person and only two of the 15 are younger than me. One man turns 65 in April and they ask/tell him he must work out a long term plan, he retires in 13 months. If they want to save money scrap these schemes. The Government has a 20% loss rate funding them. [Post edited 12 Mar 2024 10:08]
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