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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC 16:16 - Jun 4 with 2900 viewsgiant_stow

Is there any point in getting a refurbished gaming PC for the same money as an new xbox X?

My boy is obsessed by improving FPS and I gather gaming PCs can go well over 60 FPS, but can a gaming PC which costs £400-£500 do that?

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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 17:39 - Jun 4 with 2822 viewsLeithblue

almost certainly not, unless the refurbished gaming PC is an incredibly good second hand deal - have you got the spec? Consoles virtually always offer better price/performance trade-off than PCs
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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 21:08 - Jun 4 with 2740 viewsgiant_stow

Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 17:39 - Jun 4 by Leithblue

almost certainly not, unless the refurbished gaming PC is an incredibly good second hand deal - have you got the spec? Consoles virtually always offer better price/performance trade-off than PCs


No spec yet, I was just wondering whether its even possible, without knowing enough about required spec, really.

Many thanks for the answer.

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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 21:29 - Jun 4 with 2716 viewsitfckenty

In all honesty, it depends on what your lad wants it for (specific games) but the consoles are locked to certain FPS. personally I would recommend a steam deck, it's a handheld PC. Not as high spec, but overall really good. I think it averages 90.
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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 21:56 - Jun 4 with 2697 viewsgeg1992

I picked up a gaming PC with an RTX 3060 and i5-11400f off eBay for £300. Worth looking on there. It was second hand but is more powerful than either of the consoles and cost less.

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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 22:05 - Jun 4 with 2682 viewsblueasfook

The series x Xbox will do 120fps if you connect it to a TV that will support it. Plus supports other nice things like Dolby Vision, HDR, etc.

A PC for that money wouldn't give you that power. A good spec gaming PC now will cost you £3k plus

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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 22:12 - Jun 4 with 2650 viewsBugs

Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 22:05 - Jun 4 by blueasfook

The series x Xbox will do 120fps if you connect it to a TV that will support it. Plus supports other nice things like Dolby Vision, HDR, etc.

A PC for that money wouldn't give you that power. A good spec gaming PC now will cost you £3k plus


That's just not true. A £3K PC is a very, very high-end RTX 4090 PC with probably monitor included.
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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 22:14 - Jun 4 with 2640 viewsblueasfook

Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 22:12 - Jun 4 by Bugs

That's just not true. A £3K PC is a very, very high-end RTX 4090 PC with probably monitor included.


Yeah top end. But a pc for the price of a console isn't going to be up to much

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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 22:31 - Jun 4 with 2590 viewsmrfixit426

It's possible.



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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 22:34 - Jun 4 with 2566 viewsMJallday

Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 17:39 - Jun 4 by Leithblue

almost certainly not, unless the refurbished gaming PC is an incredibly good second hand deal - have you got the spec? Consoles virtually always offer better price/performance trade-off than PCs


Sorry I don’t agree

I bought a low level gaming pc with at 2080 gfx card in it for 500 quid last year. It runs GTA v at 120fps. Not the best but it works . It can be done

It is all about the gfx card. Then processor, ram and storage


A pc is a lot more flexible than a series x , but I know that a series x will run any game
I buy for it - albeit at a capped 60fps (for most games, you can go higher but games support for this is few)- pc - experience will vary depending on your spec

That’s the trade off

Edit - fwiw - I have both. I play on my series x every night . My pc - not so much - but that decision is based on the type of games I play and the friends I play with
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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 22:40 - Jun 4 with 2530 viewsfab_lover

Several issues here:

- firstly, the keyboard / mouse combination when playing FPS is much better than joystick based. Almost all "pro" e-gamers are on PCs;
- secondly, a PC is more than a console. It can/ should have uses for school, can be used to make or amend multimedia. More importantly, computer literacy is a valuable skill. Your son will quite probably use a PC when they work. They won't be using a console.

Get him to do some research. See what's out there for refurbished PCs. See how they can be upgraded.

Your son could / would gain useful knowledge when using a PC. Not so much for a console, if, quite frankly, at all.
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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 00:02 - Jun 5 with 2476 viewsKievthegreat

Needs more information.

What games is your son playing? If he plays things like Fortnite, valorant, Apex Legends, CSGO (basically eSports titles), then you don't need a super expensive rig as those games are highly optimised. If he plays Minecraft, then chasing FPS is just silly. As long as you're getting a smooth FPS near 60, there is very little benefit for the extra FPS.

What screen are you playing on? There's absolutely no point chasing 120+ FPS if you're on a screen which can't do above 60. Just because a PC or Xbox CAN generate over more than 60FPS, doesn't matter when your screen can only do 60 so do check this out before making any decision.

If you're willing to build it yourself, look up some tech channels on YouTube. Someone mentioned Jayz2Cents, but also check out Linus Tech Tips who have done videos on getting a gaming PC for £500.

Without knowing what games and what screens/TVs you have, it's hard to say if it will be worth it because theres a lot of variables.
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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 01:26 - Jun 5 with 2426 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Why does your son want higher frame rate? My understanding is that it is considered the key indicator of whether a particular Gaming PC will put you at a disadvantage against others online.

If that is the reason then he will always be at a disadvantage unless you spend £3k+ (and then he will want you to upgrade the graphics card every year or so!)

Whereas playing online on a console puts everyone on a more level playing field. Then monitor/TV latency and quality of internet connection will be potential performance blocks.

A gaming PC can also rip through video editing (and other highly performance tasks) so if that might be a factor now
or in the future then that could swing it.
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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 03:30 - Jun 5 with 2365 viewsMercian

You would do well to get a refurbished PC for that price to match the latest consoles. Look for an 8th Gen I7 8700 and a GTX 1080. Anything lower will struggle. A great advantage of a PC is game flexibility. An old game like Skyrim is still one of the most played games on PC and that is due to mods. You can mod on consoles but it is very limited.
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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 09:03 - Jun 5 with 2172 viewsLeithblue

Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 22:34 - Jun 4 by MJallday

Sorry I don’t agree

I bought a low level gaming pc with at 2080 gfx card in it for 500 quid last year. It runs GTA v at 120fps. Not the best but it works . It can be done

It is all about the gfx card. Then processor, ram and storage


A pc is a lot more flexible than a series x , but I know that a series x will run any game
I buy for it - albeit at a capped 60fps (for most games, you can go higher but games support for this is few)- pc - experience will vary depending on your spec

That’s the trade off

Edit - fwiw - I have both. I play on my series x every night . My pc - not so much - but that decision is based on the type of games I play and the friends I play with
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fair enough - an RTX 2080 is more powerful than Xbox series X and PS5, I hadn't realised you could get an entire PC for £500 given that the list price of the card is still around £230

also if Stow's son's target is high fps at all costs, presumably for competitive gaming, then a PC gives more flexibility than a console to turn down graphics settings and maximise the framerate
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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 09:43 - Jun 5 with 2141 viewsgiant_stow

Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 09:03 - Jun 5 by Leithblue

fair enough - an RTX 2080 is more powerful than Xbox series X and PS5, I hadn't realised you could get an entire PC for £500 given that the list price of the card is still around £230

also if Stow's son's target is high fps at all costs, presumably for competitive gaming, then a PC gives more flexibility than a console to turn down graphics settings and maximise the framerate


Sorry all, forgot to check for more replies! Thanks so much for all the comments.

He's currently on an old xbox one and at a playing standard where it's age / slowness is getting in the way. Meanwhile I struggle with the resulting gamer rage!

He plays Fortnite and Apex mainly. Top tip above on checking what his monitor can do, as we just bought a new one a month back. Another top tip is reminding me that PC is more than just for games (he has an ancient laptop donated, but its barely able to run word , so definitely worth thinking about)

I'll check some of specs above for prices and make a choice.

Thanks again all - appreciated

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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 09:44 - Jun 5 with 2133 viewsgiant_stow

Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 22:40 - Jun 4 by fab_lover

Several issues here:

- firstly, the keyboard / mouse combination when playing FPS is much better than joystick based. Almost all "pro" e-gamers are on PCs;
- secondly, a PC is more than a console. It can/ should have uses for school, can be used to make or amend multimedia. More importantly, computer literacy is a valuable skill. Your son will quite probably use a PC when they work. They won't be using a console.

Get him to do some research. See what's out there for refurbished PCs. See how they can be upgraded.

Your son could / would gain useful knowledge when using a PC. Not so much for a console, if, quite frankly, at all.


He wants to move to keyboard / mouse for this reason - cheers.
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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 10:23 - Jun 5 with 2064 viewsMJallday

Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 09:44 - Jun 5 by giant_stow

He wants to move to keyboard / mouse for this reason - cheers.
[Post edited 5 Jun 2024 9:52]


That may well be the deciding factor

Some games on series x do support KB and mouse but tbh it’s a bit few and far between
As for playing with friends , some games are cross platform - and you can use discord for chats / parties if not

Sounds like PC is the way to go.

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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 17:51 - Jun 5 with 1954 viewsMercian

Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 22:34 - Jun 4 by MJallday

Sorry I don’t agree

I bought a low level gaming pc with at 2080 gfx card in it for 500 quid last year. It runs GTA v at 120fps. Not the best but it works . It can be done

It is all about the gfx card. Then processor, ram and storage


A pc is a lot more flexible than a series x , but I know that a series x will run any game
I buy for it - albeit at a capped 60fps (for most games, you can go higher but games support for this is few)- pc - experience will vary depending on your spec

That’s the trade off

Edit - fwiw - I have both. I play on my series x every night . My pc - not so much - but that decision is based on the type of games I play and the friends I play with
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An RTX 280 is far from low level even for a card that is 2 generations old.
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Question for gamers re xbox series x vs gaming PC on 18:37 - Jun 5 with 1906 viewsWonky

Competitive gaming is about framerate not graphics. You usually want the settings to be low as possible not just to boost FPS (particularly Resolution) but because the more simple the shadows, lighting amount of foliage etc the easier it is to spot and targets enemies.

FPS is an advantage above 60 but tails off after 90ish as even a good gamer cannot react fast enough.

On the consoles it's kind of irrelevant as everyone has the same machine. If a game does have a 120fps mode you need a TV that can do that.

On the PC side again you don't need a beast as game settings will be set to low and games like Fortnite are usually undemanding.

You'll need a monitor that goes above 60fps with variable frame rate. Pretty much every gaming monitor does this.

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