| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 11:23 - Jun 16 with 7330 views | iamatractorboy |
Would be a better idea to give those tests to anyone planning to vote. |  | |  |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 11:39 - Jun 16 with 7280 views | DanTheMan |
Even without getting into whether either of the two are fine cognitively, I love quotes like this.
"He was the White House doctor, and he said I was the healthiest president, he feels, in history. So I liked him very much."
He's 78 and very obviously overweight. Compare him to Bush, Obama, Carter, and Ford when they became president and it's not even going to be close. And yet people lap this up and believe it, it's like a cult. I don't understand how people can be this invested in a politician... |  |
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| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 11:50 - Jun 16 with 7219 views | iamatractorboy |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 11:39 - Jun 16 by DanTheMan |
Even without getting into whether either of the two are fine cognitively, I love quotes like this.
"He was the White House doctor, and he said I was the healthiest president, he feels, in history. So I liked him very much."
He's 78 and very obviously overweight. Compare him to Bush, Obama, Carter, and Ford when they became president and it's not even going to be close. And yet people lap this up and believe it, it's like a cult. I don't understand how people can be this invested in a politician... |
Bizarre isn't it. It's not like he's remotely charismatic. I think a lot must just like that he says out loud, in public, what they are thinking, or express privately. All the horrible stuff, I mean. | | | |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 11:52 - Jun 16 with 7213 views | DJR |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 11:39 - Jun 16 by DanTheMan |
Even without getting into whether either of the two are fine cognitively, I love quotes like this.
"He was the White House doctor, and he said I was the healthiest president, he feels, in history. So I liked him very much."
He's 78 and very obviously overweight. Compare him to Bush, Obama, Carter, and Ford when they became president and it's not even going to be close. And yet people lap this up and believe it, it's like a cult. I don't understand how people can be this invested in a politician... |
I know there are now these articles highlighting the odd gaffe from Trump, but there is no evidence to me of his being a person who is physically or mentally impaired (apart from his policies).
The same can't be said of Biden who is clearly both mentally and physically impaired. [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 12:02]
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| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 12:15 - Jun 16 with 7104 views | J2BLUE |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 11:39 - Jun 16 by DanTheMan |
Even without getting into whether either of the two are fine cognitively, I love quotes like this.
"He was the White House doctor, and he said I was the healthiest president, he feels, in history. So I liked him very much."
He's 78 and very obviously overweight. Compare him to Bush, Obama, Carter, and Ford when they became president and it's not even going to be close. And yet people lap this up and believe it, it's like a cult. I don't understand how people can be this invested in a politician... |
They need to change the constitution and bring back Obama.
The world needs him. |  |
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| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 12:22 - Jun 16 with 7074 views | Blueschev |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 12:15 - Jun 16 by J2BLUE |
They need to change the constitution and bring back Obama.
The world needs him. |
Ask the people of Libya if they need him. Obama is a fine orator, but he was a lousy President. Being preferable to Bush or Trump doesn’t make you a good president. |  | | |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 12:28 - Jun 16 with 7040 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 11:52 - Jun 16 by DJR |
I know there are now these articles highlighting the odd gaffe from Trump, but there is no evidence to me of his being a person who is physically or mentally impaired (apart from his policies).
The same can't be said of Biden who is clearly both mentally and physically impaired. [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 12:02]
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Then there's a cognition test I might recommend. | | | |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 12:35 - Jun 16 with 7012 views | StokieBlue |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 11:52 - Jun 16 by DJR |
I know there are now these articles highlighting the odd gaffe from Trump, but there is no evidence to me of his being a person who is physically or mentally impaired (apart from his policies).
The same can't be said of Biden who is clearly both mentally and physically impaired. [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 12:02]
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That's an absolutely volcanic take.
Virtually everything that comes out of his mouth is deranged or a gaff. His speeches are rambling, incoherent and internally inconsistent.
SB [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 12:36]
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| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 12:58 - Jun 16 with 6878 views | JohnTy |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 12:35 - Jun 16 by StokieBlue |
That's an absolutely volcanic take.
Virtually everything that comes out of his mouth is deranged or a gaff. His speeches are rambling, incoherent and internally inconsistent.
SB [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 12:36]
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Trump's recent stuff on religion "such a great thing" and batteries, boats and sharks is clearly the mark of the self proclaimed stable genius he is.
Interesting that in February this year US historians ranked Biden as 14th best President, and Trump last. |  | | |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 13:04 - Jun 16 with 6823 views | BlueBadger |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 11:39 - Jun 16 by DanTheMan |
Even without getting into whether either of the two are fine cognitively, I love quotes like this.
"He was the White House doctor, and he said I was the healthiest president, he feels, in history. So I liked him very much."
He's 78 and very obviously overweight. Compare him to Bush, Obama, Carter, and Ford when they became president and it's not even going to be close. And yet people lap this up and believe it, it's like a cult. I don't understand how people can be this invested in a politician... |
If you didn't know, you'd definely say that Trump was older than Biden. |  |
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| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 13:07 - Jun 16 with 6806 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 13:04 - Jun 16 by BlueBadger |
If you didn't know, you'd definely say that Trump was older than Biden. |
...Actually, would you? Trump increasingly seems to have the brain of a child. | | | |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 13:37 - Jun 16 with 6735 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 11:52 - Jun 16 by DJR |
I know there are now these articles highlighting the odd gaffe from Trump, but there is no evidence to me of his being a person who is physically or mentally impaired (apart from his policies).
The same can't be said of Biden who is clearly both mentally and physically impaired. [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 12:02]
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It is astonishing that you don't see evidence that Trump is mentally impaired. In the (almost) eight years since he was elected to the presidency, I doubt that there has been a full seven day period when he hasn't given more such evidence.
Do you remember him suggesting that we could try injecting covid patients with lavatory cleaner? Or telling the world that stealth bombers are literally invisible? |  |
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| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 13:41 - Jun 16 with 6701 views | mutters |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 11:50 - Jun 16 by iamatractorboy |
Bizarre isn't it. It's not like he's remotely charismatic. I think a lot must just like that he says out loud, in public, what they are thinking, or express privately. All the horrible stuff, I mean. |
Charisma is subjective though.
But no he isn't. |  |
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| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:04 - Jun 16 with 6622 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 13:37 - Jun 16 by Tangledupin_Blue |
It is astonishing that you don't see evidence that Trump is mentally impaired. In the (almost) eight years since he was elected to the presidency, I doubt that there has been a full seven day period when he hasn't given more such evidence.
Do you remember him suggesting that we could try injecting covid patients with lavatory cleaner? Or telling the world that stealth bombers are literally invisible? |
No no, he was joking about disinfectant remember: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-he-was-being-sarcastic-
Because that was definitely the appropriate time to be breaking out his hilarious comedy routine, and this isn't at all a further sign of an infallibility complex or mental impairment. | | | |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:26 - Jun 16 with 6521 views | DJR |
I think that you are all missing the points that I was trying to make.
Firstly, that there appear to be an increasing number of articles which seem designed to effectively say Trump is no better cognitively than Biden.
Secondly, it is perfectly possible to have all one's faculties and have views or say things that are extreme, baseless or outrageous.
Of course, it may well be that Trump is a narcissist (I am no psychiatrist), but it seems to me that his primary purpose is to get himself elected, and to that extent he is prepared to say things, regardless of whether he believes them. [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 14:27]
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| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:27 - Jun 16 with 6494 views | StokieBlue |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:26 - Jun 16 by DJR |
I think that you are all missing the points that I was trying to make.
Firstly, that there appear to be an increasing number of articles which seem designed to effectively say Trump is no better cognitively than Biden.
Secondly, it is perfectly possible to have all one's faculties and have views or say things that are extreme, baseless or outrageous.
Of course, it may well be that Trump is a narcissist (I am no psychiatrist), but it seems to me that his primary purpose is to get himself elected, and to that extent he is prepared to say things, regardless of whether he believes them. [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 14:27]
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That's nothing like what you said though.
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| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:29 - Jun 16 with 6471 views | DJR |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:27 - Jun 16 by StokieBlue |
That's nothing like what you said though.
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If you read it carefully, I think you will see it is. It's just that I had to expand when people came back effectively saying extreme views are evidence of mental impairment. [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 14:30]
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| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:32 - Jun 16 with 6428 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:26 - Jun 16 by DJR |
I think that you are all missing the points that I was trying to make.
Firstly, that there appear to be an increasing number of articles which seem designed to effectively say Trump is no better cognitively than Biden.
Secondly, it is perfectly possible to have all one's faculties and have views or say things that are extreme, baseless or outrageous.
Of course, it may well be that Trump is a narcissist (I am no psychiatrist), but it seems to me that his primary purpose is to get himself elected, and to that extent he is prepared to say things, regardless of whether he believes them. [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 14:27]
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Yes, he is also a demonstrable liar, but your point would make sense if he'd have stopped gibbering insane nonsense once he got himself to the White House, but if anything it ramped up. | | | |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:34 - Jun 16 with 6411 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:29 - Jun 16 by DJR |
If you read it carefully, I think you will see it is. It's just that I had to expand when people came back effectively saying extreme views are evidence of mental impairment. [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 14:30]
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Extreme views aren't. Delusionality, conspiracy theorising and an infallibility complex are. | | | |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:38 - Jun 16 with 6339 views | StokieBlue |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:29 - Jun 16 by DJR |
If you read it carefully, I think you will see it is. It's just that I had to expand when people came back effectively saying extreme views are evidence of mental impairment. [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 14:30]
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Not sure it's great to claim that other posters aren't reading things properly when you had to write another entire post which isn't much like the first one to explain the original one.
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| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 15:03 - Jun 16 with 6236 views | DJR |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:34 - Jun 16 by FoghornGleghorn |
Extreme views aren't. Delusionality, conspiracy theorising and an infallibility complex are. |
The point though is that I am not aware that people questioned Trump's cognitive abilities when he was coming out with that sort of stuff as President, but they are now, and I don't think they would be were it not for the state of Biden. | | | |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 15:07 - Jun 16 with 6221 views | Mercian |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 11:50 - Jun 16 by iamatractorboy |
Bizarre isn't it. It's not like he's remotely charismatic. I think a lot must just like that he says out loud, in public, what they are thinking, or express privately. All the horrible stuff, I mean. |
I disagree about him not being charismatic even if it is of the nasty twisted type. He knows how to hold a crowd. |  | | |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 15:16 - Jun 16 with 6172 views | StokieBlue |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 15:03 - Jun 16 by DJR |
The point though is that I am not aware that people questioned Trump's cognitive abilities when he was coming out with that sort of stuff as President, but they are now, and I don't think they would be were it not for the state of Biden. |
I don't think that's the case at all.
People were questioning them before he even became President long before Biden came along.
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| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 15:54 - Jun 16 with 6052 views | DJR |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 15:16 - Jun 16 by StokieBlue |
I don't think that's the case at all.
People were questioning them before he even became President long before Biden came along.
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I will learn in future never to post on a Trump thread, but it seems to me that those who have responded to me have a different view of the meaning of cognitive ability, something I didn't anticipate. As it is, in my initial post I actually used the term mental impairment as an alternative but I did so because I also included the word physical.
Cognitive ability declines with age, but it does so at different rates in different people.
I think you would have to blind or blinkered not to notice such a decline in Biden (he also shows physical decline), but from my point of view I see no evidence of the same thing happening in Trump, or even if it is, to anything like the same extent as Biden, which is all I was trying to say.
Of course, in the speech he mixed up Ronny Johnson with Ronny Jackson (something Biden's rapid response team jumped on and made the main headlines in the Guardian), but I am 14 years younger than Trump and occasionally do the same thing. That doesn't mean I lack cognitive ability. [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 16:16]
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| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 15:59 - Jun 16 with 6019 views | DJR |
| Trump challenges Biden to a cognitive test on 14:32 - Jun 16 by FoghornGleghorn |
Yes, he is also a demonstrable liar, but your point would make sense if he'd have stopped gibbering insane nonsense once he got himself to the White House, but if anything it ramped up. |
Carrying on with that nonsense would have been part of his strategy to get re-elected back in 2020, although it didn't work. [Post edited 16 Jun 2024 16:07]
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