| Constitutional Question 10:18 - Jun 28 with 1644 views | GeoffSentence |
In our system the second biggest party is his majesty's official opposition, which gives them a more privileged position than the remaiing opposition parties, having the biggest chunk of PMQs for instance.
Can the opposition, or has it ever, changed during a parliament?
For instance if party A won a majority and party B had the next biggest number of seats, but not s many as party C and D combined. What would happen if during the course of the parliament parties C and D merged to become bigger than party B. Or alternatively, it was close between party B and C and through by-elections party C eventually got a larger representation in the HoC? |  |
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| Constitutional Question on 10:27 - Jun 28 with 1573 views | ElephantintheRoom |
That very nearly happened after the Brexit referendum when May effectively lost her majority and bribed some Irish politicians to prop her up. There were enough sane Conservative MPs back then to vote with the opposition and create a government of national unity - which would have happened but for Corbyn.
That would effectively have been proportional representation for a giddy few years. Brexit would have been reversed, the economy would have been far stronger - and Nige would be apoplectic.
You also now get the absurdity of the rabid jocks being the second party of opposition sounding off at every opportunity - with not a huge number of votes Or relevance ina UK Parliament |  |
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| Constitutional Question on 10:28 - Jun 28 with 1576 views | Gogs |
I’ve wondered much the same. Also who forms the opposition if parties B&C get the same number of seats? |  | | |
| Constitutional Question on 10:28 - Jun 28 with 1575 views | JohnTy |
The only person qualified to answer this highly hypothetical question is Norman St John-Stevas, Lord St John of Fawsley, but he is no longer with us. [Post edited 28 Jun 2024 10:29]
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| Constitutional Question on 10:33 - Jun 28 with 1537 views | Pencilpete |
| Constitutional Question on 10:28 - Jun 28 by JohnTy |
The only person qualified to answer this highly hypothetical question is Norman St John-Stevas, Lord St John of Fawsley, but he is no longer with us. [Post edited 28 Jun 2024 10:29]
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The last poll i read last night had the following projection:
Labour 451
Lib Dems 70
Conservates 62
SNP 28
Reform 18
I don't think any of them have anywhere near enough seats to call themselves a credible opposition if i'm honest | | | |
| Constitutional Question on 10:37 - Jun 28 with 1510 views | Keno |
| Constitutional Question on 10:33 - Jun 28 by Pencilpete |
The last poll i read last night had the following projection:
Labour 451
Lib Dems 70
Conservates 62
SNP 28
Reform 18
I don't think any of them have anywhere near enough seats to call themselves a credible opposition if i'm honest |
feck me, thats would be a disaster wouldnt it and would show what a dreadful the country and the electorate is in
reform 18 seats!!! |  |
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| Constitutional Question on 10:39 - Jun 28 with 1499 views | JohnTy |
| Constitutional Question on 10:33 - Jun 28 by Pencilpete |
The last poll i read last night had the following projection:
Labour 451
Lib Dems 70
Conservates 62
SNP 28
Reform 18
I don't think any of them have anywhere near enough seats to call themselves a credible opposition if i'm honest |
Because we have a multi-party political system fighting under a FPTP electoral system.
There will be a Leader of the Opposition, and he/she will get an additional salary. | | | |
| Constitutional Question on 10:45 - Jun 28 with 1453 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Constitutional Question on 10:37 - Jun 28 by Keno |
feck me, thats would be a disaster wouldnt it and would show what a dreadful the country and the electorate is in
reform 18 seats!!! |
I can see why there has been a LibDem surge. Ed Davey is going above and beyond to get people to vote for them.
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| Constitutional Question (n/t) on 10:46 - Jun 28 with 1446 views | NthYorkshireBlue |
| Constitutional Question on 10:28 - Jun 28 by Gogs |
I’ve wondered much the same. Also who forms the opposition if parties B&C get the same number of seats? |
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| Constitutional Question on 10:48 - Jun 28 with 1424 views | Pencilpete |
| Constitutional Question on 10:39 - Jun 28 by JohnTy |
Because we have a multi-party political system fighting under a FPTP electoral system.
There will be a Leader of the Opposition, and he/she will get an additional salary. |
I wouldn't be surprised if it's Farage - if the Tories get wiped out to the extent they look like being i can see them and reform merging ...... Most of Farage's ideas are basically 'Conservate' ideas just pushed to the absolute extreme ... you might find he tones them down, they merge and he leads the conservatives in opposition | | | |
| Constitutional Question on 10:52 - Jun 28 with 1409 views | Help |
| Constitutional Question on 10:45 - Jun 28 by GlasgowBlue |
I can see why there has been a LibDem surge. Ed Davey is going above and beyond to get people to vote for them.
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Gets my vote |  |
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| Constitutional Question on 10:55 - Jun 28 with 1398 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Constitutional Question on 10:45 - Jun 28 by GlasgowBlue |
I can see why there has been a LibDem surge. Ed Davey is going above and beyond to get people to vote for them.
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How did Ed pull Shiv from Succession? I always thought she would keep her jacket on. | | | |
| Constitutional Question on 13:49 - Jun 28 with 1293 views | factual_blue |
The official opposition is always the second largest party in the Commons. Since the 1937 Ministers of the Crown Act, that principle is enshrined in law. |  |
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| Constitutional Question on 15:32 - Jun 28 with 1223 views | GeoffSentence |
| Constitutional Question on 13:49 - Jun 28 by factual_blue |
The official opposition is always the second largest party in the Commons. Since the 1937 Ministers of the Crown Act, that principle is enshrined in law. |
So in the polling scenario posted above, we could start with LibDemsasthe opposition and should reform and conservatives merge to become the ReCons or FormAtives or whatever, they'd take over as the official opposition. | |
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| Constitutional Question on 15:36 - Jun 28 with 1199 views | factual_blue |
| Constitutional Question on 15:32 - Jun 28 by GeoffSentence |
So in the polling scenario posted above, we could start with LibDemsasthe opposition and should reform and conservatives merge to become the ReCons or FormAtives or whatever, they'd take over as the official opposition. |
In pure theory, yes. In reality the chances of any of that happening are pretty remote. | |
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| Constitutional Question on 16:23 - Jun 28 with 1146 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Constitutional Question on 15:32 - Jun 28 by GeoffSentence |
So in the polling scenario posted above, we could start with LibDemsasthe opposition and should reform and conservatives merge to become the ReCons or FormAtives or whatever, they'd take over as the official opposition. |
Any merger between those two parties and the new body would surely be named Conform. |  |
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| Constitutional Question on 16:58 - Jun 28 with 1104 views | MattinLondon |
| Constitutional Question on 16:23 - Jun 28 by You_Bloo_Right |
Any merger between those two parties and the new body would surely be named Conform. |
If they were to merge, wouldn’t some moderate MPs leave the conservatives? |  | | |
| Constitutional Question on 17:39 - Jun 28 with 990 views | Eiffel78 |
There was a massive change in both government and opposition in 1916 when the Liberals split and the Conservatives joined a coalition government. Lloyd George's Liberals remained in government, the Conservatives went from being the opposition to government, and Asquith's Liberals went from government to opposition, all without an election. Not exactly what you're looking for, but it shows that kind of change is possible. |  | | |
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