| Nige handing out the big jobs... 21:36 - Jul 11 with 5394 views | Zx1988 |
30p Lee now in charge of the two Reform MPs who don't outrank him. The political equivalent of a patio door on a submarine. |  |
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| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 14:22 - Jul 12 with 614 views | Buhrer |
| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 11:21 - Jul 12 by Freddies_Ears |
The Greens don't have one for their 4 MPs... |
Instead of a whip the Greens have a stick of celery, whips being historically used to oppress our animal friends. |  | | |
| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 14:27 - Jul 12 with 593 views | Pencilpete |
| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 14:00 - Jul 12 by Ewan_Oozami |
Here's a question, what actually do you think a racist person is, what behaviour do you think they would exhibit? |
"prejudice, discrimination or antagonism by an individual or individuals against another person or people on the basis of their membership or a particular race or ethnic group"
that is open to open to interpretation so i will give some examples and my opinion (I would welcome yours)
- only searching muslims for knives - RACIST
- only searching muslims for knives when you're looking for a Muslim Suspect - NOT RACIST
- someone who kept slaves - RACIST
- someone who lives 200 years after slavery was abolished and doesn't want to apologise for slavery happening because they didn't do it and live in a completely different era - NOT RACIST
- Not employing a black person who is the best person for the job - RACIST
- Not employing a black person because they arn't the best person for the job - NOT RACIST
Flying the Union Jack - NOT RACIST | | | |
| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 14:36 - Jul 12 with 572 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 11:10 - Jul 12 by Pencilpete |
That's what politicians do tho isn't it ? they just change names of things and rebrand etc and hope people .... like some on here .... swallow it
I'm not going to "Post a link where it says they're making illegal immigration legal" you just arn't listening and don't want to listen .... just cos that isn't what it says word for word ... that doesn't mean that's what's happening.
go online and look up the definition of illegal ..... if you're going to be allowed to apply to stay having come 'illegally' then it isn't fcuking illegal is it ? Like i said it's like robbing a bank and being allowed to keep the money.
whether you think it should be allowed or not allowed etc is a different argument but for this argument they've literally 'solved' the issue of illegal immigration by effectively making it legal and it's just going to encourage more people to get in these small boats and try their luck doing a dangerous journey across the channel because they know they'll have a chance of staying |
You are almost there with this post.
Refer to your 3rd paragraph. Anybody is "allowed to apply to stay" (as you put it) and has been so allowed since as long ago as 1948; it is the law. And you are right with your next sentence that, this being the case, it is not illegal.
Seeking asylum is a right that we all have and it is not illegal even if the application is spurious.
So you can see thst, with regard to the people crossing the channel on small boats, the term 'illegal immigrant' is a misnomer. It is not illegal to enter a country with the intention of seeking asylum.
The Labour Government has not; as you say, "made it legal" because it was already legal despite the attempts by the previous government and others to persuade us otherwise. |  |
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| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 14:44 - Jul 12 with 554 views | Pencilpete |
| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 14:36 - Jul 12 by Tangledupin_Blue |
You are almost there with this post.
Refer to your 3rd paragraph. Anybody is "allowed to apply to stay" (as you put it) and has been so allowed since as long ago as 1948; it is the law. And you are right with your next sentence that, this being the case, it is not illegal.
Seeking asylum is a right that we all have and it is not illegal even if the application is spurious.
So you can see thst, with regard to the people crossing the channel on small boats, the term 'illegal immigrant' is a misnomer. It is not illegal to enter a country with the intention of seeking asylum.
The Labour Government has not; as you say, "made it legal" because it was already legal despite the attempts by the previous government and others to persuade us otherwise. |
It's not illegal to apply i didn't say it was - the illegal bit (according to the illegal immigration act) is their continuance to reside in the country having had their applications rejected ....
which in a previous post (not by me) it was pointed out that they stay here even after being refused and we can't get them out
It's worth pointing out that they are also considered illegal (in the eyes of the law) until they have had their cases heard hence those who are coming in on the boats are referred to as illegal immigrants. | | | |
| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 14:58 - Jul 12 with 526 views | Blueschev |
| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 14:44 - Jul 12 by Pencilpete |
It's not illegal to apply i didn't say it was - the illegal bit (according to the illegal immigration act) is their continuance to reside in the country having had their applications rejected ....
which in a previous post (not by me) it was pointed out that they stay here even after being refused and we can't get them out
It's worth pointing out that they are also considered illegal (in the eyes of the law) until they have had their cases heard hence those who are coming in on the boats are referred to as illegal immigrants. |
Your third paragraph is simply untrue. |  | | |
| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 15:04 - Jul 12 with 513 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 14:44 - Jul 12 by Pencilpete |
It's not illegal to apply i didn't say it was - the illegal bit (according to the illegal immigration act) is their continuance to reside in the country having had their applications rejected ....
which in a previous post (not by me) it was pointed out that they stay here even after being refused and we can't get them out
It's worth pointing out that they are also considered illegal (in the eyes of the law) until they have had their cases heard hence those who are coming in on the boats are referred to as illegal immigrants. |
You didn't' say that it was 'illegal to apply' but you said that the new government had 'made it legal' so the implication is obvious.
The 'Illegal Immigration Act' is in direct contradiction of our international obligations under human rights treaties and, if tested in court, would fail unless we chose to become a pariah state.
I accept that once an asylum application has failed (along with appeals) then the applicant should be deported.
Regardless of how they are 'considered' or 'referred to' the asylum seekers have the right, enshrined in law, to enter the country and make their application. | |
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| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 23:13 - Jul 12 with 390 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 12:16 - Jul 12 by Pencilpete |
I'm pretty sure all parties attract unsavoury characters - the greens for example had to stand several down too and Labour openly admit they had a massive anti-semetic issue just a few years ago under Corbyn so yes while Reform do have those issues it's not exclusive to them and i didn't see anyone calling Labour a racist organisation 5 years ago.
I've never seen Farage say anything racist and i have heard him say people with those opinions are not welcome in his party and never will be. Which again, is more than Corbyn said !! |
So Farage in front of the poster with a long line of non white people stoking immigration lies wasn't racist? Farage singing nazi songs in his youth wasn't racist?
He is a lying egotistical scumbag who only cares about himself. That is obvious to most people.
Hitler got plenty of votes |  | | |
| Nige handing out the big jobs... on 06:52 - Jul 13 with 319 views | GeoffSentence |
Chief whips get extra cash, supposedly because their duties are too onerous for them to have a second job. Can't see 30p with his 2 mps being overburdened. I put this down as bit of grifting.
Edit: actually I think it's only the official opposition chief whip that gets the cash. [Post edited 13 Jul 2024 6:56]
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