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These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 20:26 - Aug 7 by britbiker
I think that why this is getting out of hand. Anyone who wants to discuss equal treatment seems to get shut down by governments and or press. That then just allows the far right and keyboard cowards to string in thugs and the disillusioned.
I see one of the first to be sentenced said he has let his family down. Turns out he has about sixteen other offences already.
You make a very valid point and this is EXACTLY what fuelled those fecking brain dead imbeciles with their B&M flags
There is absolutely a need to look at immigration as a grown up who isn't either scared and or emotionally or finically shackled to their job, be that police or politician.
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 20:31 - Aug 7 by redrickstuhaart
It is absolutely dogwhistling. Stirring up Suella's two tier policing nonsense, by comparing an apple with a fecking Kumquat.
For the benefit of me, who clearly doesn’t understand this… how is a man punching a policeman that different to a man punching a policewomen that it’s caused you to get so rattled?
As clearly said, both deserved their punishments, so I’m sticking up for neither, I just don’t see how the two differ so vastly that the current situation on both differ so vastly.
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 20:37 - Aug 7 by Lamp
It’s the same with a few of the others as well. Must have been an easy job for the local forces to collar them as they pretty much knew where they lived anyway!
Likely knew they’d be out anyway, logged in various social media accounts, and watched it play out.
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 19:59 - Aug 7 by textbackup
I still can’t get get my head around a bloke getting an instant 3 years for punching a policeman, and matey that did the same in Manchester airport yet to even be charged 😂
Unless I’m missing something obvious, it’s the same crime, right?!
(For clarity BOTH deserve jail time for horrible behaviours)
I think he got 2 months for punching the policeman.
The rest was for other rioty-shaped offences.
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These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 21:30 - Aug 7 with 1526 views
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 20:54 - Aug 7 by textbackup
For the benefit of me, who clearly doesn’t understand this… how is a man punching a policeman that different to a man punching a policewomen that it’s caused you to get so rattled?
As clearly said, both deserved their punishments, so I’m sticking up for neither, I just don’t see how the two differ so vastly that the current situation on both differ so vastly.
What?
Complete non sequitur.
You are trying to make this stupid two tier policing argument, based on very very different things. By being deliberately narrow and selective. Its Farage-esque.
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These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 21:36 - Aug 7 with 1511 views
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 21:30 - Aug 7 by redrickstuhaart
What?
Complete non sequitur.
You are trying to make this stupid two tier policing argument, based on very very different things. By being deliberately narrow and selective. Its Farage-esque.
On another note, something is concerning me. I know the govt has to crack down when unrest seems to be spreading across the country, but there was a BBC documentary earlier this year about how long victims of some serious crimes (rape, ABH etc) were having to wait to see their attackers in court. Some cases were even being dropped as so much time had elapsed.
But now, hey presto, courts can sit through the night and people are being arrested, charged and jailed within 48 hours
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 21:36 - Aug 7 by Bobbychase
On another note, something is concerning me. I know the govt has to crack down when unrest seems to be spreading across the country, but there was a BBC documentary earlier this year about how long victims of some serious crimes (rape, ABH etc) were having to wait to see their attackers in court. Some cases were even being dropped as so much time had elapsed.
But now, hey presto, courts can sit through the night and people are being arrested, charged and jailed within 48 hours
Courts dont sit through the night.
But if there is clear video, and the bloke pleads guilty in the hope of a lenient sentence, that can be fast tracked. There is clearly a public interest in getting these fast tracked- and that is a decision swhich has been taken.
Serious cases are often very difficult and messy resources and timing wise. And of course, there is a massive backlog though cuts.
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These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 21:55 - Aug 7 with 1420 views
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 21:49 - Aug 7 by redrickstuhaart
Courts dont sit through the night.
But if there is clear video, and the bloke pleads guilty in the hope of a lenient sentence, that can be fast tracked. There is clearly a public interest in getting these fast tracked- and that is a decision swhich has been taken.
Serious cases are often very difficult and messy resources and timing wise. And of course, there is a massive backlog though cuts.
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 21:49 - Aug 7 by redrickstuhaart
Courts dont sit through the night.
But if there is clear video, and the bloke pleads guilty in the hope of a lenient sentence, that can be fast tracked. There is clearly a public interest in getting these fast tracked- and that is a decision swhich has been taken.
Serious cases are often very difficult and messy resources and timing wise. And of course, there is a massive backlog though cuts.
I can accept there has been, at times this week, the threat of serious unrest spreading across the country and getting out of control. So you need a visible deterrent. But if I was a rape victim three years on from the offence waiting to see the perpetrator in court and the reason given was lack of funding, but suddenly we can find 6,000 extra police - i'd feel cheated.
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 22:02 - Aug 7 by Bobbychase
I can accept there has been, at times this week, the threat of serious unrest spreading across the country and getting out of control. So you need a visible deterrent. But if I was a rape victim three years on from the offence waiting to see the perpetrator in court and the reason given was lack of funding, but suddenly we can find 6,000 extra police - i'd feel cheated.
Its not generally about police numbers. But you would absolutely be right to feel cheated. But that is not really about this situation, but about much longer term, wide deeper issues.
Much easier to slot someone in for an hour's sentencing hearing than a 3 week rape trial at a time when all relevant parties are available and there is capacity in terms of prosecutors etc.
Either way the backlog in courts (not just crime by the way) is appalling.
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These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 22:08 - Aug 7 with 1328 views
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 21:49 - Aug 7 by redrickstuhaart
Courts dont sit through the night.
But if there is clear video, and the bloke pleads guilty in the hope of a lenient sentence, that can be fast tracked. There is clearly a public interest in getting these fast tracked- and that is a decision swhich has been taken.
Serious cases are often very difficult and messy resources and timing wise. And of course, there is a massive backlog though cuts.
didn't they sit at night in 2011? or have i imagined that.
in any case, quick stiff sentences, better organised police, and peaceful orderly opposition seems to have done for the thugs tonight.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 22:27 - Aug 7 with 1258 views
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 21:30 - Aug 7 by redrickstuhaart
What?
Complete non sequitur.
You are trying to make this stupid two tier policing argument, based on very very different things. By being deliberately narrow and selective. Its Farage-esque.
😂😂😂😂 Brilliant, so you don’t know either then.
That’s all you had to say, I thought I was missing something seriously obvious, but it’s absolutely purely just you getting ants in your pants.
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 21:49 - Aug 7 by redrickstuhaart
Courts dont sit through the night.
But if there is clear video, and the bloke pleads guilty in the hope of a lenient sentence, that can be fast tracked. There is clearly a public interest in getting these fast tracked- and that is a decision swhich has been taken.
Serious cases are often very difficult and messy resources and timing wise. And of course, there is a massive backlog though cuts.
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 21:36 - Aug 7 by Bobbychase
On another note, something is concerning me. I know the govt has to crack down when unrest seems to be spreading across the country, but there was a BBC documentary earlier this year about how long victims of some serious crimes (rape, ABH etc) were having to wait to see their attackers in court. Some cases were even being dropped as so much time had elapsed.
But now, hey presto, courts can sit through the night and people are being arrested, charged and jailed within 48 hours
Absolutely!
And I read, with the prisons being full and all, that they are releasing some to make room (as was talked about on here previously) and I was told (on here) it was only low level prisoners getting released early… one lady reports her sons murdered is to be released after not even serving half of the sentence.
Again, I’m all for this rioters being brought to justice… might be worth considering who they let out to free up room though.
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 22:02 - Aug 7 by Bobbychase
I can accept there has been, at times this week, the threat of serious unrest spreading across the country and getting out of control. So you need a visible deterrent. But if I was a rape victim three years on from the offence waiting to see the perpetrator in court and the reason given was lack of funding, but suddenly we can find 6,000 extra police - i'd feel cheated.
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“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 19:17 - Aug 7 by Lord_Lucan
Not definite info but I reckon it’s over.
It looks like any arrest is instant remand, that combined with the fact that the muzzies are coming out mob handed and tooled up.
These flag waving toothless misfits are cowards, they will only turn up if they greatly outnumber the opposition. No way would they go toe to toe with a mob like that lot in Birmingham last night.
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Ironic that it's the non-racists taking back control of their country.
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 22:33 - Aug 7 by textbackup
Absolutely!
And I read, with the prisons being full and all, that they are releasing some to make room (as was talked about on here previously) and I was told (on here) it was only low level prisoners getting released early… one lady reports her sons murdered is to be released after not even serving half of the sentence.
Again, I’m all for this rioters being brought to justice… might be worth considering who they let out to free up room though.
More stuff from twitter?
Tommy perhaps?
Offer some verifiable facts?
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These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 23:26 - Aug 7 with 1068 views
These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 20:07 - Aug 7 by textbackup
Course it is.
No denying they deserve punishment, but they certainly know who they can hit the hardest/quickest.
They have expedited these rioters' cases in an attempt to halt the violent unrest, this fascist tour of Britain. Lucan's suggested it will succeed, which would vindicate the courts' urgency in processing these people when capacity shouldn't allow for it. The thugs at the airport were individuals reacting to a family incident. Even if you feel they reflect a particular problem with lawlessness in a section of our society, they do not consider themselves part of a national movement and were quick to distance themselves from the unrest which the first video caused. From what I've heard anecdotally, I believe there are many eventually-to-be criminals roaming free at the moment and with serious charges looming over them, on account of crazy backlogs in the system and lack of prison space.
It appears true that the police have handled the far-right disorder differently to that committed by the Roma community in Harehills recently. I would speculate a combination of reasons for this. 1) That disorder was unplanned, so no police preparation or intelligence to help inform their response. 2) The police are well-versed in dealing with far-right disorder. They probably feel the levels of aggression and violence are quite predictable normally, with armed police not required. The same risk assessments maybe can't be made for when havoc breaks out among other communities.
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These noddies planning to riot at the end of my street on 08:42 - Aug 8 with 737 views
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