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Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people 19:02 - Aug 21 with 10851 viewsghostofescobar

Tragically die in a boating related incident (and I appreciate a black man too) in Italy, which is terrible beyond words, genuinely shocking, and I do mean that, and there is wall to wall press coverage, which I kinda get. Last month, four migrants drowned trying to get across the English Channel in a single incident. And………..not quite the same level of press coverage, was there? Why is that? Guess they are worth less. It troubles me. Really troubles me. Maybe I’m too woke, so await the brickbats.

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Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 14:58 - Aug 22 with 1030 viewsBlueschev

Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 14:52 - Aug 22 by blueasfook

Protection for gangs, clubs and nations
Causing grief in human relations
It's a turf war on a global scale
I'd rather hear both sides of the tale
See, it's not about races
Just places, faces
Where your blood comes from is where your space is
I've seen the bright get duller
I'm not going to spend my life being a color


If you're thinkin' about my baby it don't matter if you're black or white.
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Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 15:09 - Aug 22 with 997 viewsWeWereZombies

Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 14:49 - Aug 22 by Asa

I have said it before and I will say it constantly for the rest of my life.

The one thing every person on this planet has in common is that we had absolutely ZERO input into who were were born as.

I could have been born rich or poor, male or female, black or white, with or without a disability, being attracted to men, women, neither or both. I have and always will find it incredible that anybody can ever claim to be worth more than anyone else with this in mind, given that, as much as you have some individual power to improve the factors in your life you can control, you can still be bound by these circumstances. You can achieve far more in life born into a manor in the English countryside than into poverty in an Indian village or Brazilian favella.

We all know why this isn't absolutely drummed into every person in the world, nor why some people would want to hear it or some people care to hear it and there are a million factors that distort this all, media coverage in itself has its own agenda.

But anyone who thinks that they are worth more than any other human being by default or outside their actions is absolutely deluded.

I'm a white, straight, male in my 40's born in England and I had most things I wanted growing up. I've never had any form of sexism, racism, homophobia or discrimination to worry about or suffer and these injustices wind me right up.

Can only image how more than half the planet feels in the face of these ridiculous obstacles that society has created for them and the attitudes that some people still have towards anyone that is different.


John Rawls' veil of ignorance thought experiment, innit ?

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Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 18:20 - Aug 22 with 931 viewslurcher

Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 14:20 - Aug 22 by WeWereZombies

Yep, you're right. It was a sound wave and not a wave on the water. But then I understand that a water spout is actually a column of air. So why isn't it called an air spout ?


Tornado over water
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Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 18:25 - Aug 22 with 929 viewslurcher

Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 14:30 - Aug 22 by Ryorry

CIL - you’re back!

Only kidding.

Bit much to contemplate 21 people killed as “collateral damage” for the 22nd though (or is it 22 for the 23rd, sadly).


They were all celebrating Lynch winning the court case in the US, it was a statement.
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Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 10:08 - Aug 24 with 811 viewsRyorry

Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 13:20 - Aug 22 by lurcher

But there is a much bigger story here. His codefendant in the HP - Autonomy purchase case was killed by a car at the weekend. Coincidence, highly unlikely?


Looks like you may be right - the Italian public prosecutor certainly agrees with you anyway, has now raised a case for‘shipwreck’ and manslaughter.

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Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 10:12 - Aug 24 with 809 viewsblueasfook

Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 14:58 - Aug 22 by Blueschev

If you're thinkin' about my baby it don't matter if you're black or white.


Hee heeeeee

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Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 10:14 - Aug 24 with 803 viewsWeWereZombies

Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 10:08 - Aug 24 by Ryorry

Looks like you may be right - the Italian public prosecutor certainly agrees with you anyway, has now raised a case for‘shipwreck’ and manslaughter.


Sounds like a case for Montalbano.

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Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 10:18 - Aug 24 with 792 viewsmrshallisfit

Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 19:10 - Aug 21 by pointofblue

I understand what you mean, but news is also about the new. As horrible as it is to say, people drowning in the channel is a devastating regular occurrence. From memory, there was a run of news last summer with an update on how many people had died in the channel each day, which was heart-breaking, but the exposure also led to a level of desensitisation from the public, which then was twisted to the Stop the Boats debate.

It's the same with the War in Ukraine and the Gaza war - when both started there was live updates on the BBC News site. Now, we maybe get an article a day, and this won't change unless something big happens (hopefully a truce in both cases). Again, it is a case of desensitisation.


Didn't see the Daily Mail or Express eulogising about any of the 40,000 dead in Gaza or any of the small boat victims.
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Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 12:50 - Aug 24 with 737 viewsstonojnr

Going to stick my head above the parapet here, but some rich white people on 10:08 - Aug 24 by Ryorry

Looks like you may be right - the Italian public prosecutor certainly agrees with you anyway, has now raised a case for‘shipwreck’ and manslaughter.


Italian law is very different to UK law in that respect though dealing with unexplained deaths, they tend to treat it as crime and look for someone to be legally responsible for causing it. whilst we'd probably just let a coroners court deal with it and file it as death by misadventure, unless there was concrete evidence of neglicence

its why deaths like Senna ended up as a criminal trial, rather than just a tragic crash.

so I wouldnt read into that they believe there was criminal intent behind it
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