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Huw Edwards 11:58 - Sep 16 with 20112 viewsZx1988

Reading the coverage of his sentencing, his legal team seem to be making very heavy weather of the fact that his character etc., should count in his favour.

Surely his apparent character and position should count against him, no? Being a trusted public figure such as he was, should he not be held to even higher standards than us mere mortals?

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Huw Edwards on 09:13 - Sep 17 with 2103 viewspositivity

Huw Edwards on 08:59 - Sep 17 by textbackup

Should have just dropped me a DM to invited me for a beer pre match to discuss this really. But then, I guess that would take actual guts as opposed to tapping a keyboard.

You’ve clearly been holding this in for a long time. I hope you are ok mr positive


i'm absolutely fine thanks, people have taken time to help you understand, i just wish you'd taken the time to read them. if you don't take that on board, i fail to see how the addition of beer is going to help!

next time, do some reading first (not on social media!) before lashing out at the nearest bogeyman

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Huw Edwards on 09:15 - Sep 17 with 2041 viewstextbackup

Huw Edwards on 09:13 - Sep 17 by positivity

i'm absolutely fine thanks, people have taken time to help you understand, i just wish you'd taken the time to read them. if you don't take that on board, i fail to see how the addition of beer is going to help!

next time, do some reading first (not on social media!) before lashing out at the nearest bogeyman


I’ve read it, and digested it, and understand.

Was pointing out you’ve clearly got a problem with me from months ago, you should have just let it out, would have been good for you to get it off your chest.

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Huw Edwards on 09:47 - Sep 17 with 1992 viewspositivity

Huw Edwards on 09:15 - Sep 17 by textbackup

I’ve read it, and digested it, and understand.

Was pointing out you’ve clearly got a problem with me from months ago, you should have just let it out, would have been good for you to get it off your chest.


i've no problem with you, only your knee-jerk views when you lash out at the wrong targets

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Huw Edwards on 10:49 - Sep 17 with 1925 viewsDave_Buh

The sentence is just another example of how mad the world has gone. If you knowingly purchase images of a child being abused then there is no place for you in society. You don’t deserve to be rehabilitated, you don’t deserve to live and no further time should be wasted on the individual. Anyone arguing to the contrary is part of the problem, not the solution.
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Huw Edwards on 11:15 - Sep 17 with 1841 viewsElephantintheRoom

Huw Edwards on 12:33 - Sep 16 by GlasgowBlue

Paid for 41 images of children, some between 7 and 9 years old, showing penetration.

Much worse than we were originally led to believe. Surely that deserves jail time?


Could have been research. Who knows?

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Huw Edwards on 11:33 - Sep 17 with 1815 viewsleitrimblue

Huw Edwards on 11:15 - Sep 17 by ElephantintheRoom

Could have been research. Who knows?


Fair enough Mr Townshend
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Huw Edwards on 11:52 - Sep 17 with 1769 viewspositivity

Huw Edwards on 11:33 - Sep 17 by leitrimblue

Fair enough Mr Townshend


who?

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Huw Edwards on 11:54 - Sep 17 with 1751 viewsMattinLondon

Huw Edwards on 10:49 - Sep 17 by Dave_Buh

The sentence is just another example of how mad the world has gone. If you knowingly purchase images of a child being abused then there is no place for you in society. You don’t deserve to be rehabilitated, you don’t deserve to live and no further time should be wasted on the individual. Anyone arguing to the contrary is part of the problem, not the solution.


And anyone arguing for capital punishment is guilty for violence being so dominant in society.
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Huw Edwards on 11:56 - Sep 17 with 1752 viewsWeWereZombies

Huw Edwards on 11:52 - Sep 17 by positivity

who?


Reference to Pete Townshend, lead guitarist of The Who.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ore

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'Also arrested were Massive Attack's Robert Del Naja (later cleared) and The Who's guitarist Pete Townshend, who was cautioned by the police after acknowledging credit card access to the Landslide website. Duncan Campbell later stated in PC Pro magazine that their credit card charges and IP addresses were traced through the Landslide site, and both were found to have accessed sites which had nothing to do with child pornography.'
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Huw Edwards on 12:34 - Sep 17 with 1687 viewsDave_Buh

Huw Edwards on 11:54 - Sep 17 by MattinLondon

And anyone arguing for capital punishment is guilty for violence being so dominant in society.


Like i said. Part of the problem. There is a fence. One side is for putting people who wish to sexually abuse children down. The other side is for those who wish to waste money trying to rehabilitate them. I know which side of the fence I’m happy to sit on. Although I’m not sure how that makes me guilty for violence in society?
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Huw Edwards on 12:38 - Sep 17 with 1666 viewsRyorry

Huw Edwards on 09:02 - Sep 17 by DJR

If the public were to determine sentences in high profile cases, and the same principles were applied to sentences in other cases, our prison population of around 90,000 would be multiplied several times.

As it is, our incarceration rates are higher than the rest of western Europe, and when it comes to rehabilitation/recidivism, which in my view ought to be a key aspect of the criminal justice system, our record when compared to many other developed countries does not seem very good.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/957501/incarceration-rate-in-europe/

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/recidivism-rates-by-country


Indeed, & overcrowding + general non-rehabilitating nature of UK prisons has been a thing since at least 1948. People forget that most prisoners are eventually released, so it's in our own interests that rehab. takes place if ppl are sentenced to that. But I remember saying in a group debate on open day for applicants to probaation officer training course in Ipswich, that there must be better alternatives, given the recidivism rates - & that was in 1972!

Sadly, the same old police/judicial system mantra still applies - "you build em, we'll fill em".

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Huw Edwards on 12:56 - Sep 17 with 1604 viewsMattinLondon

Huw Edwards on 12:34 - Sep 17 by Dave_Buh

Like i said. Part of the problem. There is a fence. One side is for putting people who wish to sexually abuse children down. The other side is for those who wish to waste money trying to rehabilitate them. I know which side of the fence I’m happy to sit on. Although I’m not sure how that makes me guilty for violence in society?


You don’t think advocating for someone to be killed is violent? If the state kills someone (regardless of the offence that they have committed) then that is cheapening life.
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Huw Edwards on 13:03 - Sep 17 with 1559 viewsMJallday

For those who are interested, this is the judges comments

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/EDWARDS-SENTENCE-REMARKS-FIN

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Huw Edwards on 13:03 - Sep 17 with 1553 viewsDave_Buh

Huw Edwards on 12:56 - Sep 17 by MattinLondon

You don’t think advocating for someone to be killed is violent? If the state kills someone (regardless of the offence that they have committed) then that is cheapening life.


On that basis you are valuing your life on par with that of a child abuser. Probably time re-evaluate yourself don’t you think?
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Huw Edwards on 13:07 - Sep 17 with 1522 viewsnoggin

Huw Edwards on 10:49 - Sep 17 by Dave_Buh

The sentence is just another example of how mad the world has gone. If you knowingly purchase images of a child being abused then there is no place for you in society. You don’t deserve to be rehabilitated, you don’t deserve to live and no further time should be wasted on the individual. Anyone arguing to the contrary is part of the problem, not the solution.


"You don’t deserve to be rehabilitated"

Wow!

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Huw Edwards on 13:10 - Sep 17 with 1490 viewsMattinLondon

Huw Edwards on 13:03 - Sep 17 by Dave_Buh

On that basis you are valuing your life on par with that of a child abuser. Probably time re-evaluate yourself don’t you think?


I evaluate myself frequently and I try to be a civilised person capable of compassion. It is possible to be disgusted by his crimes but still not give in to knee-jerk sentiments which simply promotes more barbarism.
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Huw Edwards on 14:30 - Sep 17 with 1341 viewsBuhrer

Huw Edwards on 09:47 - Sep 17 by positivity

i've no problem with you, only your knee-jerk views when you lash out at the wrong targets


Thanks mother.
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Huw Edwards on 14:34 - Sep 17 with 1332 viewsWeWereZombies

Huw Edwards on 13:03 - Sep 17 by MJallday

For those who are interested, this is the judges comments

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/EDWARDS-SENTENCE-REMARKS-FIN


I think even if you do not consider yourself interested in Justice Goldspring's comments you should devote half an hour to reading them through, Hopefully that will inform you of the complexity of the case and the rationale behind the sentencing. Thanks for posting MJallday.
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Huw Edwards on 14:37 - Sep 17 with 1296 viewstextbackup

Huw Edwards on 09:47 - Sep 17 by positivity

i've no problem with you, only your knee-jerk views when you lash out at the wrong targets


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Huw Edwards on 14:39 - Sep 17 with 1290 viewsbaxterbasics

Huw Edwards on 10:49 - Sep 17 by Dave_Buh

The sentence is just another example of how mad the world has gone. If you knowingly purchase images of a child being abused then there is no place for you in society. You don’t deserve to be rehabilitated, you don’t deserve to live and no further time should be wasted on the individual. Anyone arguing to the contrary is part of the problem, not the solution.


So I am clear - you are advocating for the death penalty for those who purchase/download/deliberately view child abuse pictures? Correct?

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Huw Edwards on 14:46 - Sep 17 with 1259 viewsDave_Buh

Huw Edwards on 14:39 - Sep 17 by baxterbasics

So I am clear - you are advocating for the death penalty for those who purchase/download/deliberately view child abuse pictures? Correct?


Correct
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Huw Edwards on 14:47 - Sep 17 with 1266 viewsWeWereZombies

Huw Edwards on 14:39 - Sep 17 by baxterbasics

So I am clear - you are advocating for the death penalty for those who purchase/download/deliberately view child abuse pictures? Correct?


But from the judge's summing up it appears that Edwards did not purchase the images, or download them. They were in WhatsApp messages he received and he made a discretionary payment after the event (which was stupid of him but was not a case of purchasing and then receiving.) I'm a bit wary of setting a precedent of, say, lethal injection, for someone who opens WhatsApp without knowing what is waiting for them...

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Huw Edwards on 14:53 - Sep 17 with 1236 viewsRyorry

Huw Edwards on 14:47 - Sep 17 by WeWereZombies

But from the judge's summing up it appears that Edwards did not purchase the images, or download them. They were in WhatsApp messages he received and he made a discretionary payment after the event (which was stupid of him but was not a case of purchasing and then receiving.) I'm a bit wary of setting a precedent of, say, lethal injection, for someone who opens WhatsApp without knowing what is waiting for them...


Glad I never did get WhatsApp then!

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Huw Edwards on 14:57 - Sep 17 with 1222 viewsblueasfook

Huw Edwards on 14:47 - Sep 17 by WeWereZombies

But from the judge's summing up it appears that Edwards did not purchase the images, or download them. They were in WhatsApp messages he received and he made a discretionary payment after the event (which was stupid of him but was not a case of purchasing and then receiving.) I'm a bit wary of setting a precedent of, say, lethal injection, for someone who opens WhatsApp without knowing what is waiting for them...


That's not what I read. Apparently the guy told him he had pics of "young ones" and asked Noncey if he wanted them to which he replied "yeah xxx".

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Huw Edwards on 15:05 - Sep 17 with 1184 viewsBuhrer

Huw Edwards on 14:39 - Sep 17 by baxterbasics

So I am clear - you are advocating for the death penalty for those who purchase/download/deliberately view child abuse pictures? Correct?


Seems a bit harsh. Hu did only look at kiddy porn, and his mainstream dad was ever so overbearing. Having his eyes surgically removed is better suited to the crime and puts his chances of reoffending at 0%. Plus he won't have to see the shame in his family's eyes. And the rest of us can stop talking about another BBC nonce.
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