| Reform next? 09:34 - Sep 24 with 9427 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Off to check the odds....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/23/the-writing-is-on-already-the-wall-f
"Nearly one in four 2019 Conservative voters switched to Reform compared with just one in eight who backed Labour.
As a result, Labour won just 35 per cent of the vote – in an election where only three in five voted. Never before has a party won an overall majority with so low a share of the vote. Consequently, the pool of voters willing to give it the benefit of the doubt is unusually small."
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| Reform next? on 00:59 - Sep 25 with 1634 views | Zapers |
| Reform next? on 23:00 - Sep 24 by reusersfreekicks |
What rubbish. Reform bash all immigrants like you. |
Are you suggesting that Reform bash all immigrants, like me?
If so, i suggest you withdraw that statement.
Since you have zero evidence that I'm racist, I consider that to be abuse. |  | | |
| Reform next? on 04:59 - Sep 25 with 1604 views | Benters |
| Reform next? on 15:54 - Sep 24 by Zapers |
Focus on the word “illegal”
That might be a clue. |
Hang on free gear kier can’t even say illegal now it’s irregular.
Mind you he can’t say hostages either they are sausages lol 😂😂😂 |  |
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| Reform next? on 05:07 - Sep 25 with 1596 views | Zapers |
| Reform next? on 04:59 - Sep 25 by Benters |
Hang on free gear kier can’t even say illegal now it’s irregular.
Mind you he can’t say hostages either they are sausages lol 😂😂😂 |
I know, how can you possibly confuse the word sausages with something as serious as people held hostage  | | | |
| Reform next? on 05:14 - Sep 25 with 1592 views | Benters |
| Reform next? on 05:07 - Sep 25 by Zapers |
I know, how can you possibly confuse the word sausages with something as serious as people held hostage |
Is it possible to hold a sausage hostage anyway 😂 | |
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| Reform next? on 08:10 - Sep 25 with 1420 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Reform next? on 05:14 - Sep 25 by Benters |
Is it possible to hold a sausage hostage anyway 😂 |
You would if they cost 90 quid  |  |
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| Reform next? on 08:19 - Sep 25 with 1400 views | DJR |
| Reform next? on 14:26 - Sep 24 by Zapers |
Yes, because I’m not illegal. |
And neither are the vast majority of people who have migrated to this country since WW2 but Reform have a problem with them too, as you appear to too, which seems rather ironic.
As it is, those crossing in boats make up a very small percentage of those coming to the UK.
An estimated 1.2 million people came to the UK in 2023, around 40,000 crossed in boats.
It is not illegal to see asylum in the UK.
Interestingly, the current government have changed the rhetoric on this to reflect more properly the situation.
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| Reform next? on 08:30 - Sep 25 with 1368 views | Benters |
Haha ! I forgot about you and your famous sausages cut into little pieces for you 😂👍 | |
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| Reform next? on 10:21 - Sep 25 with 1310 views | Zapers |
| Reform next? on 08:19 - Sep 25 by DJR |
And neither are the vast majority of people who have migrated to this country since WW2 but Reform have a problem with them too, as you appear to too, which seems rather ironic.
As it is, those crossing in boats make up a very small percentage of those coming to the UK.
An estimated 1.2 million people came to the UK in 2023, around 40,000 crossed in boats.
It is not illegal to see asylum in the UK.
Interestingly, the current government have changed the rhetoric on this to reflect more properly the situation.
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Again, apart from the probability that If I lived in the UK, what evidence do you have, other than maybe I would vote for Reform, that I have an issue with all immigration?
You clearly aimed that at me, but unlike you, I wont run away and cry as you did the other day when you felt a poster was picking on you.
The PM, your PM praised the "remarkable progress" the Italian government has made in reducing the number of migrants entering the country illegally.
So unless you consider your government don't have an issue with people trying to gain access to the UK illegally, I suggest you stop being a hypocrite. | | | |
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| Reform next? on 10:31 - Sep 25 with 1286 views | Blueschev |
| Reform next? on 10:21 - Sep 25 by Zapers |
Again, apart from the probability that If I lived in the UK, what evidence do you have, other than maybe I would vote for Reform, that I have an issue with all immigration?
You clearly aimed that at me, but unlike you, I wont run away and cry as you did the other day when you felt a poster was picking on you.
The PM, your PM praised the "remarkable progress" the Italian government has made in reducing the number of migrants entering the country illegally.
So unless you consider your government don't have an issue with people trying to gain access to the UK illegally, I suggest you stop being a hypocrite. |
Given that Reform Ltd are essentially a one issue private lobbying group masquerading as a political party, who propagate falsehoods about immigration on a daily basis, and you would vote for them given the option, it's not much of a stretch to conclude that you have a problem with immigration, be it legal or otherwise. |  | | |
| Reform next? on 10:37 - Sep 25 with 1252 views | Zapers |
| Reform next? on 10:31 - Sep 25 by Blueschev |
Given that Reform Ltd are essentially a one issue private lobbying group masquerading as a political party, who propagate falsehoods about immigration on a daily basis, and you would vote for them given the option, it's not much of a stretch to conclude that you have a problem with immigration, be it legal or otherwise. |
Well that is at least some progress.
You admit that not all immigration is legal.
Good to know that so many on here favour laws being broken. | | | |
| Reform next? on 10:46 - Sep 25 with 1213 views | Blueschev |
| Reform next? on 10:37 - Sep 25 by Zapers |
Well that is at least some progress.
You admit that not all immigration is legal.
Good to know that so many on here favour laws being broken. |
Do you read what people actually post? Nobody has said there is no such thing as illegal immigration, though many people have pointed out that you often refer to asylum seekers as "illegals" when they are nothing of the sort. | | | |
| Reform next? on 10:52 - Sep 25 with 1180 views | DJR |
| Reform next? on 10:21 - Sep 25 by Zapers |
Again, apart from the probability that If I lived in the UK, what evidence do you have, other than maybe I would vote for Reform, that I have an issue with all immigration?
You clearly aimed that at me, but unlike you, I wont run away and cry as you did the other day when you felt a poster was picking on you.
The PM, your PM praised the "remarkable progress" the Italian government has made in reducing the number of migrants entering the country illegally.
So unless you consider your government don't have an issue with people trying to gain access to the UK illegally, I suggest you stop being a hypocrite. |
I'll treat a comment which contains personal abuse with the contempt it deserves. [Post edited 25 Sep 2024 10:53]
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| Reform next? on 11:00 - Sep 25 with 1146 views | Zapers |
| Reform next? on 10:46 - Sep 25 by Blueschev |
Do you read what people actually post? Nobody has said there is no such thing as illegal immigration, though many people have pointed out that you often refer to asylum seekers as "illegals" when they are nothing of the sort. |
Not always no, most of the time it's biased hypocritical nonsense.
I have never used the term asylum seekers because until they are granted asylum, they are illegal.
JFTR, i'm totally in favour of controlled immigration, much like Australia.
I think you will find most people favour this rather than your all people welcome attitude.
Soon you will find out that your HMRC receipts will start to dwindle. Higher taxes for the wealthy will just increase migration to less onerous countries, or principalities.
Then who's going to fill in your pot holes. | | | |
| Reform next? on 11:09 - Sep 25 with 1125 views | giant_stow |
| Reform next? on 11:00 - Sep 25 by Zapers |
Not always no, most of the time it's biased hypocritical nonsense.
I have never used the term asylum seekers because until they are granted asylum, they are illegal.
JFTR, i'm totally in favour of controlled immigration, much like Australia.
I think you will find most people favour this rather than your all people welcome attitude.
Soon you will find out that your HMRC receipts will start to dwindle. Higher taxes for the wealthy will just increase migration to less onerous countries, or principalities.
Then who's going to fill in your pot holes. |
"if we allow too many migrants into the UK, us rich folk will migrate" |  |
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| Reform next? on 11:09 - Sep 25 with 1122 views | MattinLondon |
| Reform next? on 11:00 - Sep 25 by Zapers |
Not always no, most of the time it's biased hypocritical nonsense.
I have never used the term asylum seekers because until they are granted asylum, they are illegal.
JFTR, i'm totally in favour of controlled immigration, much like Australia.
I think you will find most people favour this rather than your all people welcome attitude.
Soon you will find out that your HMRC receipts will start to dwindle. Higher taxes for the wealthy will just increase migration to less onerous countries, or principalities.
Then who's going to fill in your pot holes. |
You’re wrong is your assumption that asylum seekers are illegal until they are actually granted asylum. Seeking asylum is a legal right which everyone has. It is not illegal to seek asylum, because seeking asylum is a legal process. It also isn't illegal to be refused asylum – it just means you haven't been able to meet the very strict criteria to prove your need for protection as a refugee.
I’m not sure anyone on here as promoted an ‘everyone is welcome’ approach - you’re simply making stuff up to get annoyed about.
The wealthy won’t flee if taxes go up, that’s just scaremongering.
In terms of potholes, you won’t be paying as you live abroad. [Post edited 25 Sep 2024 11:11]
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| Reform next? on 11:25 - Sep 25 with 1062 views | Zapers |
| Reform next? on 11:09 - Sep 25 by MattinLondon |
You’re wrong is your assumption that asylum seekers are illegal until they are actually granted asylum. Seeking asylum is a legal right which everyone has. It is not illegal to seek asylum, because seeking asylum is a legal process. It also isn't illegal to be refused asylum – it just means you haven't been able to meet the very strict criteria to prove your need for protection as a refugee.
I’m not sure anyone on here as promoted an ‘everyone is welcome’ approach - you’re simply making stuff up to get annoyed about.
The wealthy won’t flee if taxes go up, that’s just scaremongering.
In terms of potholes, you won’t be paying as you live abroad. [Post edited 25 Sep 2024 11:11]
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Ok, so why are labour engaging on reducing the numbers of people crossing in small boats. Are all these people asylum seekers, are they all entitled to asylum. And if so, why are governments committed to reducing the number of illegal immigrants.
Circa 9500 millionaires and billionaires have migrated this year, second only to China. HMRC have already stated that increasing taxes is likely to have a negative effect on tax receipts. | | | |
| Reform next? on 11:53 - Sep 25 with 1015 views | Blueschev |
| Reform next? on 11:00 - Sep 25 by Zapers |
Not always no, most of the time it's biased hypocritical nonsense.
I have never used the term asylum seekers because until they are granted asylum, they are illegal.
JFTR, i'm totally in favour of controlled immigration, much like Australia.
I think you will find most people favour this rather than your all people welcome attitude.
Soon you will find out that your HMRC receipts will start to dwindle. Higher taxes for the wealthy will just increase migration to less onerous countries, or principalities.
Then who's going to fill in your pot holes. |
It's pretty pointless debating with someone who neither knows what they're talking about or even reads what others say.
"I have never used the term asylum seekers because until they are granted asylum, they are illegal."- The opposite is true. Go and look up the law yourself. | | | |
| Reform next? on 11:56 - Sep 25 with 1001 views | Zapers |
| Reform next? on 11:53 - Sep 25 by Blueschev |
It's pretty pointless debating with someone who neither knows what they're talking about or even reads what others say.
"I have never used the term asylum seekers because until they are granted asylum, they are illegal."- The opposite is true. Go and look up the law yourself. |
So once they are granted asylum, then they are illegal? Wow, i never knew that. | | | |
| Reform next? on 12:01 - Sep 25 with 992 views | Blueschev |
| Reform next? on 11:56 - Sep 25 by Zapers |
So once they are granted asylum, then they are illegal? Wow, i never knew that. |
An asylum seeker is not illegal until such time as their claim is rejected yet they remain in the country. As you have been told multiple times. I'm not sure if you're being wilfully ignorant or on a wind up. Either way it's boring. | | | |
| Reform next? on 12:10 - Sep 25 with 973 views | Zapers |
| Reform next? on 12:01 - Sep 25 by Blueschev |
An asylum seeker is not illegal until such time as their claim is rejected yet they remain in the country. As you have been told multiple times. I'm not sure if you're being wilfully ignorant or on a wind up. Either way it's boring. |
I'm certainly not ignorant, and if I'm winding you up, then that's your problem.
I will leave it here because we will never agree. one persons illegal, is another persons legal.
Perhaps you government have come to your rescue by changing the word illegal, to irregular  | | | |
| Reform next? on 12:29 - Sep 25 with 935 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Reform next? on 11:25 - Sep 25 by Zapers |
Ok, so why are labour engaging on reducing the numbers of people crossing in small boats. Are all these people asylum seekers, are they all entitled to asylum. And if so, why are governments committed to reducing the number of illegal immigrants.
Circa 9500 millionaires and billionaires have migrated this year, second only to China. HMRC have already stated that increasing taxes is likely to have a negative effect on tax receipts. |
Not sure what a vote for Reform will do to fix any of these concerns of yours.
Their manifesto was absolutely batsh1t mental. None of it was financially viable, which shouldn't be a shock as Farage was such a vocal supporter of Liz Truss and her mini budget. They just used a lot of populist talking points and gullible people fell for it.
This is the thing, people go after for Farage or how much of a detestable human he is, and most people in his party. And I agree. But what people also needed to point out was that his policies were unworkable even if you did agree with them. |  |
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| Reform next? on 12:34 - Sep 25 with 911 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Reform next? on 08:30 - Sep 25 by Benters |
Haha ! I forgot about you and your famous sausages cut into little pieces for you 😂👍 |
I dunno where you got the cut into little pieces bit, that's a strange addition to the story! | |
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| Reform next? on 12:46 - Sep 25 with 878 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Reform next? on 12:10 - Sep 25 by Zapers |
I'm certainly not ignorant, and if I'm winding you up, then that's your problem.
I will leave it here because we will never agree. one persons illegal, is another persons legal.
Perhaps you government have come to your rescue by changing the word illegal, to irregular |
"one persons illegal, is another persons legal."
Erm, no. Something is either illegal or it isn't. Someone calling something illegal that is legal, at that point, is just ignorant. Or they disagree with the legal status. Either way, they're wrong. | |
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| Reform next? on 12:53 - Sep 25 with 859 views | Zapers |
| Reform next? on 12:46 - Sep 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
"one persons illegal, is another persons legal."
Erm, no. Something is either illegal or it isn't. Someone calling something illegal that is legal, at that point, is just ignorant. Or they disagree with the legal status. Either way, they're wrong. |
I'm talking about interpretation.
No sh!!t Sherlock. | | | |
| Reform next? on 12:57 - Sep 25 with 853 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Reform next? on 12:53 - Sep 25 by Zapers |
I'm talking about interpretation.
No sh!!t Sherlock. |
You're talking nonsense (and not for the first time). You can't interpret if something's illegal or not. The law decides, and then it's fact. | |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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