| Has it really come to this.... on 08:15 - Oct 15 with 2804 views | DanTheMan |
I agree with you on this one. I have no issues with the drug if it's helpful to people for medical reasons but I feel like it should be the last thing to try and not the goto option. |  |
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| Has it really come to this.... on 08:25 - Oct 15 with 2754 views | unbelievablue |
| Has it really come to this.... on 08:15 - Oct 15 by DanTheMan |
I agree with you on this one. I have no issues with the drug if it's helpful to people for medical reasons but I feel like it should be the last thing to try and not the goto option. |
I agree too regarding the overall sentiment.
Will add: a bit more general compassion towards those struggling with obesity is needed across our society. |  |
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| Has it really come to this.... on 08:59 - Oct 15 with 2592 views | Help |
Almost the sort of thing I would expect trump to spout out |  |
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| Has it really come to this.... on 09:27 - Oct 15 with 2513 views | DJR |
There are all sorts of reasons for people not being in a position to work, so to blame it on obesity (which itself may be a symptom of mental health problems or lack of confidence) is a bit simplistic.
What we really need is a holistic approach, but with Crapita lurking in the background, that will never happen. |  | | |
| Has it really come to this.... on 09:36 - Oct 15 with 2464 views | baxterbasics |
If it works, and saves enough of the £11bn obesity apparently costs the economy to be worthwhile, why not?
I mean it's that or find some way to force people to eat less and move about more.
Or just accept fatties gonna fat and keep forking out for their care. |  |
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| Has it really come to this.... on 09:40 - Oct 15 with 2444 views | Guthrum |
It's marginally more humane than constantly sanctioning their benefits and starving the unemployed thin. |  |
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| Has it really come to this.... on 09:59 - Oct 15 with 2353 views | MattinLondon |
| Has it really come to this.... on 08:15 - Oct 15 by DanTheMan |
I agree with you on this one. I have no issues with the drug if it's helpful to people for medical reasons but I feel like it should be the last thing to try and not the goto option. |
Injections are probably part of the solution to obesity but in order to make the population thinner, surly the infrastructure needs to be better for people to be healthier, rather than continue to inject people. Heavily subsidised gyms and swimming pools, more clubs promoting exercise making being healthy a social thing.
Not sure how long such injections last for, but surly they can’t be the long-term solution. |  | | |
| Has it really come to this.... on 10:08 - Oct 15 with 2306 views | Cafe_Newman |
Now THAT is satire. An injection for weightloss to get people back to work. - comedy genius. [Post edited 16 Oct 2024 19:09]
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| Has it really come to this.... on 10:23 - Oct 15 with 2248 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Has it really come to this.... on 09:59 - Oct 15 by MattinLondon |
Injections are probably part of the solution to obesity but in order to make the population thinner, surly the infrastructure needs to be better for people to be healthier, rather than continue to inject people. Heavily subsidised gyms and swimming pools, more clubs promoting exercise making being healthy a social thing.
Not sure how long such injections last for, but surly they can’t be the long-term solution. |
The biggest problem is people's diets. Losing weight is 80% diet and 20% exercise. In many ways, exercising has never been easier - you are never any more than 10 minutes drive away from a gym. Problem is you are never any more than a 5 minute drive away from half a dozen fast food chains. And you can order virtually anything you want to be delivered to your front door without moving. My parents and grandparents generations largely never visited gyms but obesity rates were exponentially lower.
Diet is the big thing that needs to be tackled. A lot of these foods are made to be highly addictive and people get hooked on junk food. It becomes an addiction. The injection basically suppresses appetite and means you can eat less. I've spoken to a couple of people on Ozempic and it's been a silver bullet for them because for years they've not been able to control their urges to eat badly/excessively. [Post edited 15 Oct 2024 10:24]
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| Has it really come to this.... on 12:08 - Oct 15 with 2047 views | eireblue |
Had they considered NHS boxing gyms? |  | | |
| Has it really come to this.... on 12:47 - Oct 15 with 1987 views | MillsTash |
Original pirate material you're listening to The Streets |  | | |
| Has it really come to this.... on 18:37 - Oct 15 with 1765 views | bluejacko |
So how does this help obese people who are in work? These injections are as well as exercise I presume, do we pay for gym sessions as well? | | | |
| Has it really come to this.... on 18:40 - Oct 15 with 1746 views | DanTheMan |
| Has it really come to this.... on 18:37 - Oct 15 by bluejacko |
So how does this help obese people who are in work? These injections are as well as exercise I presume, do we pay for gym sessions as well? |
Interestingly, doing that would probably be cheaper than the cost of treating the conditions related to being overweight. Food for thought (pun intentional!) | |
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| Has it really come to this.... on 18:52 - Oct 15 with 1717 views | bluejacko |
| Has it really come to this.... on 18:40 - Oct 15 by DanTheMan |
Interestingly, doing that would probably be cheaper than the cost of treating the conditions related to being overweight. Food for thought (pun intentional!) |
Perhaps instead we could do the weekly shop for them and cut out all the junk food and get them eating properly! That would be cheaper still? | | | |
| Has it really come to this.... on 18:57 - Oct 15 with 1696 views | bazza |
| Has it really come to this.... on 18:52 - Oct 15 by bluejacko |
Perhaps instead we could do the weekly shop for them and cut out all the junk food and get them eating properly! That would be cheaper still? |
Gregg Wallace tried that .. society in this country has lost its way.. people who can’t shop
For themselves clean their own houses.. or just look after themselves in general anymore … and people will make a documentary about it . |  | | |
| Has it really come to this.... on 19:36 - Oct 15 with 1624 views | itfc48 |
Unfortunately in recent years there has been some glamourisation of those overweight or plus size. I can totally sympathise with those who have issues with diet however we shouldn't be celebrating unhealthy bodies. That goes for those underweight as well. | | | |
| Has it really come to this.... on 21:06 - Oct 15 with 1547 views | Swansea_Blue |
Orwellian. I suppose there are fewer easier profits to be made by eating less processed junk and moving more. |  |
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| Has it really come to this.... on 21:11 - Oct 15 with 1522 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Has it really come to this.... on 19:36 - Oct 15 by itfc48 |
Unfortunately in recent years there has been some glamourisation of those overweight or plus size. I can totally sympathise with those who have issues with diet however we shouldn't be celebrating unhealthy bodies. That goes for those underweight as well. |
That’s complicated isn’t it, as it’s less about celebrating a fat body and more about the soul within. Which must have huge mental health benefits if nothing else. | |
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| Has it really come to this.... on 12:54 - Oct 16 with 1360 views | stonojnr |
| Has it really come to this.... on 10:23 - Oct 15 by tractorboy1978 |
The biggest problem is people's diets. Losing weight is 80% diet and 20% exercise. In many ways, exercising has never been easier - you are never any more than 10 minutes drive away from a gym. Problem is you are never any more than a 5 minute drive away from half a dozen fast food chains. And you can order virtually anything you want to be delivered to your front door without moving. My parents and grandparents generations largely never visited gyms but obesity rates were exponentially lower.
Diet is the big thing that needs to be tackled. A lot of these foods are made to be highly addictive and people get hooked on junk food. It becomes an addiction. The injection basically suppresses appetite and means you can eat less. I've spoken to a couple of people on Ozempic and it's been a silver bullet for them because for years they've not been able to control their urges to eat badly/excessively. [Post edited 15 Oct 2024 10:24]
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I'd argue the biggest problem is you're never more than 10mins DRIVE away from a gym.
Instead of simply taking regular exercise from walking or cycling, maybe even park run it to the gym instead.
The default is drive, which also means the default is drive to a takeaway.
I cycled past the McDonalds at Ravenswood Saturday, they were queuing to get into the drive thru back to the roundabout, I guarantee at best everyone in that queue lived in Ipswich, at worst they actually lived on the Ravenswood or Nacton estate and drove just 10mins cos it's easier init.
The food isn't the issue so much it's the prevailing approach to any physical exercise, if the answer is always but it's just a 10min drive...that's how you gain weight. | | | |
| Has it really come to this.... on 12:58 - Oct 16 with 1349 views | stonojnr |
| Has it really come to this.... on 09:59 - Oct 15 by MattinLondon |
Injections are probably part of the solution to obesity but in order to make the population thinner, surly the infrastructure needs to be better for people to be healthier, rather than continue to inject people. Heavily subsidised gyms and swimming pools, more clubs promoting exercise making being healthy a social thing.
Not sure how long such injections last for, but surly they can’t be the long-term solution. |
Just remember how often people complain about parking for football, or how long it takes to get home post game, so they all leave 10mins before to beat the traffic queues that they're part of creating.
I still don't understand why they don't implement things like free bus travel on match days for ticket holders. | | | |
| Has it really come to this.... on 13:11 - Oct 16 with 1313 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Has it really come to this.... on 12:54 - Oct 16 by stonojnr |
I'd argue the biggest problem is you're never more than 10mins DRIVE away from a gym.
Instead of simply taking regular exercise from walking or cycling, maybe even park run it to the gym instead.
The default is drive, which also means the default is drive to a takeaway.
I cycled past the McDonalds at Ravenswood Saturday, they were queuing to get into the drive thru back to the roundabout, I guarantee at best everyone in that queue lived in Ipswich, at worst they actually lived on the Ravenswood or Nacton estate and drove just 10mins cos it's easier init.
The food isn't the issue so much it's the prevailing approach to any physical exercise, if the answer is always but it's just a 10min drive...that's how you gain weight. |
Don't disagree people should exercise more but diet is the bigger problem.
How long does it take you to eat a 350 calorie doughnut? 3 seconds.
How long does it take you to burn 350 calories? 30 minutes.
Unless you are seriously fortunate with your metabolism, if you can't control your diet, you have no chance no matter how much exercise you do. | | | |
| Has it really come to this.... on 17:17 - Oct 16 with 1195 views | Lord_Lucan |
I've nothing against dishing out the skinny jabs for health reasons, I know a good few people on them and they all report fantastic results. In fact, giving the jabs out could be very cost effective what with the cost of obesity.
This though is pure dog whistling. |  |
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| Has it really come to this.... on 17:48 - Oct 16 with 1158 views | Vaughan8 |
| Has it really come to this.... on 09:36 - Oct 15 by baxterbasics |
If it works, and saves enough of the £11bn obesity apparently costs the economy to be worthwhile, why not?
I mean it's that or find some way to force people to eat less and move about more.
Or just accept fatties gonna fat and keep forking out for their care. |
I'm no scientist but surely this isn't a magic cure?
You have it, get slimmer, carry on eating too much and sitting around, surely you'll get fat again.
This sounds almost comical. Get people back into work...…..doing what?
Is this going to be available for obese people in work? [Post edited 16 Oct 2024 17:51]
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