| 1pt above relegation 17:21 - Oct 19 with 4850 views | Mullet |
4 from Everton and West Ham now. Wonder if that’s significant yet? As that was a truly dreadful performance today.
Very few can hold their head up after that. Szmodics does not look like an impact player to me, the nicest thing I can say about Jack Clarke is that he does. Wes and him both causing the wrong full backs problems all game - McKenna has a lot to do to justify his reputation as the talented manager outside of us fans now.
Can see the rest of the division seeing us as easy meat right now, justifiably so. That was atrocious again. |  |
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| 1pt above relegation on 20:09 - Oct 19 with 1187 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| 1pt above relegation on 18:40 - Oct 19 by cbower |
Time to show us why he's so highly rated I guess.
Some changes need to be made, both in personnel and set up for me.
Muric made some good saves today yet he does not inspire confidence does he?
With Axel out for a good length of time, commit to either Clarke or Johnson at right back. Personally, I'd go Clarke. Johnson doesn’t look athletic enough from what I've seen. O'Shea at RB- no thanks.
That's 4 games for Wolf in the Prem and he's done fine. Yes, O'Shea cost loads, has international and Premier experience, is supposed to be quick but has he really shown any of that so far? He looks prone to loose passes, his header today for the first was poor, it should’ve been back headed out for a corner. Having said that, what Burns did was dog dirt defending. Wolf and Greaves for me, build thst partnership.
We are getting overrun in midfield game after game. When the front 3 or 4 press, the gap between them and the midfield 2 is too big and we become too easy to play around. Morsy and Phillips are then exposed further with players running either at them or beyond them. As Mick Mills said on Suffolk, 3 bodies in midfield is perhaps the solution (he was talking about away from home but I think it could be the way to go in general).
Omari is a talent but he is finding no space through the middle. Swallow your pride maybe, he looked so much more of a tgreat when he could face players up from wide on the right, getvthem back peddling instead of trying to turn them in the middle when they're right up his backside.
Wes is not getting the ball where ye id dangerous. Pickining it up on the half way line with opposition teams nicely set sees him lay the ball off. He's at his best when the ball is moved quickly in behind teams where he can use his pace. It's not happening. Also, I'm yet to see Ogbene take his man on. He's done little to suggest he can change a game.
Jack Clarke certainly has talent. He probably should have 2 or 3 goals to his name already and things would look very different. His partnership with Leif, both in attack and defence is not quite working is it?
Szmodics is, in my opinion, being wasted. He showed lsdt year he is a talent, dest suited centrally whre he can also run the channels on both sides. Being tied to the left, he's constrained.
Delap has done well of course but he is being flogged, playing 10 or 15 minutes too long for me. Hirst's movement and hold up play is better but he is not getting enough minutes. [Post edited 19 Oct 2024 19:14]
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It is down to McKenna to show his worth and whether he decides to change things or not time will tell. Walton has been unlucky. He was in Muric's position last season, Hladky came in and took hic chance. However, this season Muric is McKenna's man so got his place back. Would Walton give the defence any more confidence?
Clarke is returning from injury and Johnson is out. That left McKenna turning to O'Shea and bringing in both Woolfenden and Burgess. When was the last time we made 3 changes to the back four? That isn't going to make for stability. Is it surprising that an experienced Premier League side exploited that?
I am surprised Hutchinson isn't being played wide with Szmodics starting for Chaplin to come on. Maybe even play Delap behind Hirst at some point if he can play that role.
Two things that appear to be overlooked today are that we are missing several defenders (especially right backs) and Everton have been improving and have players returned from injury.
Is it disappointing we haven't won a game yet? Of course. But we are a very long way from relegated. |  |
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| 1pt above relegation on 20:14 - Oct 19 with 1158 views | Back2Back |
| 1pt above relegation on 17:49 - Oct 19 by Bluecasp |
I think one of the few consolations so far is that no premier league club are going to come after Mckenna on recent performances. |
Just a reminder that Burnley were relegated and Vincent Company went to Bayern Munich. |  | | |
| 1pt above relegation on 20:18 - Oct 19 with 1135 views | FrimleyBlue |
| 1pt above relegation on 20:09 - Oct 19 by Nthsuffolkblue |
It is down to McKenna to show his worth and whether he decides to change things or not time will tell. Walton has been unlucky. He was in Muric's position last season, Hladky came in and took hic chance. However, this season Muric is McKenna's man so got his place back. Would Walton give the defence any more confidence?
Clarke is returning from injury and Johnson is out. That left McKenna turning to O'Shea and bringing in both Woolfenden and Burgess. When was the last time we made 3 changes to the back four? That isn't going to make for stability. Is it surprising that an experienced Premier League side exploited that?
I am surprised Hutchinson isn't being played wide with Szmodics starting for Chaplin to come on. Maybe even play Delap behind Hirst at some point if he can play that role.
Two things that appear to be overlooked today are that we are missing several defenders (especially right backs) and Everton have been improving and have players returned from injury.
Is it disappointing we haven't won a game yet? Of course. But we are a very long way from relegated. |
I don't think defensively anythings been overlooked most have acknowledged the changes made wouldn't have helped with prep etc
But.. the concern is the lack of anything going forwards. More disturbing is KM appearing content with it. Its just nothingness at the moment and the moment teams spend 5 minutes adjusting their lineups we re under the cosh with no counter change.
Stick a man on wes.
Two go over and cover clarke one waits for invert the other drifts to cover outside or onto davis
Midfield can push forward as our cms are too deep
Wait for ball to go to our left then when we lose the ball hit us on the counter down our left inverting into our box etc etc.
Our answer to teams at the moment.
Give ball to hutch and ask him to run around 100 players in the middle or find delap and hope he can flick it and run past 3 players and score.
0 midfield involvement. Nothing from the right. Once you've stopped burns from advancing. Etc.
For me this is the concern. We used to have chappers go down on 20. Quick team talk. Little shift of players we then go onto push.
What I don't get
28 goal scoring am sat on bench
Left winger Clark is an inside 10 with 0 defensive know how
Hutch who scored all his goals from right position central roaming literally everywhere whilst achieving not much (, not his fault)
Etc etc
I'm all for seeing improvement but KM seems really stubborn at the moment and that's something we've not had to worry about before. [Post edited 19 Oct 2024 20:23]
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| 1pt above relegation on 22:18 - Oct 19 with 1050 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| 1pt above relegation on 20:18 - Oct 19 by FrimleyBlue |
I don't think defensively anythings been overlooked most have acknowledged the changes made wouldn't have helped with prep etc
But.. the concern is the lack of anything going forwards. More disturbing is KM appearing content with it. Its just nothingness at the moment and the moment teams spend 5 minutes adjusting their lineups we re under the cosh with no counter change.
Stick a man on wes.
Two go over and cover clarke one waits for invert the other drifts to cover outside or onto davis
Midfield can push forward as our cms are too deep
Wait for ball to go to our left then when we lose the ball hit us on the counter down our left inverting into our box etc etc.
Our answer to teams at the moment.
Give ball to hutch and ask him to run around 100 players in the middle or find delap and hope he can flick it and run past 3 players and score.
0 midfield involvement. Nothing from the right. Once you've stopped burns from advancing. Etc.
For me this is the concern. We used to have chappers go down on 20. Quick team talk. Little shift of players we then go onto push.
What I don't get
28 goal scoring am sat on bench
Left winger Clark is an inside 10 with 0 defensive know how
Hutch who scored all his goals from right position central roaming literally everywhere whilst achieving not much (, not his fault)
Etc etc
I'm all for seeing improvement but KM seems really stubborn at the moment and that's something we've not had to worry about before. [Post edited 19 Oct 2024 20:23]
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We haven't seen a McKenna under pressure, or when his system doesn't work.
We've seen the same system and it's always worked, so we've not see exactly how malleable his teams or his working can be. Which is quite interesting | | | |
| 1pt above relegation on 00:38 - Oct 20 with 989 views | Moriarty |
| 1pt above relegation on 17:50 - Oct 19 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I disagree entirely. Give McKenna a chance to sort this out. If he cannot, why are you expecting anyone above a mid-table Championship side to come in for him? If we are not good enough, it is not because McKenna hasn't been backed so what does it say about his ability?
Personally, I trust McKenna to sort it out and think he has earnt that patience from those who matter due to his achevements in turning a mid-table League 1 side into one that got a record points total to finish 2nd in the Championship. |
Obviously you’re welcome to disagree but from my perspective, today was a crunch game. At home. A do or die. And we fluffed it in a way which was, imho, a malaise fest.
We needed our best today and instead got probably our worst performance of the season. Imho, time is neither the culprit or the solution.
We haven’t won a game this season. Based on today, that trend will continue indefinitely this season. |  |
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| 1pt above relegation on 08:01 - Oct 20 with 828 views | Stewart27 |
| 1pt above relegation on 17:46 - Oct 19 by ElephantintheRoom |
It might be time for toddlers to scream and stamp their feet and throw their toys out of the pram when/if Palace start to improve.
Perhaps being given the runaround by Southampton (again) was a wake up call for glory seeker - and inexperienced managers wedded to one way of playing with a job lot of strangers. |
“It might be time for toddlers to scream and stamp their feet and throw their toys out of the pram when/if Palace start to improve.”
What’s your excuse for your behaviour throughout your entire posting history? | | | |
| 1pt above relegation on 10:43 - Oct 20 with 755 views | Mullet |
| 1pt above relegation on 17:44 - Oct 19 by Moriarty |
Easy meat is a good way to describe us.
I honestly think it is possible we won’t win a league game this season. We’re a shambles, a comic book of defensive disorganisation (starting from the front as you do correctly point out).it should be a source of concern that not only have we polluted our squad with some overhyped duds (Hutch and Delap the honourable exceptions), we’ve gone and given them long and lovely contracts.
If any other premiership club come knocking for him, McKenna has an easy decision to make. |
I don’t think it’s quite that bad, but it’s very frustrating. This is the downside of young and talented managers and players.
The biggest worry is just as it looked to be heading in the right direction after Villa we self destruct and pick up a load of injuries too.
Cajuste looks to be a good option but we’ve not seen him. Why we are playing Burns and Clarke over Ogbene and Szmodics is baffling right now. | |
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| 1pt above relegation on 10:57 - Oct 20 with 736 views | ParisBlue |
5 from Leicester and 6 from Brentford perhaps more significant.
Nothing 2 wins in the next 2 games won't fix though. |  |
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| 1pt above relegation on 11:55 - Oct 20 with 700 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 1pt above relegation on 10:57 - Oct 20 by ParisBlue |
5 from Leicester and 6 from Brentford perhaps more significant.
Nothing 2 wins in the next 2 games won't fix though. |
Which Leicester have recently proven. |  |
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| 1pt above relegation on 12:37 - Oct 20 with 661 views | billlm |
| 1pt above relegation on 18:40 - Oct 19 by cbower |
Time to show us why he's so highly rated I guess.
Some changes need to be made, both in personnel and set up for me.
Muric made some good saves today yet he does not inspire confidence does he?
With Axel out for a good length of time, commit to either Clarke or Johnson at right back. Personally, I'd go Clarke. Johnson doesn’t look athletic enough from what I've seen. O'Shea at RB- no thanks.
That's 4 games for Wolf in the Prem and he's done fine. Yes, O'Shea cost loads, has international and Premier experience, is supposed to be quick but has he really shown any of that so far? He looks prone to loose passes, his header today for the first was poor, it should’ve been back headed out for a corner. Having said that, what Burns did was dog dirt defending. Wolf and Greaves for me, build thst partnership.
We are getting overrun in midfield game after game. When the front 3 or 4 press, the gap between them and the midfield 2 is too big and we become too easy to play around. Morsy and Phillips are then exposed further with players running either at them or beyond them. As Mick Mills said on Suffolk, 3 bodies in midfield is perhaps the solution (he was talking about away from home but I think it could be the way to go in general).
Omari is a talent but he is finding no space through the middle. Swallow your pride maybe, he looked so much more of a tgreat when he could face players up from wide on the right, getvthem back peddling instead of trying to turn them in the middle when they're right up his backside.
Wes is not getting the ball where ye id dangerous. Pickining it up on the half way line with opposition teams nicely set sees him lay the ball off. He's at his best when the ball is moved quickly in behind teams where he can use his pace. It's not happening. Also, I'm yet to see Ogbene take his man on. He's done little to suggest he can change a game.
Jack Clarke certainly has talent. He probably should have 2 or 3 goals to his name already and things would look very different. His partnership with Leif, both in attack and defence is not quite working is it?
Szmodics is, in my opinion, being wasted. He showed lsdt year he is a talent, dest suited centrally whre he can also run the channels on both sides. Being tied to the left, he's constrained.
Delap has done well of course but he is being flogged, playing 10 or 15 minutes too long for me. Hirst's movement and hold up play is better but he is not getting enough minutes. [Post edited 19 Oct 2024 19:14]
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| 1pt above relegation on 12:55 - Oct 20 with 645 views | 3_5_2 |
having been to nearly all games so far, I thought West Ham was bad but, in a way, yesterday was worse because we look so one dimensional, like we have been sussed now.
Overran in midfield, their 9 played the lone striker better than ours. They have the world's most / arrogant tosser of a GK, ours (whilst doing well yesterday) is more than likely to have a nightmare next game. I am not convinced by him and I dont think our defence is either
Add to that yet another defensive howler and not having a shot on target until the 80th minute, we looked lost and out of ideas until Omari played wide right (start him there!)
I see KMac says he wont change the system? Well , unless a large number of players up their game every week, we are toast |  |
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| 1pt above relegation on 13:53 - Oct 20 with 626 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| 1pt above relegation on 00:38 - Oct 20 by Moriarty |
Obviously you’re welcome to disagree but from my perspective, today was a crunch game. At home. A do or die. And we fluffed it in a way which was, imho, a malaise fest.
We needed our best today and instead got probably our worst performance of the season. Imho, time is neither the culprit or the solution.
We haven’t won a game this season. Based on today, that trend will continue indefinitely this season. |
Far from a crunch game. Very disappointing, yes. Had it been against Wolves, Leicester, or Palace, I would agree a bit more but even then, there is still a long way to go. If we continue to fail you are right. I am sure it will turn around but we need to make sure it does sooner rather than later. | |
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