| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. 17:06 - Oct 26 with 2913 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
The referee gave the free kick, so unless that was a clear and obvious error, why are they looking at what happened later? |  | | |  |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:07 - Oct 26 with 2878 views | Zx1988 |
VAR has always been able to adjudicate on whether a foul on the edge of the area constitutes a FK or a pen. | |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:07 - Oct 26 with 2876 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Stop clutching at straws. |  |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:08 - Oct 26 with 2819 views | ArnieM |
Biased officials . I'm sick to.the back teeth of this division. |  |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:08 - Oct 26 with 2794 views | Alberto_the_frog |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:07 - Oct 26 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Stop clutching at straws. |
It was outside the area and correctly given as so. VAR should have had nothing to do with it |  | | |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:09 - Oct 26 with 2743 views | Zx1988 |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:08 - Oct 26 by Alberto_the_frog |
It was outside the area and correctly given as so. VAR should have had nothing to do with it |
The first foul was, but then Clarke decided he wanted to haul him down once they got into the area. | |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:10 - Oct 26 with 2709 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:08 - Oct 26 by Alberto_the_frog |
It was outside the area and correctly given as so. VAR should have had nothing to do with it |
Continued into the area. | |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:10 - Oct 26 with 2673 views | pointofblue |
The penalty was a penalty. Whether the ball should have been there after the ref gave a free kick against Phillips for a perfect tackle in the build up... | |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:12 - Oct 26 with 2621 views | GlasgowBlue |
Stop blaming VAR. Their goal was onside and Clarke's foul was a penalty. |  |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:14 - Oct 26 with 2554 views | DavoIPB |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:12 - Oct 26 by GlasgowBlue |
Stop blaming VAR. Their goal was onside and Clarke's foul was a penalty. |
Except it wasn't. | | | |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:15 - Oct 26 with 2529 views | Zx1988 |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:14 - Oct 26 by DavoIPB |
Except it wasn't. |
Except it was.
You'd be fuming if the tables had been turned, and all we'd got was a FK there. | |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:26 - Oct 26 with 2388 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:15 - Oct 26 by Zx1988 |
Except it was.
You'd be fuming if the tables had been turned, and all we'd got was a FK there. |
The referee didn't agree with you.
He, correctly, gave a free kick for the initial elbow in the throat.
That wasn't a clear and obvious error, because it was correct.
Lewis-Potter then pushed himself across Clarke, then down, when the elbow/arm had been pushing him away.
That's how I saw it, having seen all the angles. | | | |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:28 - Oct 26 with 2334 views | Pinewoodblue |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:12 - Oct 26 by GlasgowBlue |
Stop blaming VAR. Their goal was onside and Clarke's foul was a penalty. |
If the referee decided to give a free kick for the initial contact, outside the box, then the ball would not be in play when any subsequent contact inside the box.
VAR got it wrong.
At least 7 goals, a sending off and VAR to discuss should get a good number of minutes coverage on MOTD. |  |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:47 - Oct 26 with 2198 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:14 - Oct 26 by DavoIPB |
Except it wasn't. |
The referee didn't blow up when they were tussling outside the area. He blew up when Clarked dragged their player down. That happened in the area. The ref made a error and VAR checked it. When the referee viewed the footage he agreed with VAR. | |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:48 - Oct 26 with 2178 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:26 - Oct 26 by ArnoldMoorhen |
The referee didn't agree with you.
He, correctly, gave a free kick for the initial elbow in the throat.
That wasn't a clear and obvious error, because it was correct.
Lewis-Potter then pushed himself across Clarke, then down, when the elbow/arm had been pushing him away.
That's how I saw it, having seen all the angles. |
The why didn't the referee stand by his initial decision when viewing the replay? | |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:49 - Oct 26 with 2163 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:28 - Oct 26 by Pinewoodblue |
If the referee decided to give a free kick for the initial contact, outside the box, then the ball would not be in play when any subsequent contact inside the box.
VAR got it wrong.
At least 7 goals, a sending off and VAR to discuss should get a good number of minutes coverage on MOTD. |
He didn't. Watch the replay. The ref blows when the Brentford player is brought down, not during the initial contact. I've watched it several times. | |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:51 - Oct 26 with 2143 views | naa |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:47 - Oct 26 by GlasgowBlue |
The referee didn't blow up when they were tussling outside the area. He blew up when Clarked dragged their player down. That happened in the area. The ref made a error and VAR checked it. When the referee viewed the footage he agreed with VAR. |
Except the referee wasn't shown it again so didn't get a chance to agree or not.
If there was a foul outside the box it can't be a penalty. You don't give the deco from where it finished, it is from where it started. | | | |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:52 - Oct 26 with 2135 views | ibbleobble |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:07 - Oct 26 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Stop clutching at straws. |
He’s not. The foul, if it was even that was committed out of the box. Just because they collapsed into each other doesn’t make it a pen. He’s stating the obvious not that it discounts yet another Muric howler. | | | |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 18:03 - Oct 26 with 2068 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:51 - Oct 26 by naa |
Except the referee wasn't shown it again so didn't get a chance to agree or not.
If there was a foul outside the box it can't be a penalty. You don't give the deco from where it finished, it is from where it started. |
The ref went over to the screen and watched the replay and agreed it was a penalty.
Watch the replay. He doesn't blow for a foul until Clarke hauls their player down, which is in the box.
https://www.skysports.com/football/video/19530/13242008/brentford-4-3-ipswich-to | |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 19:23 - Oct 26 with 1910 views | Reus30 |
My stream didn't show him going to the screen? I thought he was just told it was in the box and pointed.
I still disagree with it, very soft. Clarke's last week was more of a pen. |  | | |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 22:50 - Oct 26 with 1586 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:48 - Oct 26 by GlasgowBlue |
The why didn't the referee stand by his initial decision when viewing the replay? |
I think the referee didn't view the replay. He was told it was a penalty by the VAR crew, and gave it without looking at the monitor. If I am right about that it is another bizarre aspect of it. | | | |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 22:52 - Oct 26 with 1576 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 19:23 - Oct 26 by Reus30 |
My stream didn't show him going to the screen? I thought he was just told it was in the box and pointed.
I still disagree with it, very soft. Clarke's last week was more of a pen. |
That's what I saw live, too. Premier League stream.
The referee was over by the penalty area when he heard something on his earpiece, then gave the penalty. | | | |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 22:54 - Oct 26 with 1560 views | lazyblue |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:07 - Oct 26 by Zx1988 |
VAR has always been able to adjudicate on whether a foul on the edge of the area constitutes a FK or a pen. |
It was a penalty wether we like it or not , Clarke brought him down in the area . | | | |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 08:12 - Oct 27 with 1295 views | Paramedic |
| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 17:07 - Oct 26 by Zx1988 |
VAR has always been able to adjudicate on whether a foul on the edge of the area constitutes a FK or a pen. |
The way I saw it the initial foul started outside the box. Therefore a free kick should have been awarded outside of the box. Harry Clarke second yellow was also questionable. Looks like he played the ball, but however if it was slightly mid timed was the offence worthy of a yellow card. I’ve seen worse fouls during the game that didn’t result in bookings. Guess we just have to take it on the chin. |  |
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| 12 (well, 14 with the VAR crew) man Brentford hold on against 10 man Ipswich. on 08:24 - Oct 27 with 1257 views | ITFC_Forever |
The ref didn’t go to the screen. He stood by the ball and was told what to do in his earpiece. |  |
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