| Kemi Badenoch 19:24 - Nov 1 with 6757 views | gtsb1966 |
Named tomorrow as the new Tory leader if the polls are believed. Could she revive Tory fortunes before the next election or is it too early. Starmer doing his best to help Unfortunately. |  | | |  |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:14 - Nov 2 with 1185 views | positivity |
| Kemi Badenoch on 11:48 - Nov 2 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
The reasons for that are well known. Unfunded, uncosted and unrealistic. Implemented by an implausible PM in a haphazard manner. It’s now set the argument for a lower tax growth agenda back by a decade. Tories have a lot to answer for post Brexit. |
low tax, small state budgets are always unrealistic if you want to build a better country |  |
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| Kemi Badenoch on 12:14 - Nov 2 with 1185 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:11 - Nov 2 by positivity |
given that such a low percentage of the public voted for his party, and his wild swings of opinion towards, say, the rwanda policy, i think i'm very much in the majority |
Ok, it’s an opinion I guess, but I disagree with you. | | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:14 - Nov 2 with 1184 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:07 - Nov 2 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Or perhaps they don’t have the prejudices you perceive them to have in the first place? Sometimes it’s good to be open to other opinions and points of view. |
Oh come on... | | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:14 - Nov 2 with 1178 views | positivity |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:14 - Nov 2 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Ok, it’s an opinion I guess, but I disagree with you. |
as do most people in the country, but you're welcome to your minority opinion | |
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| Kemi Badenoch on 12:18 - Nov 2 with 1145 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:14 - Nov 2 by positivity |
low tax, small state budgets are always unrealistic if you want to build a better country |
Depends what you define as “better” I guess. I think the opposite is true, and that a bloated state and high taxation disincentivises growth. If there’s one thing the U.K. needs, it’s higher productivity and growth. Bloated public services stands in the way of this imho. The reason you have the view you do, is that the Tories since 2016 have been staggeringly incompetent. | | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:18 - Nov 2 with 1141 views | Churchman |
| Kemi Badenoch on 19:37 - Nov 1 by GlasgowBlue |
Labour are in for two terms. |
Wrong. They’ll be in for three, possibly four. The Tory swivel eyed mob will get through at least two or three leaders and it will take a generation change and really a new party that tries to represent more than one percent before anyone votes for them, regardless of what Starmer and the current mob do.
The Tories are toast. |  | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:19 - Nov 2 with 1135 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:18 - Nov 2 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Depends what you define as “better” I guess. I think the opposite is true, and that a bloated state and high taxation disincentivises growth. If there’s one thing the U.K. needs, it’s higher productivity and growth. Bloated public services stands in the way of this imho. The reason you have the view you do, is that the Tories since 2016 have been staggeringly incompetent. |
I ask again, what is bloated in the public services. Be specific. | | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:23 - Nov 2 with 1102 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:14 - Nov 2 by positivity |
as do most people in the country, but you're welcome to your minority opinion |
I don’t believe it is a minority opinion. I think Cleverly would (and probably will) be a very effective leader for the Con party. I think Starmer would be a lot more concerned about Ckeverly than either Badenoch or Jenrick. At least there is now some clear water between the bloated, big state, high tax , low growth ideology of the current gov and the low tax, small state, pro growth ideas of Badenoch. I fear, however, that she will become bogged down in the culture war, immigration, anti-EU, anti-immigrant nonsense that just plays straight into Starmer’s hands. Hopefully I’m wrong tho, and all that was just for the Tory membership | | | |
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| Bye bye (n/t) on 12:26 - Nov 2 with 1083 views | blueasfook |
| Bye bye (n/t) on 11:07 - Nov 2 by Bloots |
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Poor Footers. Barely lasted 24 hours. Bye old chap
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| Kemi Badenoch on 12:30 - Nov 2 with 1052 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:19 - Nov 2 by redrickstuhaart |
I ask again, what is bloated in the public services. Be specific. |
You can start with the NHS. Public sector productivity is much, much lower than private sector productivity, and is falling further behind all the time. | | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:31 - Nov 2 with 1046 views | RadioOrwell |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:18 - Nov 2 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Depends what you define as “better” I guess. I think the opposite is true, and that a bloated state and high taxation disincentivises growth. If there’s one thing the U.K. needs, it’s higher productivity and growth. Bloated public services stands in the way of this imho. The reason you have the view you do, is that the Tories since 2016 have been staggeringly incompetent. |
Tory chaos is a result of an obsession with low tax for the rich.
What cuts to public services do you suggest ? |  | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:34 - Nov 2 with 1024 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:19 - Nov 2 by redrickstuhaart |
I ask again, what is bloated in the public services. Be specific. |
Now that Labour has left the centre ground open again by tacking so far left post election, there’s enormous centre/centre right space opened up for the Cons. I just fear they’re going to blow it by trying to appeal to the jingoistic Reform rubbish | | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:36 - Nov 2 with 1012 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:31 - Nov 2 by RadioOrwell |
Tory chaos is a result of an obsession with low tax for the rich.
What cuts to public services do you suggest ? |
Tax in the U.K. is not low. The previous Tory gov was not a low tax administration, just an inefficient and incompetent one. There’s a big difference. | | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:51 - Nov 2 with 922 views | RadioOrwell |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:36 - Nov 2 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Tax in the U.K. is not low. The previous Tory gov was not a low tax administration, just an inefficient and incompetent one. There’s a big difference. |
The UK's tax burden is currently below the average of the 38 nations in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), as well as the G7
The average earner in the UK now has the lowest effective personal tax rate since 1975 — and one that is lower than in America, France, Germany or any G7 country. | | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:54 - Nov 2 with 907 views | RadioOrwell |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:30 - Nov 2 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
You can start with the NHS. Public sector productivity is much, much lower than private sector productivity, and is falling further behind all the time. |
You're arguing for cuts to be made to the NHS ? | | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:57 - Nov 2 with 884 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:54 - Nov 2 by RadioOrwell |
You're arguing for cuts to be made to the NHS ? |
It’s unbelievably inefficient. It just needs a complete restructuring. Just chucking ever more money into the pit of the NHS is insane!! | | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:59 - Nov 2 with 862 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:51 - Nov 2 by RadioOrwell |
The UK's tax burden is currently below the average of the 38 nations in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), as well as the G7
The average earner in the UK now has the lowest effective personal tax rate since 1975 — and one that is lower than in America, France, Germany or any G7 country. |
It’s nudging 40pc of GDP. It’s madness. It’s the highest it’s ever been. Am I actually debating with someone who thinks we should pay more tax!? It’s a niche view you have, I guess. Not an opinion I encounter often! | | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 13:00 - Nov 2 with 847 views | J2BLUE |
It's daft to predict the next election already. A lot can happen in five years. If Labour's gamble works they will be able to splash the cash a bit in the last couple of years while upping the living wage each year.
Labour might go into the next election reasonably popular. It's impossible to predict right now. |  |
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| Kemi Badenoch on 13:08 - Nov 2 with 787 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| Kemi Badenoch on 13:00 - Nov 2 by J2BLUE |
It's daft to predict the next election already. A lot can happen in five years. If Labour's gamble works they will be able to splash the cash a bit in the last couple of years while upping the living wage each year.
Labour might go into the next election reasonably popular. It's impossible to predict right now. |
That’s very true! Look at how popular Jonson and Tories were in 2019! Fortunes can change quickly. However, I think the lack of growth in the economy in the back of Labour policies will really drag public sentiment down. It feels much more 1970s dour than 1997 exciting, and I don’t see Starmer reversing that sentiment. He’s an uninspirational figure, to say the least. Polls very much supporting that view currently. Labours huge move to the left has left the centre ground wide open for Cons, if they are able to grab it. I don’t think anyone expected this current gov to be so hard left, although looking at the background of the main incumbents, it should come as no surprise | | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 13:08 - Nov 2 with 786 views | mutters |
| Kemi Badenoch on 11:44 - Nov 2 by Mullet |
A tad disingenuous when you lot have ripped apart people like Rayner. Demonised everyone inside and outside of the party through identity politics etc.
Tories don’t vote for a typical woman or person of colour, they vote for a one who will go out of their way to act in a way that suits the party’s interest.
Pander to the rich, speak for “their” community despite not having experienced anything like the same life they have. Rishi was a billionaire after all. Thatcher destroyed every nuance of femininity to become the Iron Lady, it did far more harm than good for the rest of the world.
The fact that you have to put on an act to be a Tory leader is the crux of the matter, that even extends to Alexander and his Boris persona to enthral us plebs. |
"You lot" lol wind your neck in fella. Just because somebody said something vaguely positive about the Tories they are suddenly stamped with the Tory tag.
You need to see beyond your tribe and not just label people based on one comment |  |
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| Kemi Badenoch on 13:17 - Nov 2 with 733 views | Mullet |
| Kemi Badenoch on 13:08 - Nov 2 by mutters |
"You lot" lol wind your neck in fella. Just because somebody said something vaguely positive about the Tories they are suddenly stamped with the Tory tag.
You need to see beyond your tribe and not just label people based on one comment |
It’s a positive based entirely on a false premise. If you’re going to stick yours out and look silly, don’t expect everyone else to be on the same level.
Pretending you’ve just “said something vaguely positive” when your posts today are slating one side and not the other is another flimsy excuse to get all teary about people noticing.
Care to tell us the average rein of a non white male Tory post Maggie? And how far back you have to go to find all of this wonderful diversity? Based entirely on merit of course. |  |
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| Kemi Badenoch on 13:20 - Nov 2 with 703 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| Kemi Badenoch on 13:17 - Nov 2 by Mullet |
It’s a positive based entirely on a false premise. If you’re going to stick yours out and look silly, don’t expect everyone else to be on the same level.
Pretending you’ve just “said something vaguely positive” when your posts today are slating one side and not the other is another flimsy excuse to get all teary about people noticing.
Care to tell us the average rein of a non white male Tory post Maggie? And how far back you have to go to find all of this wonderful diversity? Based entirely on merit of course. |
That was a lot of letters to say absolutely nothing at all! | | | |
| Kemi Badenoch on 13:21 - Nov 2 with 699 views | positivity |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:23 - Nov 2 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
I don’t believe it is a minority opinion. I think Cleverly would (and probably will) be a very effective leader for the Con party. I think Starmer would be a lot more concerned about Ckeverly than either Badenoch or Jenrick. At least there is now some clear water between the bloated, big state, high tax , low growth ideology of the current gov and the low tax, small state, pro growth ideas of Badenoch. I fear, however, that she will become bogged down in the culture war, immigration, anti-EU, anti-immigrant nonsense that just plays straight into Starmer’s hands. Hopefully I’m wrong tho, and all that was just for the Tory membership |
if you can find one person who thinks cleverley is "very charismatic, very likeable" etc outside his direct family i'd be shocked let alone a "majority" of people!
the vast majority would be james who? followed by "which one is he again?"
if you take away the culture war, anti-immigration, anti-eu (all anti-growth policies by the way) from badenoch, you're not left with much at all, that's been her whole schtick! | |
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| Kemi Badenoch on 13:22 - Nov 2 with 695 views | mutters |
| Kemi Badenoch on 13:17 - Nov 2 by Mullet |
It’s a positive based entirely on a false premise. If you’re going to stick yours out and look silly, don’t expect everyone else to be on the same level.
Pretending you’ve just “said something vaguely positive” when your posts today are slating one side and not the other is another flimsy excuse to get all teary about people noticing.
Care to tell us the average rein of a non white male Tory post Maggie? And how far back you have to go to find all of this wonderful diversity? Based entirely on merit of course. |
It feels like you're going after the wrong poster fella
Which of my posts today have slated one side?
Whatever you may think it is great to see a major political party have a woman of colour leading them. Its progressive and shows that barriers are breaking down. | |
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| Kemi Badenoch on 13:23 - Nov 2 with 687 views | RadioOrwell |
| Kemi Badenoch on 12:57 - Nov 2 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
It’s unbelievably inefficient. It just needs a complete restructuring. Just chucking ever more money into the pit of the NHS is insane!! |
You have a real problem answering questions don't you. | | | |
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