| Constantly blaming officials 08:42 - Nov 5 with 9710 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
Every week it is always the officials fault. Every game we have lost or drawn this season, I've read that it is because of the referee or VAR.
The red card on Saturday was definitely a second yellow offence. The red card last week at Brentford was two yellow card offences. We are not being robbed or anything like that.
But no one talks about the missed chances - O'Shea for example Saturday, 3 yards out free header, wide of the target... golden chance. Jack Clarke vs Everton etc.
No one talks about McKenna holding back the Cajuste sub when he had the chance to put him on with Clarke and Hirst and then 2mins later we are down to 10 men - last season, that change is made on the 60th min. It was a poor decision in hindsight. He doesn't get much wrong, but he got this totally wrong.
The equaliser Saturday, can Morsy kick that ball wherever he wants? Yes, but he loses it cheaply looking for a free kick. Then Burns is weak and gets bullied, but he could foul the lad etc. 10 seconds later, it's in our net. 2 points dropped in a massive home game.
It's always the officials fault if you turn a blind eye to the players/management and choose the scapegoat which are the officials. In truth, it's a reality check for most that we are in a league where we will lose more games than we will win, unfortunately we just lack the quality that is needed at this level. They've been brilliant on the whole this season, I don't think they can give much more, but they're coming up short and we're just not used to it after the last 2 seasons. |  |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 18:10 - Nov 5 with 786 views | Churchman |
| Constantly blaming officials on 17:41 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
I can say how it comes across to me as you've done with posts of mine before when I hadn't meant it the way it came across. Its not for you to determine how I took it.
As I've said all along. I appreciate the things that affect the game so yes I agree morsy may have been tired. That Is an affect of the game.
And the circle continues. Affected the result/ Changed the result. Same thing. Neither Happened tho. |
Your choice as the board is home to all views, however odd. However, you might want to have a rethink on this make a point/nuance/different take stuff FB. Up to you.
I have a straight question for you. Do you think the referee and officials were balanced, even handed and fair on Saturday? Yes or no? |  | | |
| Constantly blaming officials on 18:19 - Nov 5 with 761 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Constantly blaming officials on 18:07 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
You can question it all you like. I don't need you to agree with me. |
Right. Well this has been strangely fun... but there's literally no point in debating anything with you if you can just make up what people said and say that's how you interpreted it.
And there's certainly no point debating football with you if you think only incidents that lead to goals affect the result and nothing else in the game does.
I'll remember that next time you're discussing incidents in a game. I mean there's no point even discussing Kieran's substitutions, or the timing of them, as they obviously don't affect the result... |  |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 18:49 - Nov 5 with 716 views | TheBoyBlue |
Valid points.
The refereeing and VAR decisions and non-decisions aren't the only reason we've dropped points. Morsy could've just cleared into space or even shot with the keeper off the line. It occurred to me too that Burns or indeed anyone in the team could've just wiped their player out in the circumstances. It's inexplicable that Muric let that Brentford winner in.
However, even MOTD said that Phillips was unlucky to be be booked in the incident when he was sent off, although arguably he could have been sent off when he got his yellow.
The Clarke one is only a yellow if we're now expecting a yellow for every foul. The foul finished in the penalty area, so I can understand it being given but it could also be said that it started outside the area so it doesn't seem an obvious error by the ref.
We can do things better, but we're learning on the job and things are hard enough before we even get onto the injuries we've had. And then the decisions from the officials are making it even harder. Given that penalty against Everton and if we score it (I'm aware we could've missed it) and we're back in the game and in the ascendancy against a team who have already suffered collapses from strong positions. Given the penalty against Leicester and it could be 2-0 and I'm confident we could see that out seeing as we nearly saw out 1-0 with 10 men.
That said, I don't like criticising officials. They have a really tough job and without them we have no game. All those incidents in isolation can be excused if they're one-offs, it's just that they keep happening and nearly all of them against us, even when some of them clearly should be for us, such as Saturday's penalty incident.
Hopefully such things will start going for us in a meaningful way and we can learn from own mistakes and we can just look back on this period as teething troubles. |  |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 18:57 - Nov 5 with 699 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Constantly blaming officials on 18:10 - Nov 5 by Churchman |
Your choice as the board is home to all views, however odd. However, you might want to have a rethink on this make a point/nuance/different take stuff FB. Up to you.
I have a straight question for you. Do you think the referee and officials were balanced, even handed and fair on Saturday? Yes or no? |
I felt the officials were no different to many others. They are inconsistent, make baffling calls which affect the game for both sides.
Officiating is a thankless task. You'll be a hero to one side whilst the bstrd to the other at the same time.
Look this different take stuff. That's just me. I see things different to others. I know that. I don't begrudge those who see things differently. I'm vocal I know that but I'm a heavy user of the forum so it'll always look a certain way. I can't change that. But I've been this way for 30 odd years it's not suddenly going to change now. |  |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 19:12 - Nov 5 with 664 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Constantly blaming officials on 18:57 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
I felt the officials were no different to many others. They are inconsistent, make baffling calls which affect the game for both sides.
Officiating is a thankless task. You'll be a hero to one side whilst the bstrd to the other at the same time.
Look this different take stuff. That's just me. I see things different to others. I know that. I don't begrudge those who see things differently. I'm vocal I know that but I'm a heavy user of the forum so it'll always look a certain way. I can't change that. But I've been this way for 30 odd years it's not suddenly going to change now. |
Ah, so you're a visionary. An outlier. A freethinker. Ridiculed in his lifetime but in the future regarded as a genius.
Jesus, Issac Newton, Pablo Picasso, Leonardo da Vinci, Mahatma Gandhi, Buddha, Confucius, Christopher Columbus, Albert Einstein... and Frimmers! | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 19:21 - Nov 5 with 658 views | Churchman |
| Constantly blaming officials on 18:57 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
I felt the officials were no different to many others. They are inconsistent, make baffling calls which affect the game for both sides.
Officiating is a thankless task. You'll be a hero to one side whilst the bstrd to the other at the same time.
Look this different take stuff. That's just me. I see things different to others. I know that. I don't begrudge those who see things differently. I'm vocal I know that but I'm a heavy user of the forum so it'll always look a certain way. I can't change that. But I've been this way for 30 odd years it's not suddenly going to change now. |
It was a closed question, FB. Saturdays game - Yes or no?
If you don’t want to answer, that of course is your prerogative.
As for officiating being a thankless task, nobody forces them to do it and they are paid I believe on average £40k a year | | | |
| Constantly blaming officials on 19:24 - Nov 5 with 647 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Constantly blaming officials on 19:21 - Nov 5 by Churchman |
It was a closed question, FB. Saturdays game - Yes or no?
If you don’t want to answer, that of course is your prerogative.
As for officiating being a thankless task, nobody forces them to do it and they are paid I believe on average £40k a year |
Of course no ones forces them but without them there isn't a game.
I guess I'll have to say yes. As there were things that went not ways. Some things us town fans wouldn't have liked and likewise some leicester wouldn't have to.
Do I feel the official could have been better for both yes. Did he miss things. Yes. Did he interpret some potential fouls the wrong way yes. | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 19:55 - Nov 5 with 613 views | Churchman |
| Constantly blaming officials on 19:24 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Of course no ones forces them but without them there isn't a game.
I guess I'll have to say yes. As there were things that went not ways. Some things us town fans wouldn't have liked and likewise some leicester wouldn't have to.
Do I feel the official could have been better for both yes. Did he miss things. Yes. Did he interpret some potential fouls the wrong way yes. |
Well, at least you answered the question. Others I asked did not.
We shall agree to differ. | | | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 21:14 - Nov 5 with 571 views | SitfcB |
| Constantly blaming officials on 19:21 - Nov 5 by Churchman |
It was a closed question, FB. Saturdays game - Yes or no?
If you don’t want to answer, that of course is your prerogative.
As for officiating being a thankless task, nobody forces them to do it and they are paid I believe on average £40k a year |
He can’t answer because he didn’t even watch the game. |  |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 21:17 - Nov 5 with 555 views | SitfcB |
| Constantly blaming officials on 09:27 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
The ref didn't do anything wrong, he made a mistake and thst happens in real time.
If there is a complaint, it's that VAR didn't do its job. They are the ones with slow mo replays. |
Absolute balls.
Ref made the mistake, he should be awarding the penalty, VAR should’ve helped him out but even they failed. | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 21:18 - Nov 5 with 550 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Constantly blaming officials on 21:14 - Nov 5 by SitfcB |
He can’t answer because he didn’t even watch the game. |
I have watched it thanks sitters.
And I've answered it. [Post edited 5 Nov 2024 21:19]
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| Constantly blaming officials on 21:35 - Nov 5 with 523 views | Olcol |
| Constantly blaming officials on 09:09 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
O'Shea, Szmodics, Hirst, morsy, Phillips, burns all made mistakes on Sat.
Yet...... the dropped points was all down to the ref according to some.
Football is a game of errors, people need to get used to it. [Post edited 5 Nov 2024 9:12]
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Apart from the first 15 minutes we were on top in all stats. until the sending off. Had the penalty been given, then possibly 2-0 and still 11 v 11. How is that not changing the game. Yes we could have defended better but those series of events were huge for the players or any one interested in ITFC. They were put in that position by the referees and VAR system. | | | |
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