| Constantly blaming officials 08:42 - Nov 5 with 10201 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
Every week it is always the officials fault. Every game we have lost or drawn this season, I've read that it is because of the referee or VAR.
The red card on Saturday was definitely a second yellow offence. The red card last week at Brentford was two yellow card offences. We are not being robbed or anything like that.
But no one talks about the missed chances - O'Shea for example Saturday, 3 yards out free header, wide of the target... golden chance. Jack Clarke vs Everton etc.
No one talks about McKenna holding back the Cajuste sub when he had the chance to put him on with Clarke and Hirst and then 2mins later we are down to 10 men - last season, that change is made on the 60th min. It was a poor decision in hindsight. He doesn't get much wrong, but he got this totally wrong.
The equaliser Saturday, can Morsy kick that ball wherever he wants? Yes, but he loses it cheaply looking for a free kick. Then Burns is weak and gets bullied, but he could foul the lad etc. 10 seconds later, it's in our net. 2 points dropped in a massive home game.
It's always the officials fault if you turn a blind eye to the players/management and choose the scapegoat which are the officials. In truth, it's a reality check for most that we are in a league where we will lose more games than we will win, unfortunately we just lack the quality that is needed at this level. They've been brilliant on the whole this season, I don't think they can give much more, but they're coming up short and we're just not used to it after the last 2 seasons. |  |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 12:24 - Nov 5 with 1306 views | farkenhell |
| Constantly blaming officials on 09:18 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It was a contributing factor, but so we're the misses etc from the players.
We need to move on. |
It was by far the biggest contributing factor.
Put another way, if the penalty had been given and Phillips not sent off, then there is every likelihood that the misses/mistakes that you mentioned would not have prevented us from winning the game. |  | | |
| Constantly blaming officials on 12:25 - Nov 5 with 1299 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Constantly blaming officials on 12:21 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Tbh I honestly don't mind being alone in this. You're all mad. And explains why you get worked up about things.
Morsy gives the ball away that leads to a goal that changes the result.
But let's cry over a non penalty in which there's no garentee we'd have scored it.
Baffling. |
By your own curious logic
Morsey losing the ball affected who had possession of the ball next
It didn't affect the result....
Morsy was doing his job to the best of his ability and lost possession which is excusable
A number of people staring at a screen not seeing a foul on Chaplin is not
Still if you get off on another ridiculous take for which you have a long undistinguished history fill your boots |  | | |
| Constantly blaming officials on 12:27 - Nov 5 with 1297 views | Ryorry |
| Constantly blaming officials on 12:21 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Tbh I honestly don't mind being alone in this. You're all mad. And explains why you get worked up about things.
Morsy gives the ball away that leads to a goal that changes the result.
But let's cry over a non penalty in which there's no garentee we'd have scored it.
Baffling. |
"Baffling."
Indeed you are. But you're *our* Mr Baffling  and you've made me laugh on a grey day, so cheers :) |  |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 12:28 - Nov 5 with 1280 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Constantly blaming officials on 12:21 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Tbh I honestly don't mind being alone in this. You're all mad. And explains why you get worked up about things.
Morsy gives the ball away that leads to a goal that changes the result.
But let's cry over a non penalty in which there's no garentee we'd have scored it.
Baffling. |
When everyone disagrees with you do you not wonder if it might be you who's in the wrong?
You seem to think only the incidents that directly lead to goals affect the result and nothing else in the game does. If that's the case I don't know why we bother playing out 90+ minutes of football. |  |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 12:29 - Nov 5 with 1263 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Constantly blaming officials on 12:25 - Nov 5 by reusersfreekicks |
By your own curious logic
Morsey losing the ball affected who had possession of the ball next
It didn't affect the result....
Morsy was doing his job to the best of his ability and lost possession which is excusable
A number of people staring at a screen not seeing a foul on Chaplin is not
Still if you get off on another ridiculous take for which you have a long undistinguished history fill your boots |
Oo that's a good point indeed. That does fall under affecting the game not the result I agree. Well done for seeing how things affect games but not results.
Glad you agree. Well done [Post edited 5 Nov 2024 12:30]
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| Constantly blaming officials on 12:34 - Nov 5 with 1244 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Constantly blaming officials on 12:28 - Nov 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
When everyone disagrees with you do you not wonder if it might be you who's in the wrong?
You seem to think only the incidents that directly lead to goals affect the result and nothing else in the game does. If that's the case I don't know why we bother playing out 90+ minutes of football. |
Nah. You've got lots of anger about it so you'll only see it one way. If you didn't you wouldn't be angry about it. | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 12:39 - Nov 5 with 1230 views | ReusersTown |
| Constantly blaming officials on 10:31 - Nov 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I appreciate that youre generally on here trolling.
But thats a good post. |
Haha, having to agree with Elephant, and you're still not starting to question yourself??? Does that not say it all. | | | |
| Constantly blaming officials on 12:48 - Nov 5 with 1207 views | farkenhell |
| Constantly blaming officials on 12:02 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Lol. It's sweet you and flash don't understand the difference between affecting a game to affecting a result. |
Would you agree that it was a game-changing moment that ultimately affected the result?
By that, I mean we were 1-0 up, comfortably in control, denied an opportunity to score a second goal, didn't look like conceding an equaliser. Then one of our better players was sent off, the game changed almost immediately, Leicester used the numerical advantage well to create opportunities, they took one of those opportunities, meaning the result ended up 1-1.
Can you agree with that? | | | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 12:59 - Nov 5 with 1186 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Constantly blaming officials on 12:29 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Oo that's a good point indeed. That does fall under affecting the game not the result I agree. Well done for seeing how things affect games but not results.
Glad you agree. Well done [Post edited 5 Nov 2024 12:30]
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Think irony and sarcasm float above your fixed viewpoint don't they. | | | |
| Constantly blaming officials on 13:12 - Nov 5 with 1163 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Constantly blaming officials on 12:34 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Nah. You've got lots of anger about it so you'll only see it one way. If you didn't you wouldn't be angry about it. |
People can be angry about stuff and also be correct.
Yes I'm angry about Saturday, as most Ipswich supporters would be.
I'm not angry about your braindead views, if anything they offer light relief. | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 13:38 - Nov 5 with 1125 views | braveblue |
Amazing. You got it wrong on every single incident!!! | | | |
| Constantly blaming officials on 14:27 - Nov 5 with 1061 views | mrfixit426 |
| Constantly blaming officials on 12:23 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Not clever just correct. |
I see you're back to full on trolling again. Leopards never change their spots. |  | | |
| Constantly blaming officials on 14:46 - Nov 5 with 1044 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Constantly blaming officials on 12:34 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Nah. You've got lots of anger about it so you'll only see it one way. If you didn't you wouldn't be angry about it. |
You have to be trolling surely ? |  |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 14:59 - Nov 5 with 1024 views | OldFart71 |
It was always going to be difficult as other teams have found when going from Championship to Premier League. We went from League One to Premier League. We basically got rid on a full team plus a sub and had to replace them. Unlike many of our competitors we got 12 players for a little over 100 million. For many in this League you get two players max for that amount. Most of our players came from Championship sides and some who were already with us struggled a bit even in the Championship. A player like Omari who was ripping it up in the Championship hasn't reached those heights yet. We have had several injuries and not a totally settle side, That's not making excuses, that's a fact. When you add in several injustices we have had on the field when we were always liable to struggle it just magnifies that struggle. Many players have made errors whether that be Muric, Burns, Morsy or whoever but that's the difference between the Premier League and any other League that your mistakes are punished. I hope we survive because if we don't it just goes to prove how the Premier League is becoming a closed shop. | | | |
| Constantly blaming officials on 15:30 - Nov 5 with 968 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Constantly blaming officials on 14:27 - Nov 5 by mrfixit426 |
I see you're back to full on trolling again. Leopards never change their spots. |
There's nothing to be trolling about.
Flash said you're not a town fan unless you're angry as the ref changed the result. Just been a good debate about that tbh. | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 15:33 - Nov 5 with 964 views | farkenhell |
| Constantly blaming officials on 14:59 - Nov 5 by OldFart71 |
It was always going to be difficult as other teams have found when going from Championship to Premier League. We went from League One to Premier League. We basically got rid on a full team plus a sub and had to replace them. Unlike many of our competitors we got 12 players for a little over 100 million. For many in this League you get two players max for that amount. Most of our players came from Championship sides and some who were already with us struggled a bit even in the Championship. A player like Omari who was ripping it up in the Championship hasn't reached those heights yet. We have had several injuries and not a totally settle side, That's not making excuses, that's a fact. When you add in several injustices we have had on the field when we were always liable to struggle it just magnifies that struggle. Many players have made errors whether that be Muric, Burns, Morsy or whoever but that's the difference between the Premier League and any other League that your mistakes are punished. I hope we survive because if we don't it just goes to prove how the Premier League is becoming a closed shop. |
Last Saturday, I thought we looked like a coherent team more than in any other game this season (including Villa, when we played very well). Well, at least until the Phillips dismissal.
Encouraging and hopefully we can continue to progress on Sunday. | | | |
| Constantly blaming officials on 16:34 - Nov 5 with 886 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Constantly blaming officials on 15:30 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
There's nothing to be trolling about.
Flash said you're not a town fan unless you're angry as the ref changed the result. Just been a good debate about that tbh. |
You little liar. I said nothing of the sort!
I said (aimed at the OP specifically) "If you don't think Saturday's result was affected by the officials then you're not really an Ipswich supporter (and you don't know much about football generally)."
And why are you trying to shift things onto me anyway?
The debate is now that Frimmers thinks the only things within games that affect the result are the incidents that lead directly to the goals. Nothing else - sendings off, pens not given, etc. etc. has any baring on the result.
I know you've embarrassed yourself in this thread but don't lie about what I said to try and cover your ass. | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 16:53 - Nov 5 with 864 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Constantly blaming officials on 16:34 - Nov 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You little liar. I said nothing of the sort!
I said (aimed at the OP specifically) "If you don't think Saturday's result was affected by the officials then you're not really an Ipswich supporter (and you don't know much about football generally)."
And why are you trying to shift things onto me anyway?
The debate is now that Frimmers thinks the only things within games that affect the result are the incidents that lead directly to the goals. Nothing else - sendings off, pens not given, etc. etc. has any baring on the result.
I know you've embarrassed yourself in this thread but don't lie about what I said to try and cover your ass. |
Shifting I'm explaing why we ended up having the discussion we had. You've posted your own comments to the OP that your not a town supporter if you dont think the result was affected by the officials.
So my whole debate with you about that has been about it not affecting the result. That's pretty clear flash.
I'm not embrassed at all thanks. I don't agree with you and your opinion on it. Doesn't make me a non town supporter thank you. :)
BTW. For those saying trolling all that rubbish. This to me was a perfect example of a debated discussion. I for one enjoyed it. Flash you went a little personal with idiot etc but overall I've liked it.
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| Constantly blaming officials on 17:00 - Nov 5 with 840 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Constantly blaming officials on 16:53 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Shifting I'm explaing why we ended up having the discussion we had. You've posted your own comments to the OP that your not a town supporter if you dont think the result was affected by the officials.
So my whole debate with you about that has been about it not affecting the result. That's pretty clear flash.
I'm not embrassed at all thanks. I don't agree with you and your opinion on it. Doesn't make me a non town supporter thank you. :)
BTW. For those saying trolling all that rubbish. This to me was a perfect example of a debated discussion. I for one enjoyed it. Flash you went a little personal with idiot etc but overall I've liked it.
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Right. So why have you just said "Flash said you're not a town fan unless you're angry as the ref changed the result"? That's not what I said is it?
It's not just me you don't agree with. It's pretty much everyone in this thread, the cast of Blue Monday (who I've just watched discussing it) and anyone with an ounce of logic in their nut.
Let's be clear, your 'opinion' is that the only things that affect a result are the incidents that lead to the goals themselves. Nothing else has any influence. That's your considered opinion about football. | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 17:07 - Nov 5 with 823 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Constantly blaming officials on 17:00 - Nov 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Right. So why have you just said "Flash said you're not a town fan unless you're angry as the ref changed the result"? That's not what I said is it?
It's not just me you don't agree with. It's pretty much everyone in this thread, the cast of Blue Monday (who I've just watched discussing it) and anyone with an ounce of logic in their nut.
Let's be clear, your 'opinion' is that the only things that affect a result are the incidents that lead to the goals themselves. Nothing else has any influence. That's your considered opinion about football. |
Right. So why have you just said "Flash said you're not a town fan unless you're angry as the ref changed the result"? That's not what I said is it?
You basically did flash. You may not feel that's how you've written it, but that's how it comes across.
I don't have a need to agree with people flash. You be you and they be them.
But no I don't think anything affects a result unless it actually changes the scoreline.
Someone pointed out earlier a misconception of mine with the morsy thing which I agreed perhaps went against my thought so I did agree with them there.
But no. Unless something actually changes a scoreline then no there is no affect on the result just an affect of a game. | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 17:12 - Nov 5 with 818 views | sotd78 |
May be all the factors are true. Your points true and bad officials. In which case we're going to be fine going forward? No? |  |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 17:36 - Nov 5 with 791 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Constantly blaming officials on 17:07 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Right. So why have you just said "Flash said you're not a town fan unless you're angry as the ref changed the result"? That's not what I said is it?
You basically did flash. You may not feel that's how you've written it, but that's how it comes across.
I don't have a need to agree with people flash. You be you and they be them.
But no I don't think anything affects a result unless it actually changes the scoreline.
Someone pointed out earlier a misconception of mine with the morsy thing which I agreed perhaps went against my thought so I did agree with them there.
But no. Unless something actually changes a scoreline then no there is no affect on the result just an affect of a game. |
No. You can't just make up what I said, or say that's how it comes across to you, and then it's true. That's as fecked up as your logic that nothing in the game affects the result other than the incidents that lead to goals.
I said "If you don't think Saturday's result was affected by the officials..." I did not say "You're not a town fan unless you're angry". I also said "the result was affected" not "the ref changed the result". You are just making up stuff.
On this whole 'things don't affect the scoreline' argument, do you not think Morsy would be extra tired because he couldn't be substituted, and also because he's working that bit harder, due to the Philips sending off? So that may have impacted Morsy's attempt to deal with the situation that directly led to the equaliser? He was basically goosed because he's had to work harder? | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 17:41 - Nov 5 with 769 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Constantly blaming officials on 17:36 - Nov 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No. You can't just make up what I said, or say that's how it comes across to you, and then it's true. That's as fecked up as your logic that nothing in the game affects the result other than the incidents that lead to goals.
I said "If you don't think Saturday's result was affected by the officials..." I did not say "You're not a town fan unless you're angry". I also said "the result was affected" not "the ref changed the result". You are just making up stuff.
On this whole 'things don't affect the scoreline' argument, do you not think Morsy would be extra tired because he couldn't be substituted, and also because he's working that bit harder, due to the Philips sending off? So that may have impacted Morsy's attempt to deal with the situation that directly led to the equaliser? He was basically goosed because he's had to work harder? |
I can say how it comes across to me as you've done with posts of mine before when I hadn't meant it the way it came across. Its not for you to determine how I took it.
As I've said all along. I appreciate the things that affect the game so yes I agree morsy may have been tired. That Is an affect of the game.
And the circle continues. Affected the result/ Changed the result. Same thing. Neither Happened tho. | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 18:03 - Nov 5 with 737 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Constantly blaming officials on 17:41 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
I can say how it comes across to me as you've done with posts of mine before when I hadn't meant it the way it came across. Its not for you to determine how I took it.
As I've said all along. I appreciate the things that affect the game so yes I agree morsy may have been tired. That Is an affect of the game.
And the circle continues. Affected the result/ Changed the result. Same thing. Neither Happened tho. |
Wow.
So we've learned two things about you today.
1. You don't believe anything can affect the result other than things that directly lead to goals... and even then you don't think Morsy's tiredness (linked to the Phillips sending off) could've affected the result... even though it directly led to a goal.
2. It doesn't matter what people actually say... how YOU decide to interpret them is what matters, and we can't question that.
You should work for Trump. Absolutely bonkers. | |
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| Constantly blaming officials on 18:07 - Nov 5 with 731 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Constantly blaming officials on 18:03 - Nov 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Wow.
So we've learned two things about you today.
1. You don't believe anything can affect the result other than things that directly lead to goals... and even then you don't think Morsy's tiredness (linked to the Phillips sending off) could've affected the result... even though it directly led to a goal.
2. It doesn't matter what people actually say... how YOU decide to interpret them is what matters, and we can't question that.
You should work for Trump. Absolutely bonkers. |
You can question it all you like. I don't need you to agree with me. | |
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