| Fans Forum bingo…. 18:25 - Nov 19 with 9948 views | ITFC_Forever |
I’m going for moans about the points system for away games… |  |
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| Fans Forum bingo…. on 09:55 - Nov 20 with 1092 views | HighgateBlue |
| Fans Forum bingo…. on 21:31 - Nov 19 by Zx1988 |
I think it also dovetails in with the club's/Ashton's desire to try and stop the interesting/awkward questions from even being asked.
When he's dictating to Radio Suffolk what he will/won't be asked about during a fan phone-in, it only really leaves the Fans' Forum as the only place in which the awkward questions can be freely asked, even if they won't get a decent answer. |
As with most people, I think Ashton is doing a very good job, and the overwhelming sense should remain one of positivity.
However, it seems to me that if you take the job as CEO annnnd Chairman, thus removing a really important element of scrutiny and oversight, then scrutiny by fans becomes even more important, and difficult questions should be respected and answered. Without just resorting to cliches and management speak. |  | | |
| Fans Forum bingo…. on 10:11 - Nov 20 with 1043 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Fans Forum bingo…. on 09:55 - Nov 20 by HighgateBlue |
As with most people, I think Ashton is doing a very good job, and the overwhelming sense should remain one of positivity.
However, it seems to me that if you take the job as CEO annnnd Chairman, thus removing a really important element of scrutiny and oversight, then scrutiny by fans becomes even more important, and difficult questions should be respected and answered. Without just resorting to cliches and management speak. |
Thing is, I get the desire for positivity and no one is taking that away, but I don't see any issue with questions being asked, you're not being negative, just wanting to know things that hasn't already made its way to public airing.
There are little things I dont agree with when it comes to MA and the way he comes across, I get he has a tough job and no doubts he's done very well at what he's done, but prime example last night, he must have said about 5 times, just talk to us, please don't be afraid to contact us, yet the single lady who said she was scared and had contacted the club, found she got no reply. |  |
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| Fans Forum bingo…. on 10:52 - Nov 20 with 989 views | tcblue |
| Fans Forum bingo…. on 18:27 - Nov 19 by SitfcB |
That’s going to be the big one!
Wardley/Sheeran fight/concert even though it’s been answered millions of times.
Can’t leave the stadium my normal way. |
Did they talk about Wardley and Sheeran fighting? I'd go and see that.
Their joint concert...not so much |  | | |
| Fans Forum bingo…. on 11:18 - Nov 20 with 949 views | Churchman |
| Fans Forum bingo…. on 09:55 - Nov 20 by HighgateBlue |
As with most people, I think Ashton is doing a very good job, and the overwhelming sense should remain one of positivity.
However, it seems to me that if you take the job as CEO annnnd Chairman, thus removing a really important element of scrutiny and oversight, then scrutiny by fans becomes even more important, and difficult questions should be respected and answered. Without just resorting to cliches and management speak. |
In a normal environment I’d agree with you, but I suspect the oversight role is done rigorously by Schwartz and the American owners. I suspect as time moved on after the takeover, O’Leary’s involvement at the club had diminished considerably, especially as he lives the other side of the country.
I’ve made a lot of assumptions based on how I think ITFC is set up and may be completely wrong. I guess that given what is happening at Ipswich seems to be broadly working, don’t change it. For now.
As for fan scrutiny, given how many dimwits appeared to be at the event last night I’d query the value in that unless you are selective in who you ask and on what topic. [Post edited 20 Nov 2024 11:20]
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| Fans Forum bingo…. on 11:54 - Nov 20 with 873 views | Churchman |
| Fans Forum bingo…. on 10:11 - Nov 20 by FrimleyBlue |
Thing is, I get the desire for positivity and no one is taking that away, but I don't see any issue with questions being asked, you're not being negative, just wanting to know things that hasn't already made its way to public airing.
There are little things I dont agree with when it comes to MA and the way he comes across, I get he has a tough job and no doubts he's done very well at what he's done, but prime example last night, he must have said about 5 times, just talk to us, please don't be afraid to contact us, yet the single lady who said she was scared and had contacted the club, found she got no reply. |
Ashton pointed out somebody in front and gave another name. What more did you want him to say? I know you don’t like the bloke much. I’m not sure I’d want to work for him either, but then I don’t know him. What I do know is where the club was and now is, while accepting that not everything will be perfect first time every time. Mistakes will be made.
There’s no problem in asking questions at an event. It’s what it’s for but you have to accept you are not always going to get answers or the answer you want to hear. For example, the endless question on the rubbish PA system I.e. what are you doing about it? Nothing. Not necessarily an answer people wanted, but at least the reason why was given.
In terms of Comms, I do think the club has gone backwards on that in the last year. I get the reasons why, but I believe you can always do better and that needs working at.
Stuff on McKenna in five years time, hand rails, PA systems, hearing endless (slightly cringy) praise of them after the first questioner - waste of time. Asking about Broadhead? Waste of time. McKenna was never going to say he’s surplus to requirements luggage so he gave the usual valued squad member answer, which he might well be.
Questions around how the club works, plans for the fanzone area, behind west stand, Churchmans land, relations with the council over planning permission, Broja process fact or fiction, how are relationships with the American owners did anything tangible come out of last week’s visit, talking of global reach, how is the club utilising that. These are the kind of things that interest me, but probably not many other people. And that’s the problem with events like last night. Different people are interested in different things.
The two blokes either end? Waste of time. Added no value. Audience? Some good some bad. Q&A some good some bad. Is this Forum worthwhile? Yes, but I think once a year is sufficient and there’s lots that can be improved on staging it - in my view. [Post edited 20 Nov 2024 12:12]
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| Fans Forum bingo…. on 12:30 - Nov 20 with 791 views | itfcjoe |
We get people moaning on here about this every year, like if they turned up it would be like Frost/Nixon or Emily Maitlis and Prince Andrew.
The people speaking are experienced media professionals, people on the floor get a question - therefore the club will say exactly what it wants to say and no opportunity to press for any push back.
There may be the odd pointless question, we may get the odd titbit of info we didn't know before - but people should go rather than criticise and understand that all this will ever be is a little PR piece for the club |  |
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| Fans Forum bingo…. on 12:40 - Nov 20 with 732 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Fans Forum bingo…. on 11:54 - Nov 20 by Churchman |
Ashton pointed out somebody in front and gave another name. What more did you want him to say? I know you don’t like the bloke much. I’m not sure I’d want to work for him either, but then I don’t know him. What I do know is where the club was and now is, while accepting that not everything will be perfect first time every time. Mistakes will be made.
There’s no problem in asking questions at an event. It’s what it’s for but you have to accept you are not always going to get answers or the answer you want to hear. For example, the endless question on the rubbish PA system I.e. what are you doing about it? Nothing. Not necessarily an answer people wanted, but at least the reason why was given.
In terms of Comms, I do think the club has gone backwards on that in the last year. I get the reasons why, but I believe you can always do better and that needs working at.
Stuff on McKenna in five years time, hand rails, PA systems, hearing endless (slightly cringy) praise of them after the first questioner - waste of time. Asking about Broadhead? Waste of time. McKenna was never going to say he’s surplus to requirements luggage so he gave the usual valued squad member answer, which he might well be.
Questions around how the club works, plans for the fanzone area, behind west stand, Churchmans land, relations with the council over planning permission, Broja process fact or fiction, how are relationships with the American owners did anything tangible come out of last week’s visit, talking of global reach, how is the club utilising that. These are the kind of things that interest me, but probably not many other people. And that’s the problem with events like last night. Different people are interested in different things.
The two blokes either end? Waste of time. Added no value. Audience? Some good some bad. Q&A some good some bad. Is this Forum worthwhile? Yes, but I think once a year is sufficient and there’s lots that can be improved on staging it - in my view. [Post edited 20 Nov 2024 12:12]
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You know I don't like the bloke much? I do. I don't agree with some stuff but I think he's a bloody good ceo. I've not once said I Don't like him. I may be happier to discuss his mistakes but that's just because I think it's healthy to discuss good and bad things.
I agree with you some of the questions were a waste of time as we've already had the answers. Any new questions are welcome. Altho broady playing was a bit daft.
In regards to the first point. I just felt like she had done what he told others to do and she didn't have the contact back. It wasn't about how he responded to her specifically but more of him saying to all to contact the club when in reality people have contacted the club without any response so felt like it's a bit of a false directive.
But tbh looking at your reply. You actually do seem to be viewing the fans forum similar to me. Questions being asked thst provide answers that could be of interest.
The mckenna question I thought was excellent as was his answer as explained in another thread. But that's pretty much the only question raised last night that wasn't already asked last season and one where there wasn't really any updates to get. | |
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| Fans Forum bingo…. on 12:44 - Nov 20 with 724 views | LankHenners |
| Fans Forum bingo…. on 12:30 - Nov 20 by itfcjoe |
We get people moaning on here about this every year, like if they turned up it would be like Frost/Nixon or Emily Maitlis and Prince Andrew.
The people speaking are experienced media professionals, people on the floor get a question - therefore the club will say exactly what it wants to say and no opportunity to press for any push back.
There may be the odd pointless question, we may get the odd titbit of info we didn't know before - but people should go rather than criticise and understand that all this will ever be is a little PR piece for the club |
Thought the questions were alright on the whole myself. As you say you get the occasional daft one or someone just taking the opportunity to pretend they're an important spokesperson for the fans, but I think people (i.e. commenters on here/social media) go into these now with a very low view of what could be asked so every question is picked apart and derided as a bad question regardless of what it is.
Think these things are good for different voices to be heard as what might seem like a minority issue to most (and therefore doesn't get highlighted) gets a chance to be put to the men in charge, even if Ashton did fob people off a bit with anything that could be perceived as mildly critical of the club. |  |
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| Fans Forum bingo…. on 12:49 - Nov 20 with 700 views | itfcjoe |
| Fans Forum bingo…. on 12:44 - Nov 20 by LankHenners |
Thought the questions were alright on the whole myself. As you say you get the occasional daft one or someone just taking the opportunity to pretend they're an important spokesperson for the fans, but I think people (i.e. commenters on here/social media) go into these now with a very low view of what could be asked so every question is picked apart and derided as a bad question regardless of what it is.
Think these things are good for different voices to be heard as what might seem like a minority issue to most (and therefore doesn't get highlighted) gets a chance to be put to the men in charge, even if Ashton did fob people off a bit with anything that could be perceived as mildly critical of the club. |
And the instant reaction is to fob them off but then take it away and consider the point if required.
I know someone who asked a critical question last night, he was collared after the event by relevant people - given a slightly more franker answer which they obviously didn't want to say publicly, asked for some ideas, some details taken......they will listen but they aren't going to go chapter and verse on a live broadcast to a room of people | |
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| Fans Forum bingo…. on 13:34 - Nov 20 with 608 views | Vic |
| Fans Forum bingo…. on 12:49 - Nov 20 by itfcjoe |
And the instant reaction is to fob them off but then take it away and consider the point if required.
I know someone who asked a critical question last night, he was collared after the event by relevant people - given a slightly more franker answer which they obviously didn't want to say publicly, asked for some ideas, some details taken......they will listen but they aren't going to go chapter and verse on a live broadcast to a room of people |
"I know someone who asked a critical question last night, he was collared after the event by relevant people - given a slightly more franker answer which they obviously didn't want to say publicly, asked for some ideas, some details taken......"
That's really good to hear. |  |
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| Fans Forum bingo…. on 13:46 - Nov 20 with 579 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Fans Forum bingo…. on 12:49 - Nov 20 by itfcjoe |
And the instant reaction is to fob them off but then take it away and consider the point if required.
I know someone who asked a critical question last night, he was collared after the event by relevant people - given a slightly more franker answer which they obviously didn't want to say publicly, asked for some ideas, some details taken......they will listen but they aren't going to go chapter and verse on a live broadcast to a room of people |
Was it by any chance the disabled handrail question? | |
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