| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game 00:01 - Nov 27 with 4104 views | DublinBlue84 |
Looks very bad for the refereeing fraternity now.
Media claiming now that Coote booked a Leeds player Ezgjan Alioski in a match against West Brom in October 2019, and messaged a friend saying: "I hope you backed as discussed"
This takes it to another level. [Post edited 27 Nov 2024 0:04]
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 00:16 - Nov 27 with 3499 views | Zx1988 |
If true, I'm not at all surprised.
The previous leaks seemed to be so much more than just a falling out with a chum - he's irked the wrong people and they've decided to throw him under the bus. | |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 08:24 - Nov 27 with 2986 views | GlasgowBlue |
Worth remembering that this is the bloke who was on VAR when a penalty was given against Davis at Man City but didn’t even bother reviewing the foul on Davis at the other end. Who knows if that decision was bent. |  |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 08:28 - Nov 27 with 2955 views | Zx1988 |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 08:24 - Nov 27 by GlasgowBlue |
Worth remembering that this is the bloke who was on VAR when a penalty was given against Davis at Man City but didn’t even bother reviewing the foul on Davis at the other end. Who knows if that decision was bent. |
It wouldn't surprise me if stuff like this is more widespread than we'd like to think.
How hard can it really be for a referee to surreptitiously influence bookings-related markets - stuff like players to be booked, or number of bookings etc.,
We've all seen so many games where referees have been crazily strict or lenient with cards, or have carded players for the most innocuous of challenges. | |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 08:41 - Nov 27 with 2883 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 08:28 - Nov 27 by Zx1988 |
It wouldn't surprise me if stuff like this is more widespread than we'd like to think.
How hard can it really be for a referee to surreptitiously influence bookings-related markets - stuff like players to be booked, or number of bookings etc.,
We've all seen so many games where referees have been crazily strict or lenient with cards, or have carded players for the most innocuous of challenges. |
The widespread use of No Of Bookings in the betting markets means that you should be able to appeal yellows as a club I think.
No payout until the booking is confirmed after the match.
But then I've always seen it as weird that you can appeal reds but not yellows, based I assume only on the sheer level of administration. An excuse levelled by an organisation that spends millions each year on subjective VAR decisions. |  |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 08:54 - Nov 27 with 2806 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Let's not tar all refs with the same brush. |  |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 08:57 - Nov 27 with 2772 views | Keno |
was hid friend Clive **** ****** ********************** Thomas? |  |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 09:14 - Nov 27 with 2710 views | Guthrum |
One wonders how this information was obtained and has only now come out. Is it genuine? |  |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 09:18 - Nov 27 with 2677 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 08:24 - Nov 27 by GlasgowBlue |
Worth remembering that this is the bloke who was on VAR when a penalty was given against Davis at Man City but didn’t even bother reviewing the foul on Davis at the other end. Who knows if that decision was bent. |
We demand a replay! |  |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 09:20 - Nov 27 with 2669 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 09:14 - Nov 27 by Guthrum |
One wonders how this information was obtained and has only now come out. Is it genuine? |
I’ve not seen about this incident with the Leeds player but it seems all the stuff the other week was genuine.
He’s obviously majority p1ssed off someone he used to be close with. |  |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 09:39 - Nov 27 with 2539 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Q1. Did the player commit a foul that was a yellow card offence?
No more questions. | |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 09:53 - Nov 27 with 2461 views | Guthrum |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 09:20 - Nov 27 by Reuser_is_God |
I’ve not seen about this incident with the Leeds player but it seems all the stuff the other week was genuine.
He’s obviously majority p1ssed off someone he used to be close with. |
I'm separating the two allegations. This second one suddenly coming out just as the first is cooling off seems a tad suspicious.
Tho the Sun article states that Coote acknowleges that the exchange took place. But also that the card was not contrived, being a genuine foul. | |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 09:57 - Nov 27 with 2421 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 08:41 - Nov 27 by Cheltenham_Blue |
The widespread use of No Of Bookings in the betting markets means that you should be able to appeal yellows as a club I think.
No payout until the booking is confirmed after the match.
But then I've always seen it as weird that you can appeal reds but not yellows, based I assume only on the sheer level of administration. An excuse levelled by an organisation that spends millions each year on subjective VAR decisions. |
There were officials many years ago who had their own group chat, one of the rumours at the time was that at one point there was an official who basically drew a number out of the hat on who he was booking that day, that was without even a lineup being known. |  |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:01 - Nov 27 with 2197 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 00:16 - Nov 27 by Zx1988 |
If true, I'm not at all surprised.
The previous leaks seemed to be so much more than just a falling out with a chum - he's irked the wrong people and they've decided to throw him under the bus. |
I’m surprised. I can only think of one game where I seriously considered whether the ref was on the take and even then you assume they can’t be. If he did tip someone off ahead of the game (whether the eventual card was for a genuine foul or not) that’s huge imo. If it’s all true and proven I hope he’s never allowed anywhere near the game again, at any level. |  |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:17 - Nov 27 with 2133 views | OldFart71 |
This type of thing along with dubious decisions has gone on for years. Referees allegedly being "looked after" in order to facilitate a correct result. Whilst it cannot be proven a result years ago involving Ipswich v West Ham and a certain Clive Thomas where he disallowed two perfectly good Town goals is just one of the many over the years. Whilst it will be strongly refuted it always appears that big clubs get decisions that smaller one's don't. But this runs deeper than Refs as several players over the years have been collared for suspicious betting. But then it goes on in many sports. That's not saying it's right and I suppose we have to question why if it's a player in the Premier League or a very well paid sportsperson why they need to make more money. Greed I suppose. | | | |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:19 - Nov 27 with 2103 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:17 - Nov 27 by OldFart71 |
This type of thing along with dubious decisions has gone on for years. Referees allegedly being "looked after" in order to facilitate a correct result. Whilst it cannot be proven a result years ago involving Ipswich v West Ham and a certain Clive Thomas where he disallowed two perfectly good Town goals is just one of the many over the years. Whilst it will be strongly refuted it always appears that big clubs get decisions that smaller one's don't. But this runs deeper than Refs as several players over the years have been collared for suspicious betting. But then it goes on in many sports. That's not saying it's right and I suppose we have to question why if it's a player in the Premier League or a very well paid sportsperson why they need to make more money. Greed I suppose. |
I haven't see the Leeds incident.
Was it a clear booking? | |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:37 - Nov 27 with 2018 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 08:24 - Nov 27 by GlasgowBlue |
Worth remembering that this is the bloke who was on VAR when a penalty was given against Davis at Man City but didn’t even bother reviewing the foul on Davis at the other end. Who knows if that decision was bent. |
The Alioski booking was a pretty clear booking, and no one disputed it. | |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:39 - Nov 27 with 2000 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:17 - Nov 27 by OldFart71 |
This type of thing along with dubious decisions has gone on for years. Referees allegedly being "looked after" in order to facilitate a correct result. Whilst it cannot be proven a result years ago involving Ipswich v West Ham and a certain Clive Thomas where he disallowed two perfectly good Town goals is just one of the many over the years. Whilst it will be strongly refuted it always appears that big clubs get decisions that smaller one's don't. But this runs deeper than Refs as several players over the years have been collared for suspicious betting. But then it goes on in many sports. That's not saying it's right and I suppose we have to question why if it's a player in the Premier League or a very well paid sportsperson why they need to make more money. Greed I suppose. |
I've seen the incident now.
Pretty clear booking that no one disputed at the time. | |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:41 - Nov 27 with 1993 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 09:53 - Nov 27 by Guthrum |
I'm separating the two allegations. This second one suddenly coming out just as the first is cooling off seems a tad suspicious.
Tho the Sun article states that Coote acknowleges that the exchange took place. But also that the card was not contrived, being a genuine foul. |
It does look like a genuine booking that wasn't disputed at the time. | |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:42 - Nov 27 with 1970 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:41 - Nov 27 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It does look like a genuine booking that wasn't disputed at the time. |
You think it was a booking? You should have mentioned it. |  | | |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:43 - Nov 27 with 1972 views | BarcaBlue |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:19 - Nov 27 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I haven't see the Leeds incident.
Was it a clear booking? |
Bookings are highly subjective, an innocuous foul could lead to a booking if it's deemed to be persistent or one not given depending on the way the ref sees the interaction and game as a whole, much like Delap on Sunday. Just seeing the incident wouldn't make it a clear booking, or not.
Who knows if the ref went into the game with a plan to book a particular player and didn't take anything else into account? The text message suggests that may well have been the case. |  | | |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:43 - Nov 27 with 1955 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:42 - Nov 27 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
You think it was a booking? You should have mentioned it. |
Just adding some detail to all the conjecture. | |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:45 - Nov 27 with 1940 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:43 - Nov 27 by BarcaBlue |
Bookings are highly subjective, an innocuous foul could lead to a booking if it's deemed to be persistent or one not given depending on the way the ref sees the interaction and game as a whole, much like Delap on Sunday. Just seeing the incident wouldn't make it a clear booking, or not.
Who knows if the ref went into the game with a plan to book a particular player and didn't take anything else into account? The text message suggests that may well have been the case. |
This one was clear and not disputed.
There are degrees of subjectivity, and this one was not highly subjective. 👍 | |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:48 - Nov 27 with 1880 views | BarcaBlue |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:45 - Nov 27 by Marshalls_Mullet |
This one was clear and not disputed.
There are degrees of subjectivity, and this one was not highly subjective. 👍 |
According to Man Utd fans the defender could have been killed by Delap's push and Evans' jaw could have been broken by the blatant elbow. It's all subjective. | | | |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:53 - Nov 27 with 1856 views | LankHenners |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:41 - Nov 27 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It does look like a genuine booking that wasn't disputed at the time. |
Not the point though is it?
Alioski was the sort of player you'd fancy for a booking - if the story is true then Coote could have tipped someone off he was going to book Alioski, knowing that the player was the type that would give an opportunity to do so.
And even more to the point, if the story is true then whether it was a definite yellow or not is irrelevant - a professional ref should very obviously not be engaging in potential spot fixing conversations. |  |
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| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 12:09 - Nov 27 with 1759 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Coote discussed giving player yellow before game on 11:48 - Nov 27 by BarcaBlue |
According to Man Utd fans the defender could have been killed by Delap's push and Evans' jaw could have been broken by the blatant elbow. It's all subjective. |
I was talking about the subjectivity of the Alioski challenge.
Happy to agree to differ. | |
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