| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. 13:36 - Jan 13 with 4769 views | Pinewoodblue |
Not just the Leicester/ Forest/ Everton but much bigger clubs sailing close to wind. Have seen Chelsea, ManU & Newcastle mentioned. |  |
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| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 13:58 - Jan 13 with 4388 views | ArnieM |
They’ll all get off with smacked wrists won’t they, so what is the point of these rules. They’re practically unenforceable as these so called big clubs just call their bluff. |  |
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| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 13:59 - Jan 13 with 4361 views | BseaBlue |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 13:58 - Jan 13 by ArnieM |
They’ll all get off with smacked wrists won’t they, so what is the point of these rules. They’re practically unenforceable as these so called big clubs just call their bluff. |
That was the first thing I though. Or they will get punishments and just appeal their way around it. |  | | |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 13:59 - Jan 13 with 4361 views | _clive_baker_ |
Can't wait for them to get their 1 point deductions, deferred for 30 years. |  | | |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 14:02 - Jan 13 with 4279 views | Trequartista |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 13:58 - Jan 13 by ArnieM |
They’ll all get off with smacked wrists won’t they, so what is the point of these rules. They’re practically unenforceable as these so called big clubs just call their bluff. |
Were Forest and Everton not docked points last season? |  |
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| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 14:04 - Jan 13 with 4213 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 13:59 - Jan 13 by _clive_baker_ |
Can't wait for them to get their 1 point deductions, deferred for 30 years. |
I reckon the PL are going to be champing at the bit to give them a decent deduction after they were made to look silly last time to be fair. |  | | |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 14:06 - Jan 13 with 4169 views | bluefunk |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 13:58 - Jan 13 by ArnieM |
They’ll all get off with smacked wrists won’t they, so what is the point of these rules. They’re practically unenforceable as these so called big clubs just call their bluff. |
Forest and Everton got points deductions last season, why would that not happen this season? |  | | |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 14:08 - Jan 13 with 4074 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 14:02 - Jan 13 by Trequartista |
Were Forest and Everton not docked points last season? |
It is rolling three year period so 2 of the 3 years that lead a deduction last season will still be taken into account this time around. | |
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| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 14:33 - Jan 13 with 3752 views | Yppswyche |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 14:04 - Jan 13 by tractorboy1978 |
I reckon the PL are going to be champing at the bit to give them a decent deduction after they were made to look silly last time to be fair. |
This was what happened last season, and the independent panel that reviewed them on appeal cut them to pittance.. |  | | |
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| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 14:36 - Jan 13 with 3678 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 14:33 - Jan 13 by Yppswyche |
This was what happened last season, and the independent panel that reviewed them on appeal cut them to pittance.. |
They got off on a loophole last year that they can't use this year. That was literally the only reason no action was taken. | | | |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 15:45 - Jan 13 with 3165 views | Yppswyche |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 14:36 - Jan 13 by tractorboy1978 |
They got off on a loophole last year that they can't use this year. That was literally the only reason no action was taken. |
I meant the other clubs involved, who were docked points last season. Leicester essentially deferred their points deduction to when they go down to the championship next season, and the EFL will be licking their lips at fairly shafting Leicester, after they’ve gotten away with cheating them twice now. Delicious. | | | |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 16:39 - Jan 13 with 2689 views | ArnieM |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 14:02 - Jan 13 by Trequartista |
Were Forest and Everton not docked points last season? |
I think so, but this charge seems to be with regards to something else…don’t ask me what though. | |
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| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 16:41 - Jan 13 with 2659 views | ArnieM |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 14:06 - Jan 13 by bluefunk |
Forest and Everton got points deductions last season, why would that not happen this season? |
I really hope you’re right on this…. Leicester especially pees me off as they keep walking away. From this type of th8ng …. Thinking about prior to our administration, I’m sure they walked away. From a lot of debt. Scot free then got promoted. | |
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| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 17:12 - Jan 13 with 2444 views | bluefunk |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 16:41 - Jan 13 by ArnieM |
I really hope you’re right on this…. Leicester especially pees me off as they keep walking away. From this type of th8ng …. Thinking about prior to our administration, I’m sure they walked away. From a lot of debt. Scot free then got promoted. |
I think the PL will want to make an example of Leicester, who should already have a points deduction in relation to previous seasons, but for a legal loophole exploited earlier this season. I may be wrong but I can’t see them getting away with it again, if rumours are to be believed and they are £12m over the permitted losses. | | | |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 17:14 - Jan 13 with 2402 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 17:12 - Jan 13 by bluefunk |
I think the PL will want to make an example of Leicester, who should already have a points deduction in relation to previous seasons, but for a legal loophole exploited earlier this season. I may be wrong but I can’t see them getting away with it again, if rumours are to be believed and they are £12m over the permitted losses. |
Should be 2 point deduction for every million over the permitted loses. No appeals no reductions. |  |
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| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 17:20 - Jan 13 with 2347 views | Zx1988 |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 17:14 - Jan 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Should be 2 point deduction for every million over the permitted loses. No appeals no reductions. |
That's what baffles me about how these various appeals can be successful.
If you want to play in the EPL, you have to sign up to the rules and punishments. Make them as clear and explicit as you suggest, and nobody would have a leg to stand on. | |
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| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 18:22 - Jan 13 with 1967 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 17:12 - Jan 13 by bluefunk |
I think the PL will want to make an example of Leicester, who should already have a points deduction in relation to previous seasons, but for a legal loophole exploited earlier this season. I may be wrong but I can’t see them getting away with it again, if rumours are to be believed and they are £12m over the permitted losses. |
Listening to the price of football podcast, Kieran Maguire suggested the mole he has in Leicester are super relaxed about the outcome - he suspects that they have some wheeze, which might have been selling some assets to themselves at an artificial huge profit, or treating their year in the championship using the premier league rules - allowing them to lose 35m for that year as well as for their PL years rather than 13m under the championship rules - which will mean they will scape through again...
I REALLY hope he is wrong | | | |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 18:26 - Jan 13 with 1937 views | MK1 |
Forest -15. (the establishment don't want them in the top 4)
Leicester and Everton -10 (suspended for 20 years)
Chelsea, Man Utd & Newcastle +10 (just because) |  |
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| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 18:58 - Jan 13 with 1685 views | Kievthegreat |
| Clubs in breach of PSR rules, judgement due in next 24 hours or so. on 17:20 - Jan 13 by Zx1988 |
That's what baffles me about how these various appeals can be successful.
If you want to play in the EPL, you have to sign up to the rules and punishments. Make them as clear and explicit as you suggest, and nobody would have a leg to stand on. |
Thing is, if it was a straightforward number it would be easier. However it's however many millions in losses, minus certain expenses like Women's teams and youth teams, but then taking account of was that sponsorship by your owner's cousins company at market value. Then you can keep diving down into what date did that transfer go through, when were these bonuses paid.
Finally you end up with situations like Leicester where the rules are badly written and some clever lawyers can worm their way out of things because something as basic as "are you a premier league club" can turn into an 'it depends' answer.
We know accountants/lawyers are good at maximising everything for tax. Oddly enough they can do the same for FFP. Take things like all the dodgy summer transfers where clubs were buying youngsters with no first team experience off each other for £10-20m so they could record some profit and delay some losses. |  | | |
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