| Leicester - PSR 10:17 - Jan 14 with 4962 views | GavTWTD |
No charges brought according to LCFC |  |
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| Leicester - PSR on 10:18 - Jan 14 with 4048 views | portmanking |
No charges brought to any club, for that matter. |  | | |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:21 - Jan 14 with 3952 views | GavTWTD |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:18 - Jan 14 by portmanking |
No charges brought to any club, for that matter. |
So what's the point? | |
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| Leicester - PSR on 10:23 - Jan 14 with 3890 views | swede |
No surprise there then!
The whole thing is a farce. EPL running scared of litigation. | | | |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:24 - Jan 14 with 3842 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:21 - Jan 14 by GavTWTD |
So what's the point? |
I'm not sure how Forest have managed to escape again given their net spend since 2022 is £300million. |  | | |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:26 - Jan 14 with 3798 views | Trequartista |
Seems they can't do anything whilst a legal arbitration case is ongoing. They haven't even said if they are in breach or not. No idea what this case is, I thought Leicester had already won.
It's just a completely untenable situation. Millions of pounds are at stake dependent on points being docked and all we get is a complete non-decision. |  |
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| Leicester - PSR on 10:26 - Jan 14 with 3757 views | Leaky |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:18 - Jan 14 by portmanking |
No charges brought to any club, for that matter. |
I think its no charges brought while legal dispute is on going. So licking the can down the road. |  | | |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:27 - Jan 14 with 3728 views | SheffordBlue |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:21 - Jan 14 by GavTWTD |
So what's the point? |
After the last few seasons of clubs getting points deductions it might be that clubs are being more careful of abiding by the rules as they currently stand. Whether those rules are fit for purpose is a slightly different argument. | |
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| Leicester - PSR on 10:27 - Jan 14 with 3712 views | portmanking |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:21 - Jan 14 by GavTWTD |
So what's the point? |
Well, the point is that every club has complied with PSR for 2023/24, it seems. | | | |
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| Leicester - PSR on 10:30 - Jan 14 with 3604 views | Trequartista |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:27 - Jan 14 by portmanking |
Well, the point is that every club has complied with PSR for 2023/24, it seems. |
If they have then Kieran Maguire, the guru that everyone listens to about this, has egg on his face, but my suspicion that they've cited an ongoing legal case as the reason no charges are brought against LCFC means they were over. | |
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| Leicester - PSR on 10:31 - Jan 14 with 3524 views | WeWereZombies |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:26 - Jan 14 by Leaky |
I think its no charges brought while legal dispute is on going. So licking the can down the road. |
Which is much slower than kicking the can down the road... |  |
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| Leicester - PSR on 10:34 - Jan 14 with 3423 views | Europablue |
From our perspective it doesn't matter. If we don't finish above Leicester and one other club, then we will be relegated. If we need a points deduction to finish above Leicester, that will mean that we are not going to catch another club.
From the perspective of general governance it is a shame that at least Leicester weren't punished because they got away with it before. | | | |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:36 - Jan 14 with 3381 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Don't think there is anything controversial here, just think clubs have been smarter given they actually saw the deductions given last season. Leicester were always likely to be fine given the sales they made + the outrageous compensation they got for Maresca and his staff, plus they didn't really spend massive amounts in the summer. |  |
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| Leicester - PSR on 10:37 - Jan 14 with 3320 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:26 - Jan 14 by Trequartista |
Seems they can't do anything whilst a legal arbitration case is ongoing. They haven't even said if they are in breach or not. No idea what this case is, I thought Leicester had already won.
It's just a completely untenable situation. Millions of pounds are at stake dependent on points being docked and all we get is a complete non-decision. |
The full verdict is Leicester are still at risk of breach, but Leicester are currently in a legal challenge with the PL so they can't bring charges yet. | | | |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:41 - Jan 14 with 3201 views | Trequartista |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:37 - Jan 14 by ElderGrizzly |
The full verdict is Leicester are still at risk of breach, but Leicester are currently in a legal challenge with the PL so they can't bring charges yet. |
According to SKY "Arbitration is ongoing to determine whether the league had jurisdiction over Leicester City relating to the 2022/23 season."
My understanding was Leicester had already won that case, so it appears the EPL decision to drag that one on further has prevented them, for the time being, bringing further charges for 2023/24.
I don't think Leicester are out of the woods yet. | |
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| Leicester - PSR on 10:43 - Jan 14 with 3152 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:41 - Jan 14 by Trequartista |
According to SKY "Arbitration is ongoing to determine whether the league had jurisdiction over Leicester City relating to the 2022/23 season."
My understanding was Leicester had already won that case, so it appears the EPL decision to drag that one on further has prevented them, for the time being, bringing further charges for 2023/24.
I don't think Leicester are out of the woods yet. |
Agree. I assume Leicester will drag this on into the post-season if they can as it will be much harder for PL to deduct points after the season has finished.
That case Leicester won, was they argued they were a PL club so EFL couldn't penalise them wasn't it? So surely, that doesn't help them here unless lawyers now argue they were an EFL club so PL can't touch them? :) | | | |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:47 - Jan 14 with 3058 views | Trequartista |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:43 - Jan 14 by ElderGrizzly |
Agree. I assume Leicester will drag this on into the post-season if they can as it will be much harder for PL to deduct points after the season has finished.
That case Leicester won, was they argued they were a PL club so EFL couldn't penalise them wasn't it? So surely, that doesn't help them here unless lawyers now argue they were an EFL club so PL can't touch them? :) |
If i remember it was because the transfer of shares (Leicester losing their EPL status) at an AGM in 2023 was before the date the accounts were submitted, they argued successfully that they were not an EPL club.
So I guess the EPL could now be arguing Leicester were an EPL club when the accounts were submitted in 2024 if the AGM was again before that date. [Post edited 14 Jan 10:47]
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| Leicester - PSR on 10:50 - Jan 14 with 2977 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:30 - Jan 14 by Trequartista |
If they have then Kieran Maguire, the guru that everyone listens to about this, has egg on his face, but my suspicion that they've cited an ongoing legal case as the reason no charges are brought against LCFC means they were over. |
Entirely if lcfc lawyers have evaded the rules- then others will !
Prem league lawyers fees will go through the roof.
Man City s 115 points will end up reduced to a slap!
Rules ??? What Rules!
Newcastle should spend all the Saudi money now !
Can see Everton spending big before end of Jan! |  | | |
| Leicester - PSR on 11:03 - Jan 14 with 2699 views | HighgateBlue |
| Leicester - PSR on 10:37 - Jan 14 by ElderGrizzly |
The full verdict is Leicester are still at risk of breach, but Leicester are currently in a legal challenge with the PL so they can't bring charges yet. |
The BBC is reporting that all clubs were deemed compliant for the 2023-24 season. Assuming the BBC is correct, the reason for there being no charges against Leicester is that the Premier League considers there is no charge they can bring, because no rules have been breached, rather than anything to do with their arbitration proceedings relating to a different season.
i can't see any reason why being involved in arbitration proceedings relating to a previous accounting period would make any difference whatsoever to the Premier League's power to commence proceedings validly in respect of a subsequent season. |  | | |
| Leicester - PSR on 11:08 - Jan 14 with 2616 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Leicester - PSR on 11:03 - Jan 14 by HighgateBlue |
The BBC is reporting that all clubs were deemed compliant for the 2023-24 season. Assuming the BBC is correct, the reason for there being no charges against Leicester is that the Premier League considers there is no charge they can bring, because no rules have been breached, rather than anything to do with their arbitration proceedings relating to a different season.
i can't see any reason why being involved in arbitration proceedings relating to a previous accounting period would make any difference whatsoever to the Premier League's power to commence proceedings validly in respect of a subsequent season. |
The only thing PSR really does is create a lot of misinformation, assumptions and general hoo-ha on football forums. |  |
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| Leicester - PSR on 11:13 - Jan 14 with 2505 views | Samuelowen88 |
Chelsea apparently sold their women's team to their own company, and some hotels to a company owned by their owners.
So, nothing fishy there at all |  |
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| Leicester - PSR on 11:16 - Jan 14 with 2446 views | DBaldy |
I think the key info is that this decision only relates to the 2023-24 season, which of course is when Leicester were in the Championship, and so this specific decision wasn't likely to impact them.
Leicester's transgressions (and Man City for that matter) all pre-date last season and so any punishment for those will come at another time. | | | |
| Leicester - PSR on 11:18 - Jan 14 with 2427 views | Trequartista |
| Leicester - PSR on 11:03 - Jan 14 by HighgateBlue |
The BBC is reporting that all clubs were deemed compliant for the 2023-24 season. Assuming the BBC is correct, the reason for there being no charges against Leicester is that the Premier League considers there is no charge they can bring, because no rules have been breached, rather than anything to do with their arbitration proceedings relating to a different season.
i can't see any reason why being involved in arbitration proceedings relating to a previous accounting period would make any difference whatsoever to the Premier League's power to commence proceedings validly in respect of a subsequent season. |
I'm reading elsewhere now that Leicester are indeed compliant this season as they've found another loophole.
"loophole which entitles Leicester to claim the full £35m allowance in their first season back in the Premier League. "
It goes on to say
"Ipswich are also unlikely to be thrilled at discovering that they could have spent more on transfer fees following promotion last summer, as they were working to a PSR threshold of £39m for the last three years based on two seasons in League One and one in the Championship." | |
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| Leicester - PSR on 11:22 - Jan 14 with 2340 views | ArmaghBlue |
| Leicester - PSR on 11:18 - Jan 14 by Trequartista |
I'm reading elsewhere now that Leicester are indeed compliant this season as they've found another loophole.
"loophole which entitles Leicester to claim the full £35m allowance in their first season back in the Premier League. "
It goes on to say
"Ipswich are also unlikely to be thrilled at discovering that they could have spent more on transfer fees following promotion last summer, as they were working to a PSR threshold of £39m for the last three years based on two seasons in League One and one in the Championship." |
Doesn’t matter, as we now know it goes without any noticeable punishment |  | | |
| Leicester - PSR on 11:23 - Jan 14 with 2321 views | HighgateBlue |
| Leicester - PSR on 11:18 - Jan 14 by Trequartista |
I'm reading elsewhere now that Leicester are indeed compliant this season as they've found another loophole.
"loophole which entitles Leicester to claim the full £35m allowance in their first season back in the Premier League. "
It goes on to say
"Ipswich are also unlikely to be thrilled at discovering that they could have spent more on transfer fees following promotion last summer, as they were working to a PSR threshold of £39m for the last three years based on two seasons in League One and one in the Championship." |
The success of that "loophole" may well be contingent on Leicester's previous win being confirmed on appeal, I suppose, as it may rest on the logic that the EPL and EFL regimes are entirely separate and distinct, and periods in one league are simply irrelevant for the rules of the other. So unless and until the Premier League succeed in an appeal, Leicester are deemed compliant.
The rules need to be drafted more clearly. Promotion and relegation have always been the factors that render the rules most obviously unclear, and that could all have been accounted for if the Premier League had drafted their rules more clearly, or even actually tried to work together with the EFL to ensure that their respective rules dovetail effectively. | | | |
| Leicester - PSR on 11:25 - Jan 14 with 2306 views | Trequartista |
| Leicester - PSR on 11:18 - Jan 14 by Trequartista |
I'm reading elsewhere now that Leicester are indeed compliant this season as they've found another loophole.
"loophole which entitles Leicester to claim the full £35m allowance in their first season back in the Premier League. "
It goes on to say
"Ipswich are also unlikely to be thrilled at discovering that they could have spent more on transfer fees following promotion last summer, as they were working to a PSR threshold of £39m for the last three years based on two seasons in League One and one in the Championship." |
Full explanation of loophole they may have exploited here (in FF reader view)
It's all about T-1 and T-2 !
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6049650/2025/01/11/leicester-psr-loophole-wrexh | |
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