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Muric vs Walton 23:40 - Jan 16 with 5700 viewskizaitfc

If that was Muric in goal tonight he would have been slated.

I think we have a huge issue in goal, the biggest failure was not spending a good £15-£20m on a solid keeper.

We lost one of our players of the season in Hladky and replaced him with a keeper that was completely unproven and was a massive risk.

For all the good things Ashton and McKenna have done this ahs to go down as a mistake in the summer. But my concern is they don't want to accept the error and look to sign another keeper, I honestly think a decent keeper could be the difference in survival in the prem and relegation

Poll: Mick in or out? (not a dig at Mick just want to see the overall opinion on here)

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Muric vs Walton on 16:26 - Jan 17 with 406 viewsibbleobble

Muric vs Walton on 14:46 - Jan 17 by itfcjoe

Muric is the league leader for crosses claimed, he's not a passive keeper


Can we stop with these really silly stats? Commanding your box isn’t just claiming crosses is it? Commanding your box also includes organising your defence, being vocal etc…something there are not stats for.

I’ve seen him rooted to his line not knowing whether to come or go too many times already this season.
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Muric vs Walton on 16:28 - Jan 17 with 399 viewsHorsham

Muric vs Walton on 16:26 - Jan 17 by ibbleobble

Can we stop with these really silly stats? Commanding your box isn’t just claiming crosses is it? Commanding your box also includes organising your defence, being vocal etc…something there are not stats for.

I’ve seen him rooted to his line not knowing whether to come or go too many times already this season.
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Stop with the silly facts.
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Muric vs Walton on 16:28 - Jan 17 with 396 viewsibbleobble

Muric vs Walton on 15:10 - Jan 17 by _clive_baker_

Couldn't disagree more with that. The amount of pressure he alleviates with his command of those aerial balls is significant, and a huge upgrade on Walton or Hladky before him. I think there are very few better at that than Muric to be fair, and certainly few that we could attract. Where he's let himself down for me is his communication doesn't seem to be on a level with Walton, he doesn't organise his defence as well, and he's been poor with the ball at his feet. I'm not convinced Walton is any better in that regard though.

Its not reason enough to start him but ultimately we've spent a lot on Muric, he's got PL experience, an International keeper who spent 7 years coming through at Man City. He's been far from perfect but on balance personally I would put him in for the rest of the season but ask a little less of him with his feet.


I agree he’s better at crosses, it’s probs his better attribute over Walton, not that Walton is bad at crosses. It’s just not the only thing to measure command of the box though as I’ve just mentioned to Joe.
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Muric vs Walton on 16:28 - Jan 17 with 395 viewsKieran_Knows

Muric vs Walton on 16:26 - Jan 17 by ibbleobble

Can we stop with these really silly stats? Commanding your box isn’t just claiming crosses is it? Commanding your box also includes organising your defence, being vocal etc…something there are not stats for.

I’ve seen him rooted to his line not knowing whether to come or go too many times already this season.
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Poll: We’ve got super KM, he knows exactly what we need. Woolfie at the back…

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Muric vs Walton on 16:32 - Jan 17 with 370 viewsVaughan8

Muric vs Walton on 15:11 - Jan 17 by Dubtractor

I can't agree with that - I'm not sure I saw Walton claim a single cross last night.

Muric was making too many errors, no argument about that, but Walton is clearly less good at commanding his box.


Maybe my mind have warped this, but I'm sure Walton did fine with crosses against Fulham and Chelsea though?

Last night he wasn't great, but Muric has had more than 1 bad game so I'd leave Walton in for now.
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Muric vs Walton on 16:34 - Jan 17 with 360 viewsHorsham

Muric vs Walton on 16:05 - Jan 17 by ITFCSG

More importantly - who do our players, and especially defenders, have more confidence in so far? Muric or Walton?

I guess the answer is clear for all to see


Is it really? If so our defenders need to grow a pair because whoever plays behind them will have some scary moments.
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Muric vs Walton on 16:36 - Jan 17 with 349 viewsFrimleyBlue

Its incredible how quick people want to go after the keepers tho. There's many in front of them.

There's been zero threads about the shocking attempt of getting the ball from morsy for the 2nd goal. Gave a stupid pen last week. In most games he makes silly errors. Sometimes passes us into trouble. Yet first name on the teamsheet to some.

Such a cop out by many.

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Muric vs Walton on 16:39 - Jan 17 with 337 viewspointofblue

I haven't read the entire thread but to go back to the OP - one issue is Muric cost £8m. Expectation is mistakes will be few and far between after spending that amount of money, compared to someone signed from Brighton's reserve team for a nominal fee.

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Muric vs Walton on 16:40 - Jan 17 with 317 viewsibbleobble

Muric vs Walton on 16:28 - Jan 17 by Horsham

Stop with the silly facts.


Stats aren’t facts as they’re open to interpretation. In isolation they only tell part of a story. GCE’s innit bruv?
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Muric vs Walton on 17:01 - Jan 17 with 282 viewsHorsham

Muric vs Walton on 16:40 - Jan 17 by ibbleobble

Stats aren’t facts as they’re open to interpretation. In isolation they only tell part of a story. GCE’s innit bruv?


Stats not facts? Ok stats from dubious sources, conspiracy theorists and fantasists probably aren’t facts.

I mean the moon is actually 97% cheese isn’t it.
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Muric vs Walton on 17:03 - Jan 17 with 280 viewsHorsham

Muric vs Walton on 16:39 - Jan 17 by pointofblue

I haven't read the entire thread but to go back to the OP - one issue is Muric cost £8m. Expectation is mistakes will be few and far between after spending that amount of money, compared to someone signed from Brighton's reserve team for a nominal fee.


But to go back to the original post there’s plenty of £15-20m keepers dropping ricks so I think the more basic point is that keepers make mistakes that lead to goals because they do a bloody hard job.
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