| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna 21:44 - Feb 1 with 9285 views | NedPlimpton |
Although I suppose we've seen it every January for the last 3 years now.
I thought given were we've come from, that people might have more realistic expectations and that McKenna might have some credit in the bank but apparently not |  | | |  |
| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 12:39 - Feb 2 with 781 views | pointofblue |
| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 11:58 - Feb 2 by tractordownsouth |
You were deluding yourself if you thought we'd be getting "quality PL experience." We're back at the top level for the first time in two decades, having come up with two teams who had had 10 years up here before us and competing against another 17 established sides. Nobody was going to jump ship from another PL side to sign for us.
The PL experience we did get in the summer inevitably came with risk. Phillips has been off form for three years now, Johnson was only a bit-part player at West Ham and Cajuste (including him as Napoli are of a similar level to a PL team) has been great but wouldn't be here if he hadn't failed his Brentford medical. Getting a 1 out of 3 hit rate was to be expected. |
Then we may as well have given those who got us up a chance at proving themselves in terms of the first XI. I certainly don't deny we needed to strengthen the depth of the squad, and some players (notably H Clarke and Luongo) have shown to be found wanting at this level, but others have performed decently when called upon but not given a long run in the team. To what benefit? |  |
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| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 12:49 - Feb 2 with 735 views | tractorshark |
I would say 80% of the genuinely over-the-top comments are probably coming from the 10,000 or so fans who have rediscovered they support Ipswich in the last three years.
They're used to winning, so now it’s going wrong, the toys get thrown out the pram. They’ll slowly drift away if we return to the Chsmpionship.
That said, there are questions to be raised.
Perspective is of course important. We’re not relegated yet and there are plenty of points to play for.
But in order to have perspective, there needs to be realism and, right now, the reality is we don’t score enough goals or make the right decisions in the final third, we make too many errors at the back and our goalkeeper is the worst in the division by a mile. We are heading for a sub 30 points total which means relegation.
But unfortunately yesterday’s results showed the gulf between the promoted teams and the Prem. McKenna and the board have done fantastically well and deserve to be applauded, regardless of whether people think that’s happy clapping.
They have given the Prem a right go, yes some signings haven’t worked out, but I despair when people say our squad was better as it was. No, it was miles off competing in the Prem and, when you look at the money we’ve spent and the impact we’ve made, you realise how difficult this league has become.
But we are not dead and buried yet, we will pick up an unexpected win or two. And even if this season ends in relegation, the club has the squad, infrastructure and finances to have a bright future for many years to come. [Post edited 2 Feb 12:50]
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| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 12:52 - Feb 2 with 709 views | jasondozzell |
| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 12:49 - Feb 2 by tractorshark |
I would say 80% of the genuinely over-the-top comments are probably coming from the 10,000 or so fans who have rediscovered they support Ipswich in the last three years.
They're used to winning, so now it’s going wrong, the toys get thrown out the pram. They’ll slowly drift away if we return to the Chsmpionship.
That said, there are questions to be raised.
Perspective is of course important. We’re not relegated yet and there are plenty of points to play for.
But in order to have perspective, there needs to be realism and, right now, the reality is we don’t score enough goals or make the right decisions in the final third, we make too many errors at the back and our goalkeeper is the worst in the division by a mile. We are heading for a sub 30 points total which means relegation.
But unfortunately yesterday’s results showed the gulf between the promoted teams and the Prem. McKenna and the board have done fantastically well and deserve to be applauded, regardless of whether people think that’s happy clapping.
They have given the Prem a right go, yes some signings haven’t worked out, but I despair when people say our squad was better as it was. No, it was miles off competing in the Prem and, when you look at the money we’ve spent and the impact we’ve made, you realise how difficult this league has become.
But we are not dead and buried yet, we will pick up an unexpected win or two. And even if this season ends in relegation, the club has the squad, infrastructure and finances to have a bright future for many years to come. [Post edited 2 Feb 12:50]
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Fantastic post. Excellent analysis of the situation. |  | | |
| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 12:57 - Feb 2 with 674 views | Bobbychase |
If he's still our manager, by his own choice, if we go down then we are the luckiest set of supporters in the land. |  |
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| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 13:46 - Feb 2 with 611 views | tractordownsouth |
| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 12:39 - Feb 2 by pointofblue |
Then we may as well have given those who got us up a chance at proving themselves in terms of the first XI. I certainly don't deny we needed to strengthen the depth of the squad, and some players (notably H Clarke and Luongo) have shown to be found wanting at this level, but others have performed decently when called upon but not given a long run in the team. To what benefit? |
Which of our starting XI from last season haven't been given opportunities in the first XI? |  |
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| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 14:31 - Feb 2 with 559 views | blueislander |
| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 21:52 - Feb 1 by textbackup |
We’ve got a manger who’s the 5/6th best paid in the PL, spent £120m… and sit 19th.
Is that to be celebrated?
On top of that, we’ve looked pretty sht. And often with no idea. |
I remember you being very vocal when we went through the sticky patch around this time last year in criticising the manager and the players, and had to change your tune when we got promoted. Hopefully something similar will happen this season. | | | |
| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 14:53 - Feb 2 with 510 views | pointofblue |
| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 13:46 - Feb 2 by tractordownsouth |
Which of our starting XI from last season haven't been given opportunities in the first XI? |
Playing well and then dropped despite not being injured/suspended? Woolfenden, Burgess, Chaplin, Broadhead. Admittedly, I wouldn't play Woolfenden and Burgess together and the forward players are rotated. | |
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| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 15:49 - Feb 2 with 446 views | blueislander |
| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 14:53 - Feb 2 by pointofblue |
Playing well and then dropped despite not being injured/suspended? Woolfenden, Burgess, Chaplin, Broadhead. Admittedly, I wouldn't play Woolfenden and Burgess together and the forward players are rotated. |
We looked the most solid defensively with O’shea, Woolfenden and Greaves. | | | |
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| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 16:13 - Feb 2 with 431 views | pointofblue |
| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 15:49 - Feb 2 by blueislander |
We looked the most solid defensively with O’shea, Woolfenden and Greaves. |
I'd argue our best run of games - Arsenal (defensively, considering we had just lost 4-0 to Newcastle), Chelsea, Fulham and Brighton, up to the hour mark. After the first half against Brighton I remember believing that we had a very good chance of staying up. To say we've wobbled since is an understatement. | |
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| Honestly mental how quickly people are turning on the team and McKenna on 16:25 - Feb 2 with 421 views | TheBoyBlue |
I think if we sack after he's struggled for the first time that's very poor on our part. If we go down I'd want McKenna to take us back up. I don't think that he will because he'll get offers and he's earnt the right to take those, but I certainly don't think we should be looking to get rid of him. Not in a million years. | |
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