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United want Delap 08:16 - Feb 8 with 4672 viewsBseaBlue

According to BBC gossip page.

I suppose the more interest the better for us ahead of the summer.
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United want Delap on 08:18 - Feb 8 with 3695 viewsNeedhamChris

Well, the better for Man City...

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United want Delap on 08:19 - Feb 8 with 3694 viewsBseaBlue

United want Delap on 08:18 - Feb 8 by NeedhamChris

Well, the better for Man City...


Got to hope its a matching clause haven't we.
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United want Delap on 08:24 - Feb 8 with 3650 viewsNeedhamChris

United want Delap on 08:19 - Feb 8 by BseaBlue

Got to hope its a matching clause haven't we.


It's so widely reported that it's a buyback I'm past that point, it's really about the amount.

I reckon 30-35m.

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United want Delap on 08:25 - Feb 8 with 3635 viewsAxeldalai_lama

United want Delap on 08:19 - Feb 8 by BseaBlue

Got to hope its a matching clause haven't we.


Even if not we can accept other higher bids form other clubs. Clubs would rather pay a chunk more with us than have city buy him and have to mess about with them. And I think Delap will be able to get a good deal whoever he goes to and won't be that keen messing about with city and then sold on again.
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United want Delap on 08:28 - Feb 8 with 3606 viewsAxeldalai_lama

United want Delap on 08:24 - Feb 8 by NeedhamChris

It's so widely reported that it's a buyback I'm past that point, it's really about the amount.

I reckon 30-35m.


But 'buybacks' can't force a player to go back can they? I assume? They can only force us to accept the agreed offer. If he has other offers on the table that we accept he has to turn them down? Seems a bit dodgy legally.
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United want Delap on 08:32 - Feb 8 with 3555 viewsBlue_Heath

United want Delap on 08:25 - Feb 8 by Axeldalai_lama

Even if not we can accept other higher bids form other clubs. Clubs would rather pay a chunk more with us than have city buy him and have to mess about with them. And I think Delap will be able to get a good deal whoever he goes to and won't be that keen messing about with city and then sold on again.


However, Delap's agent will be relishing two transfer fees, let's hope he's got a different rep to Philogene.
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United want Delap on 08:34 - Feb 8 with 3521 viewsNeedhamChris

United want Delap on 08:28 - Feb 8 by Axeldalai_lama

But 'buybacks' can't force a player to go back can they? I assume? They can only force us to accept the agreed offer. If he has other offers on the table that we accept he has to turn them down? Seems a bit dodgy legally.


All comes down to the contract.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/what-are-buy-back-clauses-transfers

This (and other sources) would suggest it'll be in Delaps contract too, so he'll have gone into it eyes open.

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United want Delap on 09:27 - Feb 8 with 3243 viewsmelbs_itfc

United want Delap on 08:34 - Feb 8 by NeedhamChris

All comes down to the contract.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/what-are-buy-back-clauses-transfers

This (and other sources) would suggest it'll be in Delaps contract too, so he'll have gone into it eyes open.


Appreciate the shared link, certainly an interesting read.
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United want Delap on 10:06 - Feb 8 with 3112 viewsClutch

Ashton isn't stupid, any fee will be high regardless. He will know if City ever wanted him back it would mean he has exceeded expectations and scored a fair bit in the top league in the world - so it would have been based on that, not on what we paid.
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United want Delap on 10:15 - Feb 8 with 3034 viewsLord_Lucan

United want Delap on 08:24 - Feb 8 by NeedhamChris

It's so widely reported that it's a buyback I'm past that point, it's really about the amount.

I reckon 30-35m.


Link me to a genuine report of the agreed buyback..........

........and not some drivel from awful MEN

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United want Delap on 10:25 - Feb 8 with 2929 viewsNeedhamChris

United want Delap on 10:15 - Feb 8 by Lord_Lucan

Link me to a genuine report of the agreed buyback..........

........and not some drivel from awful MEN


The MEN stuff isn't drivel is it - it's their chief football writer (like someone there saying Stuart Watson is drivel). It's not new either, they've been consistent since before we signed him.

https://www.teamtalk.com/manchester-city/citizens-lurking-quickly-re-sign-academ

Why is there such resistance on here to a club renowned for using buyback clauses having insisted on a buyback clause?

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United want Delap on 10:28 - Feb 8 with 2886 viewsSaffronWaldenBlues

United want Delap on 08:28 - Feb 8 by Axeldalai_lama

But 'buybacks' can't force a player to go back can they? I assume? They can only force us to accept the agreed offer. If he has other offers on the table that we accept he has to turn them down? Seems a bit dodgy legally.


Plus potentially Delap will lose a bigger signing on fee if he’s forced to join Manchester City for a fixed lower bid.

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United want Delap on 10:31 - Feb 8 with 2854 viewsNeedhamChris

United want Delap on 10:15 - Feb 8 by Lord_Lucan

Link me to a genuine report of the agreed buyback..........

........and not some drivel from awful MEN


Does this site count as drivel?

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United want Delap on 10:32 - Feb 8 with 2850 viewsLord_Lucan

United want Delap on 10:25 - Feb 8 by NeedhamChris

The MEN stuff isn't drivel is it - it's their chief football writer (like someone there saying Stuart Watson is drivel). It's not new either, they've been consistent since before we signed him.

https://www.teamtalk.com/manchester-city/citizens-lurking-quickly-re-sign-academ

Why is there such resistance on here to a club renowned for using buyback clauses having insisted on a buyback clause?


I'm not 100% sure on the accuracy of the sports reporting to be honest but I know with absolute definite info that their general news reporting is a load of old cr4p.

Where does that link mention the details of the buyback clause?

I'm not saying their isn't a buy back clause, I just haven't seen a genuine report of what the clause is.

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United want Delap on 10:33 - Feb 8 with 2814 viewsSheffordBlue

United want Delap on 10:25 - Feb 8 by NeedhamChris

The MEN stuff isn't drivel is it - it's their chief football writer (like someone there saying Stuart Watson is drivel). It's not new either, they've been consistent since before we signed him.

https://www.teamtalk.com/manchester-city/citizens-lurking-quickly-re-sign-academ

Why is there such resistance on here to a club renowned for using buyback clauses having insisted on a buyback clause?


Unless City genuinely want him to play they might do better just profiting from the 20% sell-on clause. Buying him, not really playing him for 6/12 months before trying to sell him on doesn't necessarily benefit them or him.

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United want Delap on 10:34 - Feb 8 with 2812 viewsPrideOfTheEast

United want Delap on 10:25 - Feb 8 by NeedhamChris

The MEN stuff isn't drivel is it - it's their chief football writer (like someone there saying Stuart Watson is drivel). It's not new either, they've been consistent since before we signed him.

https://www.teamtalk.com/manchester-city/citizens-lurking-quickly-re-sign-academ

Why is there such resistance on here to a club renowned for using buyback clauses having insisted on a buyback clause?


Would be a surprise if there isn’t one but would be even more of a surprise if it’s at the level reported in a couple of places as being circa £30m. The fully loaded cost (ie including wages) of Delap over his contract with us is probably around that, assuming we pay £20m in fee with top ups.

I reckon the buy back is significantly higher - say £40m and will only exist in exist in certain windows. If one of those windows isn’t the summer then we’ll sell him elsewhere.
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United want Delap on 10:34 - Feb 8 with 2799 viewsNeedhamChris

United want Delap on 10:32 - Feb 8 by Lord_Lucan

I'm not 100% sure on the accuracy of the sports reporting to be honest but I know with absolute definite info that their general news reporting is a load of old cr4p.

Where does that link mention the details of the buyback clause?

I'm not saying their isn't a buy back clause, I just haven't seen a genuine report of what the clause is.


Then why are we arguing? I said I'm past the point of accepting their is a buyback clause, and the important bit is the money.

I don't know either. I'm guessing 35m because that has mutual benefit for us and city, but I think we're in the same place?

The amount is just speculation until confirmed.

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United want Delap on 10:34 - Feb 8 with 2799 viewsLord_Lucan

United want Delap on 10:31 - Feb 8 by NeedhamChris

Does this site count as drivel?

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Ditto

What's the nuts and bolts of the clause.

Edit; It doesn't matter if there is a clause or not, it's just the amount - and I would suggest that only the two team know this information.
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United want Delap on 10:42 - Feb 8 with 2716 viewsNeedhamChris

United want Delap on 10:34 - Feb 8 by Lord_Lucan

Ditto

What's the nuts and bolts of the clause.

Edit; It doesn't matter if there is a clause or not, it's just the amount - and I would suggest that only the two team know this information.
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You're arguing with no-one, this whole thread accepts we don't know the amount - I've literally just had a guess.

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United want Delap on 10:44 - Feb 8 with 2698 viewsNeedhamChris

United want Delap on 08:24 - Feb 8 by NeedhamChris

It's so widely reported that it's a buyback I'm past that point, it's really about the amount.

I reckon 30-35m.


Nice to see Mr nonconfrontational himself going around giving out downvotes for people having an opinion.

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United want Delap on 10:51 - Feb 8 with 2617 viewsSwansea_Blue

Financially, that could be the best outcome for us. They seem hopeless in their recruitment and I can easily see them offering £70M for him. I’m not saying he’s worth that, more that Utd are a basket case.

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United want Delap on 10:59 - Feb 8 with 2534 viewsGuthrum

United want Delap on 08:34 - Feb 8 by NeedhamChris

All comes down to the contract.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/what-are-buy-back-clauses-transfers

This (and other sources) would suggest it'll be in Delaps contract too, so he'll have gone into it eyes open.


How enforceable would that be if the player really didn't want to go? It isn't slavery, after all. Yes, there would likely be financial penalties, but the player or hiring club ought to be able to buy out the relevant clause.

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United want Delap on 11:05 - Feb 8 with 2486 viewsbluefunk

United want Delap on 10:25 - Feb 8 by NeedhamChris

The MEN stuff isn't drivel is it - it's their chief football writer (like someone there saying Stuart Watson is drivel). It's not new either, they've been consistent since before we signed him.

https://www.teamtalk.com/manchester-city/citizens-lurking-quickly-re-sign-academ

Why is there such resistance on here to a club renowned for using buyback clauses having insisted on a buyback clause?


How many of their players have they actually bought back?
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United want Delap on 11:07 - Feb 8 with 2458 viewsLord_Lucan

United want Delap on 11:05 - Feb 8 by bluefunk

How many of their players have they actually bought back?


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United want Delap on 11:14 - Feb 8 with 2401 viewsScuzzer

Newcastle United?
They're the better United at the mo.

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