Attn: iPhone users 15:49 - Feb 21 with 1921 views | blueasfook | Best remove all those saucy photos you have stored in the cloud because thanks to the govt, Apple have had to remove encryption so potentially anyone can see them. Be it Apple, the govt or hackers. It seems the govt don't like you having data privacy. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgj54eq4vejo |  |
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Attn: iPhone users on 15:51 - Feb 21 with 1866 views | J2BLUE | Brilliant |  |
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Attn: iPhone users on 15:55 - Feb 21 with 1815 views | blueasfook |
Attn: iPhone users on 15:51 - Feb 21 by J2BLUE | Brilliant |
I'm surprised Apple crumbled (ha ha) so easily. In the past they've quite fiercely resisted govts trying to put pressure on them. |  |
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Attn: iPhone users on 15:57 - Feb 21 with 1792 views | lowhouseblue |
Attn: iPhone users on 15:55 - Feb 21 by blueasfook | I'm surprised Apple crumbled (ha ha) so easily. In the past they've quite fiercely resisted govts trying to put pressure on them. |
have they crumbled? it feels more like taking their ball home to me. |  |
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Attn: iPhone users on 15:57 - Feb 21 with 1787 views | J2BLUE |
Attn: iPhone users on 15:55 - Feb 21 by blueasfook | I'm surprised Apple crumbled (ha ha) so easily. In the past they've quite fiercely resisted govts trying to put pressure on them. |
Hopefully it's strategic before Starmer goes to the US and Trump demands they restore it. Some of their politicians kicked off about it recently. |  |
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Attn: iPhone users on 16:03 - Feb 21 with 1727 views | Sarge |
Attn: iPhone users on 15:57 - Feb 21 by lowhouseblue | have they crumbled? it feels more like taking their ball home to me. |
Quite. They haven’t crumbled, the resisted the UK demand to have back door access to user’s data and as a result have pulled their top level security. They hold the power at the moment and personally I think Apple are in the right here, privacy should be maintained. |  | |  |
Attn: iPhone users on 16:03 - Feb 21 with 1724 views | blueasfook |
Attn: iPhone users on 15:57 - Feb 21 by lowhouseblue | have they crumbled? it feels more like taking their ball home to me. |
Well they've removed a level of security that many users won't be happy about. The right to data privacy ought to be a human right IMO. Until we get protection over our personal data written in legislation then governments will continue to pull these kind of moves. |  |
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Attn: iPhone users on 16:03 - Feb 21 with 1721 views | Oldsmoker | Is it worth it? The cloud does get backed up so there will always be those saucy photos attached to your account. I saw this coming years ago. What could possibly go wrong with giving control of your data to someone else. You willingly surrendered it. Did you click 'Accept' rather than read all the T&C's? Are they coming to get you? Of course they are. |  |
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Attn: iPhone users on 16:07 - Feb 21 with 1679 views | bsw72 | Just to clarify, while I disagree with the judgement and they have had to remove ADP in the UK, they have not removed encryption. ADP was effectively end to end encryption and was an heightened layer of security, which you had to go through and actually opt in for, and I would suggest the majority of users have not opted in. All Apple users have standard data protection which is the default setting for your iCloud account. This means your iCloud data is encrypted in transit and stored in an encrypted format at rest - this level of encryption has not changed. As an comparison if you have a google account, it does not have end to end encryption, just standard encryption at rest and encryption in transit . . . same as your Microsoft account, onedrive etc etc |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
Attn: iPhone users on 16:12 - Feb 21 with 1633 views | bsw72 |
Attn: iPhone users on 15:55 - Feb 21 by blueasfook | I'm surprised Apple crumbled (ha ha) so easily. In the past they've quite fiercely resisted govts trying to put pressure on them. |
Suggests to me that opt-in usage was low, therefore not worth going to battle over with a gvmt, so Apple positioning themselves well politically when needed. [Post edited 21 Feb 16:13]
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Attn: iPhone users on 16:17 - Feb 21 with 1604 views | Oldsmoker |
Attn: iPhone users on 16:07 - Feb 21 by bsw72 | Just to clarify, while I disagree with the judgement and they have had to remove ADP in the UK, they have not removed encryption. ADP was effectively end to end encryption and was an heightened layer of security, which you had to go through and actually opt in for, and I would suggest the majority of users have not opted in. All Apple users have standard data protection which is the default setting for your iCloud account. This means your iCloud data is encrypted in transit and stored in an encrypted format at rest - this level of encryption has not changed. As an comparison if you have a google account, it does not have end to end encryption, just standard encryption at rest and encryption in transit . . . same as your Microsoft account, onedrive etc etc |
The latest encryption AES-128 hasn't been cracked and is pretty safe as no standard computer could hack it in a month of Sundays. However, a Quantum computer that a government could own and operate could. |  |
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Attn: iPhone users on 16:19 - Feb 21 with 1573 views | bsw72 |
Attn: iPhone users on 16:17 - Feb 21 by Oldsmoker | The latest encryption AES-128 hasn't been cracked and is pretty safe as no standard computer could hack it in a month of Sundays. However, a Quantum computer that a government could own and operate could. |
Exactly. If they want to use that to crack my thousands of pictures of my dogs, cats, kids, grandchildren etc etc, they're welcome to it. |  | |  |
Attn: iPhone users on 16:22 - Feb 21 with 1551 views | Oldsmoker |
Attn: iPhone users on 16:19 - Feb 21 by bsw72 | Exactly. If they want to use that to crack my thousands of pictures of my dogs, cats, kids, grandchildren etc etc, they're welcome to it. |
That's the one safeguard - the cloud is flooded. There is so much data it's impossible to search all of it. 1% would probably take a lifetime. |  |
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Attn: iPhone users on 18:00 - Feb 21 with 1317 views | Churchman |
Attn: iPhone users on 16:03 - Feb 21 by Sarge | Quite. They haven’t crumbled, the resisted the UK demand to have back door access to user’s data and as a result have pulled their top level security. They hold the power at the moment and personally I think Apple are in the right here, privacy should be maintained. |
Absolutely Apple are right. Thanks Govt. you just left a lot of people more vulnerable than the should be. |  | |  |
Attn: iPhone users on 18:48 - Feb 21 with 1247 views | hoppy | Would that include any pictures or videos of Jay Tabb, for example? Asking for a friend. |  |
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Attn: iPhone users on 22:11 - Feb 21 with 964 views | stonojnr |
Attn: iPhone users on 15:57 - Feb 21 by J2BLUE | Hopefully it's strategic before Starmer goes to the US and Trump demands they restore it. Some of their politicians kicked off about it recently. |
why would Trump want to demand they restore it ? its not a US problem for them. and the NSA already have their own backdoor to US tech companies, so its not like they care about that either |  | |  |
Attn: iPhone users on 23:46 - Feb 21 with 862 views | J2BLUE |
Attn: iPhone users on 22:11 - Feb 21 by stonojnr | why would Trump want to demand they restore it ? its not a US problem for them. and the NSA already have their own backdoor to US tech companies, so its not like they care about that either |
US politicians have been pretty scathing of the backdoor demand. Although this is different it's still an American company and I could see Trump demanding the government back off. It would be an easy concession for Starmer.. |  |
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