| By George! 16:52 - Mar 15 with 3523 views | Ryorry |
Why wasn't he on at least 25 mins earlier though?! |  |
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| By George! on 16:54 - Mar 15 with 2769 views | floridaboy |
Should have started up front instead of Delap or at least replaced him at half time |  | | |
| By George! on 16:55 - Mar 15 with 2734 views | ringwoodblue |
Surely Hirst deserves a start in the next game. Delap has lost his scoring form. |  |
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| By George! on 16:55 - Mar 15 with 2721 views | FrimleyBlue |
Should have been starting games for the past month.
Incredibly stubborn not to be starting hirst imo.
Got to start him. Let delap come on as the finisher. |  |
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| By George! on 16:55 - Mar 15 with 2705 views | Bluecasp |
| By George! on 16:54 - Mar 15 by floridaboy |
Should have started up front instead of Delap or at least replaced him at half time |
Absolutely. Time to start Hirst over Delap. He looks sharp and we seem to play better with him up top. | | | |
| By George! on 16:55 - Mar 15 with 2686 views | sjg |
Because he didnt cost north of £10m | | | |
| By George! on 16:59 - Mar 15 with 2606 views | Ryorry |
| By George! on 16:55 - Mar 15 by sjg |
Because he didnt cost north of £10m |
Said on another thread that that's how it seems to be, and it's baffling unless it's coming from medical team confidential advice. | |
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| By George! on 17:17 - Mar 15 with 2464 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
Why has McKenna lost faith in Hirst? One of the most baffling aspects of this season | | | |
| By George! on 17:22 - Mar 15 with 2411 views | FrimleyBlue |
| By George! on 16:55 - Mar 15 by sjg |
Because he didnt cost north of £10m |
And if we drop him. We might not be able to sell him in the summer which may be important because we've spent all our tv money.
Honesty. Delap reminds me of when we had bonne.
Scored all his goals early to become a hero. Then Did nothing after
Delap won't go down the level like that btw but that's how I describe his season.
Anyone and I include KM in this. Who prefers delap over hirst is living from the first couple months of the season. Not what we've witnessed the last couple. [Post edited 15 Mar 17:24]
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| By George! on 17:30 - Mar 15 with 2354 views | Smoresy |
| By George! on 17:17 - Mar 15 by SWLondonBlue93 |
Why has McKenna lost faith in Hirst? One of the most baffling aspects of this season |
Has he lost faith? I agree with starting Hirst, Delap's lost form, but this is also a week in which Delap was touted for England while Hirst said goodbye to that dream.
The conspiracy stuff around McKenna refusing to look beyond price tags is in the same vein as the stuff around him not caring, really. I suspect McKenna sees the difference in quality in training, sees how Delap bossed defenders in the first half of the season, and wants that quality on the field for as long as possible in his favoured position. I hope Hirst has done enough to start against Bournemouth. | | | |
| By George! on 17:33 - Mar 15 with 2329 views | Ryorry |
| By George! on 17:30 - Mar 15 by Smoresy |
Has he lost faith? I agree with starting Hirst, Delap's lost form, but this is also a week in which Delap was touted for England while Hirst said goodbye to that dream.
The conspiracy stuff around McKenna refusing to look beyond price tags is in the same vein as the stuff around him not caring, really. I suspect McKenna sees the difference in quality in training, sees how Delap bossed defenders in the first half of the season, and wants that quality on the field for as long as possible in his favoured position. I hope Hirst has done enough to start against Bournemouth. |
" I suspect McKenna sees the difference in quality in training, sees how Delap bossed defenders in the first half of the season, and wants that quality on the field for as long as possible in his favoured position."
Yet that's repeatedly met with the same dismal result in actual league matches. | |
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| By George! on 17:36 - Mar 15 with 2296 views | bobbyramsey |
KM loves his favourites don't he?
Stubborn doesn't begin to describe him.... |  | | |
| By George! on 17:36 - Mar 15 with 2292 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
| By George! on 17:30 - Mar 15 by Smoresy |
Has he lost faith? I agree with starting Hirst, Delap's lost form, but this is also a week in which Delap was touted for England while Hirst said goodbye to that dream.
The conspiracy stuff around McKenna refusing to look beyond price tags is in the same vein as the stuff around him not caring, really. I suspect McKenna sees the difference in quality in training, sees how Delap bossed defenders in the first half of the season, and wants that quality on the field for as long as possible in his favoured position. I hope Hirst has done enough to start against Bournemouth. |
I'd argue that by waiting so long to bring him on, the most obvious example being the Man U game, it would suggest that he doesn't think he can make an impact at this level. | | | |
| By George! on 17:44 - Mar 15 with 2220 views | Smoresy |
| By George! on 17:33 - Mar 15 by Ryorry |
" I suspect McKenna sees the difference in quality in training, sees how Delap bossed defenders in the first half of the season, and wants that quality on the field for as long as possible in his favoured position."
Yet that's repeatedly met with the same dismal result in actual league matches. |
It has, no doubt about it. McKenna believes his tactics and personnel choices are our best chance of gaining points, but our best (to his mind) isn't good enough sadly. The alternative is McKenna's deliberately sabotaging our season for X reason. I like to think we don't have an enemy inside the walls and option one is the answer. | | | |
| By George! on 17:44 - Mar 15 with 2206 views | sjg |
| By George! on 17:36 - Mar 15 by SWLondonBlue93 |
I'd argue that by waiting so long to bring him on, the most obvious example being the Man U game, it would suggest that he doesn't think he can make an impact at this level. |
Well he’s wrong then isn’t he? | | | |
| By George! on 17:51 - Mar 15 with 2127 views | Ryorry |
| By George! on 17:44 - Mar 15 by Smoresy |
It has, no doubt about it. McKenna believes his tactics and personnel choices are our best chance of gaining points, but our best (to his mind) isn't good enough sadly. The alternative is McKenna's deliberately sabotaging our season for X reason. I like to think we don't have an enemy inside the walls and option one is the answer. |
"alternative is McKenna's deliberately sabotaging our season for X reason."
Anyone thinking that might be the case probably needs psychiatric assessmemt! | |
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| By George! on 18:00 - Mar 15 with 2052 views | jasondozzell |
Yeah. I agree.
I love Delap but Hirst is actually the more complete striker. |  | | |
| By George! on 23:58 - Mar 15 with 1818 views | Ryorry |
| By George! on 18:00 - Mar 15 by jasondozzell |
Yeah. I agree.
I love Delap but Hirst is actually the more complete striker. |
Agree. Hirst has guile, something you really need in this league, and which we very sadly haven’t used.
Baffling is probably my most frequently used word when discussing KM’s choices this season. | |
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| By George! on 07:19 - Mar 16 with 1594 views | Libero |
| By George! on 17:17 - Mar 15 by SWLondonBlue93 |
Why has McKenna lost faith in Hirst? One of the most baffling aspects of this season |
Lost faith? What evidence is there for that?
Reality is that Delap’s just a far superior player and has been playing very well- add in to that, that Hirst has suffered injuries and had to work back to fitness and it’s been a stop start season for George where despite having an impressive goals to minutes ratio, he’s never looked like challenging Delap for the starting role.
I suspect next season we will see him at his very best. [Post edited 16 Mar 7:23]
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| By George! on 07:22 - Mar 16 with 1574 views | textbackup |
Because our manager has strict guideline to when subs can be made. And won’t move from that. Even at 3-0 down [Post edited 16 Mar 7:37]
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| By George! on 07:29 - Mar 16 with 1543 views | Libero |
| By George! on 18:00 - Mar 15 by jasondozzell |
Yeah. I agree.
I love Delap but Hirst is actually the more complete striker. |
What?! | | | |
| By George! on 07:32 - Mar 16 with 1523 views | textbackup |
| By George! on 07:29 - Mar 16 by Libero |
What?! |
To play in the system we play, I also think Hirst is a better option.
Hes not a bull in a china shop. Hes very aware of the players around him and able to bring them into play.
Something I feel Delap lacks. He’s young and will of course learn. Likely not with us though. | |
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| By George! on 07:36 - Mar 16 with 1475 views | NeedhamChris |
| By George! on 07:32 - Mar 16 by textbackup |
To play in the system we play, I also think Hirst is a better option.
Hes not a bull in a china shop. Hes very aware of the players around him and able to bring them into play.
Something I feel Delap lacks. He’s young and will of course learn. Likely not with us though. |
Agree with this, has been the case since Delaps golden run of form dried up. Hirst just gets that role of bringing the attacking actions together and how to bring others into play.
I feel like we will look back on this season as the one where we gave Delap and McKenna an opportunity to learn from their mistakes - and then lose them both and therefore get no benefit at all. | |
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| By George! on 07:38 - Mar 16 with 1458 views | OwainG1992 |
| By George! on 07:32 - Mar 16 by textbackup |
To play in the system we play, I also think Hirst is a better option.
Hes not a bull in a china shop. Hes very aware of the players around him and able to bring them into play.
Something I feel Delap lacks. He’s young and will of course learn. Likely not with us though. |
Kind of agree.
I think Hirsts link up play is better than Delaps.
That being said I actually think we have 2 good number 9s and id quite like to see them on the pitch at the same time. |  |
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| By George! on 07:44 - Mar 16 with 1422 views | BlueOura |
| By George! on 07:32 - Mar 16 by textbackup |
To play in the system we play, I also think Hirst is a better option.
Hes not a bull in a china shop. Hes very aware of the players around him and able to bring them into play.
Something I feel Delap lacks. He’s young and will of course learn. Likely not with us though. |
I think it's because Delap is more mobile than Hirst and is better at pressing. The thing is though, we do not have the players all over the pitch to effectively play a high pressing game in the prem, particulalrly in the midfield area. We have seen so many times teams play through our press and within two passes they are running at our back four.
I would far rather we play a bit more like Forest and actually concentrate on getting players behind the ball and defending properly first, then countering quickly when we turnover. possession. In that system Hirst is our Chris Wood and ideally suited to the role. [Post edited 16 Mar 8:02]
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| By George! on 07:44 - Mar 16 with 1422 views | textbackup |
| By George! on 07:38 - Mar 16 by OwainG1992 |
Kind of agree.
I think Hirsts link up play is better than Delaps.
That being said I actually think we have 2 good number 9s and id quite like to see them on the pitch at the same time. |
The issue with that is our recruitment was so poor we didn’t get in that 3rd striker, so if them two play, there’s no option to make a sub | |
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