| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... 18:15 - Mar 15 with 8302 views | wolfyattheback |
Deleted my post....
Apologies for the offence I caused showing my idiocy... [Post edited 15 Mar 19:06]
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:01 - Mar 15 with 1439 views | Libero |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 19:13 - Mar 15 by FrimleyBlue |
But thats exactly what I'm saying
If he is here next season he's had his 1 free hit season. He doesn't go into next season in the champ with any credit it will be autos or out and if we aren't competing for promotion I do think ashton will make a change. |
Wes Burns’ Dad was right about you. |  | | |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:03 - Mar 15 with 1425 views | Libero |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:01 - Mar 15 by Libero |
Wes Burns’ Dad was right about you. |
Love that this has been reported as ‘abuse’ - ridiculous. | | | |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:03 - Mar 15 with 1431 views | blueasfook |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:01 - Mar 15 by Libero |
Wes Burns’ Dad was right about you. |
Are you going to engage in grown up discussion or just throw abuse at Frimmers? Maybe you should log off. |  |
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:06 - Mar 15 with 1386 views | Libero |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:03 - Mar 15 by blueasfook |
Are you going to engage in grown up discussion or just throw abuse at Frimmers? Maybe you should log off. |
I engage in football discussion with those that show they have the capacity for it- thanks for your advice but I’m fine, maybe those bed wetting about the best manager this club has had since Sir Bobby Robson would be well served by your guidance. | | | |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:08 - Mar 15 with 1368 views | blueasfook |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:06 - Mar 15 by Libero |
I engage in football discussion with those that show they have the capacity for it- thanks for your advice but I’m fine, maybe those bed wetting about the best manager this club has had since Sir Bobby Robson would be well served by your guidance. |
All Frimmers has said is the same thing several others have agreed with. Not sure why you're singling him out to disagree with. And if KM is the best manager since SBR is subjective. Personally, I'd put Burley in that spot! [Post edited 15 Mar 20:08]
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:10 - Mar 15 with 1353 views | Libero |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:08 - Mar 15 by blueasfook |
All Frimmers has said is the same thing several others have agreed with. Not sure why you're singling him out to disagree with. And if KM is the best manager since SBR is subjective. Personally, I'd put Burley in that spot! [Post edited 15 Mar 20:08]
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I didn’t ask mate, thanks though. | | | |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:11 - Mar 15 with 1350 views | blueasfook |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:10 - Mar 15 by Libero |
I didn’t ask mate, thanks though. |
Ok well stop bullying Frimmers then. It's so last year. He's turned over a new leaf now you know! | |
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:11 - Mar 15 with 1342 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:06 - Mar 15 by Libero |
I engage in football discussion with those that show they have the capacity for it- thanks for your advice but I’m fine, maybe those bed wetting about the best manager this club has had since Sir Bobby Robson would be well served by your guidance. |
I'd like to know how my responses to the OP fall under the bed wetting catagory? You've responded twice to my posts but no debate, no discussion no counter view. Others have and others have agreed with them too. |  |
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:29 - Mar 15 with 1282 views | NeedhamChris |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:03 - Mar 15 by Libero |
Love that this has been reported as ‘abuse’ - ridiculous. |
It's not ridiculous, it's the standard Frimmers bullying that happens on here.
Glasgow got banned for bringing up past arguments unnecessarily much like this... | |
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:30 - Mar 15 with 1275 views | ITFCSG |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:01 - Mar 15 by itfcjoe |
What about if due process suggests a British manager? |
Possible, but there isn't any at the moment unless you want to recruit dino Mick and others of his generation.
I wouldn't be too confident of our current due process though.
If it was that good we wouldn't have signed Muric. | | | |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:32 - Mar 15 with 1249 views | NeedhamChris |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:30 - Mar 15 by ITFCSG |
Possible, but there isn't any at the moment unless you want to recruit dino Mick and others of his generation.
I wouldn't be too confident of our current due process though.
If it was that good we wouldn't have signed Muric. |
Would you have had McKenna on your list before he was appointed?
If not, you mean there aren't any you know... | |
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:35 - Mar 15 with 1218 views | NeedhamChris |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:11 - Mar 15 by FrimleyBlue |
I'd like to know how my responses to the OP fall under the bed wetting catagory? You've responded twice to my posts but no debate, no discussion no counter view. Others have and others have agreed with them too. |
They don't, but you're never going to appease him so I wouldn't waste the energy. | |
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:35 - Mar 15 with 1222 views | strikalite |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 19:00 - Mar 15 by ITFCSG |
We are already NINE points adrift from safety with a much inferior goal difference, what are you smoking? |
I meant it's not as if we only have eight points and totally cut adrift, yes yes we're down now i get that but it's not as if we haven't been in touch of safety.. |  | | |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:41 - Mar 15 with 1175 views | Smoresy |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 19:54 - Mar 15 by You_Bloo_Right |
It's difficult.
But don't the summer and especially Jan windows point towards a club that has accepted relegation and is therefore building for the future? |
I don't believe the windows show that, honestly.
I thought our summer strategy showed a more mixed approach than sometimes suggested. Young Championship all-stars, sure (Omari, Delap, Greaves, Philogene, Clarke), but we also targeted players with PL experience (Johnson, Phillips, Gibbs-White, Broja, O'Shea, Muric), mature Championship players without profit potential (Szmodics, Ogbene, Townsend), and overseas talent (Cajuste, Ioannidis).
Would we have declined more PL experience had it been attainable? More free transfers of Johnson's quality or better? Would we have spent money on the Godfrey loan in January if we'd accepted relegation, or negotiated the Cajuste contract, or spent irrecoverable funds on Phillips' wages? I don't think so. Also we must have spent our way close to the podium on transfer fees for a newly promoted club (in the same company as Villa and Leeds I'd guess, slightly below Forest in 🥇), hopefully not so on wages as well, or that could hamper future investment should we rise again.
What we know we didn't do is focus on the overseas market, where the biggest rewards are made but also losses felt. I read recently that Brighton have around 1,050 employees; their scouting infrastructure is vast. It wouldn't surprise me if we possess below one-tenth of their capabilities in the foreign markets. It wouldn't surprise me if we tried to do a little bit of piggy-backing this season, with Cajuste an example of that.
If we didn't have the groundwork laid for serious overseas recruitment this season, I'm glad we didn't gamble personally. We know our permanent signings have shown their worth and adaptability for the Championship challenge at least once before, even if we were too optimistic about their development speed or ceilings. Better to not stick the house on black. | | | |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:44 - Mar 15 with 1142 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 19:00 - Mar 15 by ITFCSG |
We are already NINE points adrift from safety with a much inferior goal difference, what are you smoking? |
I think the accepted format is
9 (Nine)
rather than
NINE |  |
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 21:10 - Mar 15 with 1079 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 18:38 - Mar 15 by FrimleyBlue |
Please share why its rubbish
George got us 5th in the prem. Then relegated. We then didn't follow that up well and he was let go.. his credit was reset the minute we got relegated. Why should that be different to KM?
We won't be a small fish in the championship. So that excuse won't cut it. We will be 1 of only 3 parachute clubs in the league ( maybe 4 depending on luton)
I don't think it's gonna be easy due to the amount of players we will still need to bring in. But because of the finances available we should really be aiming for automatics. Just like any relegated prem side should.
KM has had a free hit this season. Are you saying he gets a free hit next season? |
Letting George go was a mistake, and why would we want to repeat that? | | | |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 21:30 - Mar 15 with 1030 views | ITFCSG |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:44 - Mar 15 by You_Bloo_Right |
I think the accepted format is
9 (Nine)
rather than
NINE |
This isn't law school. | | | |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 21:34 - Mar 15 with 1017 views | Libero |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:29 - Mar 15 by NeedhamChris |
It's not ridiculous, it's the standard Frimmers bullying that happens on here.
Glasgow got banned for bringing up past arguments unnecessarily much like this... |
Was David Burns ‘bullying’ Frimmers too?
Ridiculous stuff, thanks for reporting though- as was said in another thread, probably not the ideal candidate for board policeman… | | | |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 21:45 - Mar 15 with 988 views | J2BLUE |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 19:35 - Mar 15 by ITFCSG |
Because Wednesday has a shi*e squad of ageing players and journeymen when they were promoted. Our CM will look like them if we don't swap out Morsy and Luongo next season.
Even last season in the Championship we were poor v the top 6 sides. Southampton aside we only managed 4 out of 24 points vs the other 4 sides. That should have already been a warning that our squad was light years away from being Prem ready. And lo and behold, we performed even worse vs Southampton this season after spending tens of millions more than them!
You dare to say our recruitment has been satisfactory (price + performance) over the summer and in Jan? |
I don't think we can judge it yet. If we storm back to the Prem next season and those players are another year older and more experienced then we could look back on two good windows.
For the here and now, I think we could have recruited better. I posted when we were strongly linked with Clarke that I didn't really understand that one but I do think he will be good next season.
We could clearly have done with more experience and physicality. I hope McKenna has learnt from this season and we have a more balanced squad next season.
I just don't see how we're going to do better than McKenna next season. We don't want to become a club who change managers 2-3 times a season. |  |
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 21:47 - Mar 15 with 979 views | J2BLUE |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 20:30 - Mar 15 by ITFCSG |
Possible, but there isn't any at the moment unless you want to recruit dino Mick and others of his generation.
I wouldn't be too confident of our current due process though.
If it was that good we wouldn't have signed Muric. |
You could have said the same about Hladky in his first season.
That's why it's so stupid to write players off. Palmer might get injured next season and Muric comes in with less pressure and becomes our undisputed #1. No one would have predicted Hladky was an automatic promotion winning keeper in the Championship. | |
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 21:59 - Mar 15 with 933 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 21:34 - Mar 15 by Libero |
Was David Burns ‘bullying’ Frimmers too?
Ridiculous stuff, thanks for reporting though- as was said in another thread, probably not the ideal candidate for board policeman… |
Libs what's your need to mention Mr Burns? His dislike which I agree with was my needless senseless posts about wes and the sheer volume of them. We discussed this amicably via email and we left it all on good terms.
Not sure why the need to mention it when it has no purpose within this thread.
I've asked respectfully I feel for your reasons for not agreeing with my response to the OP yet you don't feel the desire to. BTW I appreciate you may not agree with it but I'd like to understand your thoughts on it. | |
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 22:00 - Mar 15 with 932 views | ITFCSG |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 21:47 - Mar 15 by J2BLUE |
You could have said the same about Hladky in his first season.
That's why it's so stupid to write players off. Palmer might get injured next season and Muric comes in with less pressure and becomes our undisputed #1. No one would have predicted Hladky was an automatic promotion winning keeper in the Championship. |
You're comparing night and day.
Hladky was Salford's Player of the Year and League Two Golden Glove, accolades you don't see with Muric.
Muric has been with seven clubs (perm and loan) before us and have never been a regular at any of them. In fact he was so bad at Forest on loan that his loan was cancelled and sent back just after five games. Look at the comments from the Forest and Burnley fans, I wish I knew some Demirspor fans, bet they would have similar observations as well. | | | |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 22:09 - Mar 15 with 872 views | NeedhamChris |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 21:34 - Mar 15 by Libero |
Was David Burns ‘bullying’ Frimmers too?
Ridiculous stuff, thanks for reporting though- as was said in another thread, probably not the ideal candidate for board policeman… |
I don't see why you needed to bring him up at all - considering you were off on a break from the board it seems a bit petty to be bringing things up from then.
I didn't report this though - it's becoming more and more apparent there's no point. [Post edited 18 Mar 15:41]
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 22:14 - Mar 15 with 826 views | J2BLUE |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 22:00 - Mar 15 by ITFCSG |
You're comparing night and day.
Hladky was Salford's Player of the Year and League Two Golden Glove, accolades you don't see with Muric.
Muric has been with seven clubs (perm and loan) before us and have never been a regular at any of them. In fact he was so bad at Forest on loan that his loan was cancelled and sent back just after five games. Look at the comments from the Forest and Burnley fans, I wish I knew some Demirspor fans, bet they would have similar observations as well. |
Not going to keep going back and forth on this but Muric was in the Championship team of the year in 2023 and kept 18 clean sheets. His last loan was when he was 23. Since then Burnley and Ipswich have given him four year deals.
Anyway, i'm sure you will find evidence he once kicked a cat in 2006. I'm off to watch the Celtics basketball game. | |
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| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 22:21 - Mar 15 with 790 views | Libero |
| McKenna HAD a lot of credit in the bank... on 22:09 - Mar 15 by NeedhamChris |
I don't see why you needed to bring him up at all - considering you were off on a break from the board it seems a bit petty to be bringing things up from then.
I didn't report this though - it's becoming more and more apparent there's no point. [Post edited 18 Mar 15:41]
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“At least he was here” lol.
If you talk the amount of total nonsense Frimmers does, people are gonna pull you up on it and point it out - the fact he’s so prolific at this that it’s caught the attention of a players family say’s it all- crazy that after that experience he’s still out here talking nonsense on the regular tbh.
Very valiant of you to defend his honour though. | | | |
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