| Musings for next seasons squad 11:36 - Mar 16 with 7417 views | _clive_baker_ |
Palmer, Walton, U21
Johnson, Clarke, O’Shea, Woolfy, Burgess, Davis, Townsend
Taylor, Morsy, Humphreys
Hutchinson, Burns, Ogbene
Broadhead, Chaplin
Szmodics, Clarke, Philogene
Hirst
Departures: Axel (regrettably), Delap for big dough. I would accept selling Greaves if we can get the sort of money we paid out and get Burgess tied down on a longer deal. Muric, AAH, Harness, Luongo. Phillips, Cajuste, Enciso, Godfrey loan departures. Slicker or Walton perhaps given they both take a squad place. I think it’s possible Hutchinson goes as well if we get a good offer, but I’d love to see him stay.
Need to strengthen in CM & up front. 2 or 3 choice loan additions, otherwise we hopefully don’t need to do too much depending on finances. I would be very happy with that squad and back McKenna to get us purring in the championship next season. |  | | |  |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 11:17 - Mar 17 with 1238 views | Radlett_blue |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 07:46 - Mar 17 by Horsham |
Be interesting to see what approach we take to recruitment. You’d have thought we’d be in a pretty good position to do deals like Southampton did with the Harwood-Bellis loan to perm option that gets activated when promoted.
We’re also going to be pressed right up against the 25 player squad limit so there has to be some outs and under 21 signings could be really useful in terms of squad depth.
And also we must try and sign Cajuste. Long shot but i think a little bit like Joe said on the BM podcast that it isn’t absolutely impossible…even if it’s probable he’ll get more interesting offers than we can give. |
Cajuste won't want to play in the Championship. He's dome enough to get a place in the Napoli squad or else a lower ranking PL club will make him a better offer than Town can afford. A new, dynamic CM & a decent striker to replace Delap are our priorities. Hamadi can be back up next season. |  |
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| Musings for next seasons squad on 16:04 - Mar 17 with 1132 views | itfcsuth |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 10:48 - Mar 17 by tractorboy1978 |
I think it is pretty controversial to say a 24 year old winger/10 that has scored 25 goals and got 17 assists in his last 87 Championship games is suddenly not going to be good enough to start for us at that level next season. He absolutely took the piss against Coventry in the cup a couple of months ago too. |
Whilst scoring a terrific goal, I think to say he took the piss out of Coventry is getting carried away.
Stats are terrific, but them stats don't tell you how he performed for Ipswich, I would much rather use what I see to judge a player.
It really isn't that drastic to say he has shown nothing to suggest he is a good fit for us, as with Philogene off the right, which is why I would not want to rest my cap on them being our starters next season. |  | | |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 16:16 - Mar 17 with 1118 views | Herbivore |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 09:58 - Mar 17 by itfcsuth |
That's ok, just a misinterpretation from you.
I don't think it is controversial to say there has been nothing that would make me want to start next season with Philogene & J.Clarke next season - fringe players right now. |
Meow. Not sure it is really a misrepresentation based on what you've posted, including in this post. I'd say it is controversial to say that given how good those two players have been at Championship level previously and given that we're likely to be playing at that level ourselves. |  |
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| Musings for next seasons squad on 16:19 - Mar 17 with 1101 views | Herbivore |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 16:04 - Mar 17 by itfcsuth |
Whilst scoring a terrific goal, I think to say he took the piss out of Coventry is getting carried away.
Stats are terrific, but them stats don't tell you how he performed for Ipswich, I would much rather use what I see to judge a player.
It really isn't that drastic to say he has shown nothing to suggest he is a good fit for us, as with Philogene off the right, which is why I would not want to rest my cap on them being our starters next season. |
You do know we're playing in the Prem this season and that the Prem is a much, much tougher league than the Championship, right? Dismissing players as being good enough for us in the Championship when they've excelled at that level before on the basis that they've not been great for us in the Prem is a bit daft, to be polite about it. | |
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| Musings for next seasons squad on 16:29 - Mar 17 with 1073 views | itfcjoe |
I'd say something similar
Departures
Godfrey, Enciso, Phillips and Cajuste return
Burgess, Luongo and Tuanzebe all leave at end of contract (hopefully can extend the 2 defenders there - but unlikely I'd say)
Delap for a big fee
1-2 of Davis, Omari or O'Shea to go - most likely Davis with Omari not far behind
GK - Palmer, Walton, Slicker, Muric - move whoever is easiest to out of Walton or Muric.
RB - Johnson, Clarke
CB - O'Shea, Woolf, Greaves [hopefully Burgess]
LB - Townsend and new signing [Dennis Cirkin maybe]
CM - Taylor, Morsy and 2 new marquee signings [Downes as one?]
RW - Burns and Ogbene
10 - Chaplin, Szmodics and Omari or a marquee replacement for him
L10 - Philogene, Clarke, Broadhead
ST - Hirst, Marquee signing and Ali or a loan
So 3-5 big signings needed [LB], CM, CM, [10], ST
Add 3 loans from PL clubs and then squad is looking great |  |
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| Musings for next seasons squad on 16:36 - Mar 17 with 1034 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 16:29 - Mar 17 by itfcjoe |
I'd say something similar
Departures
Godfrey, Enciso, Phillips and Cajuste return
Burgess, Luongo and Tuanzebe all leave at end of contract (hopefully can extend the 2 defenders there - but unlikely I'd say)
Delap for a big fee
1-2 of Davis, Omari or O'Shea to go - most likely Davis with Omari not far behind
GK - Palmer, Walton, Slicker, Muric - move whoever is easiest to out of Walton or Muric.
RB - Johnson, Clarke
CB - O'Shea, Woolf, Greaves [hopefully Burgess]
LB - Townsend and new signing [Dennis Cirkin maybe]
CM - Taylor, Morsy and 2 new marquee signings [Downes as one?]
RW - Burns and Ogbene
10 - Chaplin, Szmodics and Omari or a marquee replacement for him
L10 - Philogene, Clarke, Broadhead
ST - Hirst, Marquee signing and Ali or a loan
So 3-5 big signings needed [LB], CM, CM, [10], ST
Add 3 loans from PL clubs and then squad is looking great |
I'd agree with that, although I am really hoping we can keep Omari. If McKenna stays I wonder if we might go back for Sarmiento permanently. We should also have the pick of decent PL loanees that end up going out.
I'd say we have a less than 10% chance but we've got to try and get Cajuste here next season. [Post edited 17 Mar 16:37]
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| Musings for next seasons squad on 17:57 - Mar 17 with 964 views | portmanking |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 16:29 - Mar 17 by itfcjoe |
I'd say something similar
Departures
Godfrey, Enciso, Phillips and Cajuste return
Burgess, Luongo and Tuanzebe all leave at end of contract (hopefully can extend the 2 defenders there - but unlikely I'd say)
Delap for a big fee
1-2 of Davis, Omari or O'Shea to go - most likely Davis with Omari not far behind
GK - Palmer, Walton, Slicker, Muric - move whoever is easiest to out of Walton or Muric.
RB - Johnson, Clarke
CB - O'Shea, Woolf, Greaves [hopefully Burgess]
LB - Townsend and new signing [Dennis Cirkin maybe]
CM - Taylor, Morsy and 2 new marquee signings [Downes as one?]
RW - Burns and Ogbene
10 - Chaplin, Szmodics and Omari or a marquee replacement for him
L10 - Philogene, Clarke, Broadhead
ST - Hirst, Marquee signing and Ali or a loan
So 3-5 big signings needed [LB], CM, CM, [10], ST
Add 3 loans from PL clubs and then squad is looking great |
I think you may be right, although one of those mids may yet move on...
I'd also anticipate Morsy moving into a club captain role rather than team captain.
Possible signings off the top of my head:
Davis replacement: Aarón Martín or Ryan Giles (Cirkin also a great shout given his Wasserman links...)
2x New CMs (minimum): Flynn Downes, Ben Sheaf (if Cov don't go up?)/Hayden Hackney (if Boro don't go up?)
If Omari goes: Ben Doak on loan?
Marquee CF to compete with Hirst: Akor Adams (loan) with Richard Kone in reserve [Post edited 17 Mar 18:00]
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| Musings for next seasons squad on 08:40 - Mar 18 with 757 views | Stadiumofdark |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 17:57 - Mar 17 by portmanking |
I think you may be right, although one of those mids may yet move on...
I'd also anticipate Morsy moving into a club captain role rather than team captain.
Possible signings off the top of my head:
Davis replacement: Aarón Martín or Ryan Giles (Cirkin also a great shout given his Wasserman links...)
2x New CMs (minimum): Flynn Downes, Ben Sheaf (if Cov don't go up?)/Hayden Hackney (if Boro don't go up?)
If Omari goes: Ben Doak on loan?
Marquee CF to compete with Hirst: Akor Adams (loan) with Richard Kone in reserve [Post edited 17 Mar 18:00]
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Tyler Morton for me - has to be on the list |  | | |
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| Musings for next seasons squad on 08:44 - Mar 18 with 743 views | Herbivore |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 08:40 - Mar 18 by Stadiumofdark |
Tyler Morton for me - has to be on the list |
He's one I thought we might be interested in, given we clearly liked the profile of player that Hull had in 2023/24 and he was a regular there and had a good season. To have played two full Championship seasons and challenged for the play offs both times at his age is impressive and he's got good pedigree. | |
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| Musings for next seasons squad on 08:48 - Mar 18 with 731 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 17:57 - Mar 17 by portmanking |
I think you may be right, although one of those mids may yet move on...
I'd also anticipate Morsy moving into a club captain role rather than team captain.
Possible signings off the top of my head:
Davis replacement: Aarón Martín or Ryan Giles (Cirkin also a great shout given his Wasserman links...)
2x New CMs (minimum): Flynn Downes, Ben Sheaf (if Cov don't go up?)/Hayden Hackney (if Boro don't go up?)
If Omari goes: Ben Doak on loan?
Marquee CF to compete with Hirst: Akor Adams (loan) with Richard Kone in reserve [Post edited 17 Mar 18:00]
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Jordan Bos? |  |
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| Musings for next seasons squad on 08:48 - Mar 18 with 731 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 08:44 - Mar 18 by Herbivore |
He's one I thought we might be interested in, given we clearly liked the profile of player that Hull had in 2023/24 and he was a regular there and had a good season. To have played two full Championship seasons and challenged for the play offs both times at his age is impressive and he's got good pedigree. |
And this is what the PL season and money has done - we are suddenly now at the front of the queue for a player of his sort of pedigree, calibre and potential this summer. | | | |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 08:50 - Mar 18 with 722 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 07:46 - Mar 17 by Horsham |
Be interesting to see what approach we take to recruitment. You’d have thought we’d be in a pretty good position to do deals like Southampton did with the Harwood-Bellis loan to perm option that gets activated when promoted.
We’re also going to be pressed right up against the 25 player squad limit so there has to be some outs and under 21 signings could be really useful in terms of squad depth.
And also we must try and sign Cajuste. Long shot but i think a little bit like Joe said on the BM podcast that it isn’t absolutely impossible…even if it’s probable he’ll get more interesting offers than we can give. |
Not listened to that podcast so not aware of the context but surely it’s very unlikely Cajuste signs on a permanent deal? He’s done enough to get interest from the premier league. | | | |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 08:56 - Mar 18 with 693 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 08:50 - Mar 18 by _clive_baker_ |
Not listened to that podcast so not aware of the context but surely it’s very unlikely Cajuste signs on a permanent deal? He’s done enough to get interest from the premier league. |
I think it is very unlikely but not sure impossible. I guess your hope is you can convince him that being the main man here in an environment and with players/a manager he knows/trusts trumps being a rotation option at a lower end PL club. Financially I don't think we would be out of the picture. [Post edited 18 Mar 8:57]
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| Musings for next seasons squad on 09:05 - Mar 18 with 682 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 08:56 - Mar 18 by tractorboy1978 |
I think it is very unlikely but not sure impossible. I guess your hope is you can convince him that being the main man here in an environment and with players/a manager he knows/trusts trumps being a rotation option at a lower end PL club. Financially I don't think we would be out of the picture. [Post edited 18 Mar 8:57]
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Yeah I guess not impossible is fair, can’t see it happening though.
Financially we might be able to, I think the obligation if we stayed up was EUR10m which isn’t unreasonable, and we’ll have players on £40k a week next season so maybe could do it. Question mark for me would be if he can handle the rigours of a 46 game Champ season and the Saturday / Tuesdays. Perhaps that’s where young Humphreys could yin yang and get him involved in that left sided role. Taylor too of course. Really hope Cameron comes back in next season, he’s versatile too with his ability to play LB or in the 10 or left sided 10. Especially off such a good season for Wycombe.
I’d imagine Cajuste will have better offers though. CM certainly a big one to get right, it feels like whatever level we’re at Taylor isn’t one who will stake his claim for regular starts, and Morsy isn’t getting any younger. [Post edited 18 Mar 9:06]
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| Musings for next seasons squad on 09:10 - Mar 18 with 671 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 09:05 - Mar 18 by _clive_baker_ |
Yeah I guess not impossible is fair, can’t see it happening though.
Financially we might be able to, I think the obligation if we stayed up was EUR10m which isn’t unreasonable, and we’ll have players on £40k a week next season so maybe could do it. Question mark for me would be if he can handle the rigours of a 46 game Champ season and the Saturday / Tuesdays. Perhaps that’s where young Humphreys could yin yang and get him involved in that left sided role. Taylor too of course. Really hope Cameron comes back in next season, he’s versatile too with his ability to play LB or in the 10 or left sided 10. Especially off such a good season for Wycombe.
I’d imagine Cajuste will have better offers though. CM certainly a big one to get right, it feels like whatever level we’re at Taylor isn’t one who will stake his claim for regular starts, and Morsy isn’t getting any younger. [Post edited 18 Mar 9:06]
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I think it is a position where we are going to need two 'proper' regular starting level signings. I expect one of those signings may end up being the biggest fee we pay this summer. Downes has been mentioned a lot, feels a difficult deal to do to me but if we manage it that is going to be £12m+ and £40k a week in wages I would think. | | | |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 09:13 - Mar 18 with 663 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 09:10 - Mar 18 by tractorboy1978 |
I think it is a position where we are going to need two 'proper' regular starting level signings. I expect one of those signings may end up being the biggest fee we pay this summer. Downes has been mentioned a lot, feels a difficult deal to do to me but if we manage it that is going to be £12m+ and £40k a week in wages I would think. |
Downes would be a good pick up as one who could potentially grow with us IF we went back up. A natural successor to Morsy really, but better. | | | |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 10:46 - Mar 18 with 580 views | portmanking |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 08:40 - Mar 18 by Stadiumofdark |
Tyler Morton for me - has to be on the list |
Great call on Tyler Morton.
Morton and Downes would be a phenomenal double pivot and give us great control and aggression at the right times.
Morton's contract is up next summer too. I reckon for £18m you could get Downes and Morton in the building as our players.
Kieran_Knows reminded me about our interest in Jordan Bos. We were tracking Bos in Australia at the time we signed Davis in League 1 and Bos is now doing really well in Belgium. He's the perfect profile/value/physicality to replace Davis for only a few million.
Palmer/Walton
Clarke/Johnson
O'Shea/Woolfenden
Burgess/Greaves
Bos/Townsend
Morton/Humphreys
Downes/Morsy
Ogbene/Burns
Hutchinson/Chaplin
Philogene/Clarke/Szmodics
New Signing/Hirst/Kone | | | |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 10:59 - Mar 18 with 541 views | Stadiumofdark |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 10:46 - Mar 18 by portmanking |
Great call on Tyler Morton.
Morton and Downes would be a phenomenal double pivot and give us great control and aggression at the right times.
Morton's contract is up next summer too. I reckon for £18m you could get Downes and Morton in the building as our players.
Kieran_Knows reminded me about our interest in Jordan Bos. We were tracking Bos in Australia at the time we signed Davis in League 1 and Bos is now doing really well in Belgium. He's the perfect profile/value/physicality to replace Davis for only a few million.
Palmer/Walton
Clarke/Johnson
O'Shea/Woolfenden
Burgess/Greaves
Bos/Townsend
Morton/Humphreys
Downes/Morsy
Ogbene/Burns
Hutchinson/Chaplin
Philogene/Clarke/Szmodics
New Signing/Hirst/Kone |
Yep - that'd do! | | | |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 12:06 - Mar 18 with 478 views | BseaBlue |
| Musings for next seasons squad on 10:46 - Mar 18 by portmanking |
Great call on Tyler Morton.
Morton and Downes would be a phenomenal double pivot and give us great control and aggression at the right times.
Morton's contract is up next summer too. I reckon for £18m you could get Downes and Morton in the building as our players.
Kieran_Knows reminded me about our interest in Jordan Bos. We were tracking Bos in Australia at the time we signed Davis in League 1 and Bos is now doing really well in Belgium. He's the perfect profile/value/physicality to replace Davis for only a few million.
Palmer/Walton
Clarke/Johnson
O'Shea/Woolfenden
Burgess/Greaves
Bos/Townsend
Morton/Humphreys
Downes/Morsy
Ogbene/Burns
Hutchinson/Chaplin
Philogene/Clarke/Szmodics
New Signing/Hirst/Kone |
That would be a mental squad for the Championship wouldn't it. As Clive says above, this is what the Prem money has given us a sniff at.
Edit - Could Cam come back in and play the Davis role if required? [Post edited 18 Mar 12:07]
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