| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 15:20 - Apr 7 with 1266 views | BlueOura |
At this point it should be beyond obvious that all mainstream politicians are paid actors at best, but more often than not seriously compromised, nasty and / or evil individuals.
It makes zero difference whether they play for the blue team or the red team, have people really not worked it out yet? As the late George Carlin once said, "It's a big club and you ain't in it"
If you are still giving any credence whatsoever to any of the main political parties after everything we have seen over the last 2 decades you need to have a serious look at yourself. It's all one big and twisted show, stop giving it your energy. |  | |  |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 15:22 - Apr 7 with 1243 views | Bigalhunter |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 13:46 - Apr 7 by bsw72 |
Can I ask what is it you expect to achieve with this post. I can only think of two things.
1 - you genuinely believe that anyone politically aligned with Labour supports the alleged actions of this individual for which criminal charges have been raised, if so I think you need to take a closer look at your political bias as it seems to be reducing your ability to debate rationally.
2 - you are just actively trolling for some kind of argument, in which case you need to find something more fulfilling to do, for your own wellbeing.
Either way, I suggest you have a serious think about what and why you are posting on this forum. |
It’s just a little bit of fun for the Tweedles.
The first one posts it, the second one runs behind with the poo bag, scoops it up and dangles it off the nearest tree branch for giggles.
Just look at it as virtual care in the community. If they weren’t on here they’d be someone else’s concern out in the real world.
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| Here he is ! on 15:29 - Apr 7 with 1206 views | Benters |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 15:22 - Apr 7 by Bigalhunter |
It’s just a little bit of fun for the Tweedles.
The first one posts it, the second one runs behind with the poo bag, scoops it up and dangles it off the nearest tree branch for giggles.
Just look at it as virtual care in the community. If they weren’t on here they’d be someone else’s concern out in the real world.
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How is that VW camper today I bet it looks ‘sweet’ in the sunshine ? |  |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 15:32 - Apr 7 with 1193 views | positivity |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 15:09 - Apr 7 by Trequartista |
Can't believe the responses to this. If this was a Conservative or Reform MP this would have been posted 5 seconds after the story broke with up arrows flying around and general agreement.
Surely it's blatant hypocrisy to respond totally differently because its a Labour MP? These charges are above party politics. |
it's awful whether it's labour/green/tory/reform.
the difference is there's been plenty of instances of tory/reform protecting their own and circling the wagons rather than immediate suspension which seems to be this labour party's modus operandi. as it should be |  |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 16:31 - Apr 7 with 1067 views | Trequartista |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 15:32 - Apr 7 by positivity |
it's awful whether it's labour/green/tory/reform.
the difference is there's been plenty of instances of tory/reform protecting their own and circling the wagons rather than immediate suspension which seems to be this labour party's modus operandi. as it should be |
If you feel that's the case then a response and discussion along the lines is fine - I'm referring to the attacks on the poster rather than the post. |  |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 16:39 - Apr 7 with 1046 views | positivity |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 16:31 - Apr 7 by Trequartista |
If you feel that's the case then a response and discussion along the lines is fine - I'm referring to the attacks on the poster rather than the post. |
the op has plenty of previous for trolling posts; if the tone had been factual and non-sensationalist i doubt it would have been met in the same way.
the criticism should be on the mp in question, not on the labour party who seem to have done exactly the right thing in this case | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 16:59 - Apr 7 with 995 views | mutters |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 13:46 - Apr 7 by bsw72 |
Can I ask what is it you expect to achieve with this post. I can only think of two things.
1 - you genuinely believe that anyone politically aligned with Labour supports the alleged actions of this individual for which criminal charges have been raised, if so I think you need to take a closer look at your political bias as it seems to be reducing your ability to debate rationally.
2 - you are just actively trolling for some kind of argument, in which case you need to find something more fulfilling to do, for your own wellbeing.
Either way, I suggest you have a serious think about what and why you are posting on this forum. |
To be fair to the OP, this is the type of post, if about the Conservatives would garner a lot of conversation about how rubbish they are, how corrupt etc. but when it's against labour, who lets be honest has completely underwhelming since they have gone in, the response is very different.
One poster would have done their usual
"What is it about the corrupt, bigoted, blah blah Tory party that you like?"
The OP is right to raise this as a discussion point, it's not different to it being raised about any other member of the house. So if you are going to apply for those standards to these types of post then it has to be universal. |  |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 16:59 - Apr 7 with 996 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 15:09 - Apr 7 by Trequartista |
Can't believe the responses to this. If this was a Conservative or Reform MP this would have been posted 5 seconds after the story broke with up arrows flying around and general agreement.
Surely it's blatant hypocrisy to respond totally differently because its a Labour MP? These charges are above party politics. |
These charges are indeed above party politics. So why has he labelled the post "What is it you like about Labour?..." It has nothing to do with Labour. |  |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:01 - Apr 7 with 995 views | J2BLUE |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 16:39 - Apr 7 by positivity |
the op has plenty of previous for trolling posts; if the tone had been factual and non-sensationalist i doubt it would have been met in the same way.
the criticism should be on the mp in question, not on the labour party who seem to have done exactly the right thing in this case |
Is it trolling when the other lot do it? Very similar thread titles and the classic 'yea but Corbyn' style titles? Is that trolling?
It seems the standards, as Badger showed on page one, are not applied equally. |  |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:06 - Apr 7 with 963 views | positivity |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:01 - Apr 7 by J2BLUE |
Is it trolling when the other lot do it? Very similar thread titles and the classic 'yea but Corbyn' style titles? Is that trolling?
It seems the standards, as Badger showed on page one, are not applied equally. |
if it's criticising tory response (eg resisting suspending pincher, circling the wagons around the prittster) then it really couldn't be more different.
i think badger's response on page one saying it was the right thing to suspend him is bang on, how is it trolling? | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:08 - Apr 7 with 938 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 16:59 - Apr 7 by mutters |
To be fair to the OP, this is the type of post, if about the Conservatives would garner a lot of conversation about how rubbish they are, how corrupt etc. but when it's against labour, who lets be honest has completely underwhelming since they have gone in, the response is very different.
One poster would have done their usual
"What is it about the corrupt, bigoted, blah blah Tory party that you like?"
The OP is right to raise this as a discussion point, it's not different to it being raised about any other member of the house. So if you are going to apply for those standards to these types of post then it has to be universal. |
Badger does those "corrupt, bigoted..." posts because the wrong-doing was/is so frequent. It's disingenuous to claim "they're all the same", like with the scandal of free music tickets being equal to funnelling millions into your mates' businesses for unusable PPE.
There's very little defence for what the Tories got up to for 14 years, so this is the best the right can do. I don't know if they're trying to kid us or themselves but most people with half a brain can see they're chalk and cheese. | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:10 - Apr 7 with 933 views | J2BLUE |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:06 - Apr 7 by positivity |
if it's criticising tory response (eg resisting suspending pincher, circling the wagons around the prittster) then it really couldn't be more different.
i think badger's response on page one saying it was the right thing to suspend him is bang on, how is it trolling? |
The starting threads for banter purposes and the whataboutery train...
To be fair you may not notice Badger's banter as it's so repetitive and almost as funny as being kicked in the balls. | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:11 - Apr 7 with 925 views | positivity |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 16:59 - Apr 7 by mutters |
To be fair to the OP, this is the type of post, if about the Conservatives would garner a lot of conversation about how rubbish they are, how corrupt etc. but when it's against labour, who lets be honest has completely underwhelming since they have gone in, the response is very different.
One poster would have done their usual
"What is it about the corrupt, bigoted, blah blah Tory party that you like?"
The OP is right to raise this as a discussion point, it's not different to it being raised about any other member of the house. So if you are going to apply for those standards to these types of post then it has to be universal. |
to me, it shows a polar opposite.
tory mp does wrong, party prevaricates, defends until it becomes indefensible
labour mp charged, immediate suspension
i don't love every labour policy, fine to discuss that, but i can't see what labour has done wrong in this instance?
so for me it's fine to call out fooker's typical trumpist attack lines when it's part of a monotonous pattern | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:12 - Apr 7 with 923 views | positivity |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:10 - Apr 7 by J2BLUE |
The starting threads for banter purposes and the whataboutery train...
To be fair you may not notice Badger's banter as it's so repetitive and almost as funny as being kicked in the balls. |
he was bang on with that one, mp was in the wrong, labour reacted correctly.
what's the problem? | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:18 - Apr 7 with 892 views | MattinLondon |
To use rape and child sex abuse as a way to troll those on here who are inclined to vote Labour is pretty low.
If fraud, corruption (and whatever the equivalent of breaking lockdown laws is in a couple years time) becomes frequent with Labour MPs then I’ll understand your point.
But you’re using something hi by which everybody views with disgust (regards of political affiliations) as a tool to troll a few posters on here.
You should either be embarrassed for yourself or have the decency to delete your post.
Shameful. [Post edited 7 Apr 17:28]
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:21 - Apr 7 with 875 views | J2BLUE |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:18 - Apr 7 by MattinLondon |
To use rape and child sex abuse as a way to troll those on here who are inclined to vote Labour is pretty low.
If fraud, corruption (and whatever the equivalent of breaking lockdown laws is in a couple years time) becomes frequent with Labour MPs then I’ll understand your point.
But you’re using something hi by which everybody views with disgust (regards of political affiliations) as a tool to troll a few posters on here.
You should either be embarrassed for yourself or have the decency to delete your post.
Shameful. [Post edited 7 Apr 17:28]
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I voted Labour.
This thread is repeated multiple times a week in terms of style and thread title etc but this one has got people outraged. Of course. | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:24 - Apr 7 with 840 views | positivity |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:21 - Apr 7 by J2BLUE |
I voted Labour.
This thread is repeated multiple times a week in terms of style and thread title etc but this one has got people outraged. Of course. |
the difference is this one has no substance and accuses the wrong suspect | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:24 - Apr 7 with 831 views | mutters |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:11 - Apr 7 by positivity |
to me, it shows a polar opposite.
tory mp does wrong, party prevaricates, defends until it becomes indefensible
labour mp charged, immediate suspension
i don't love every labour policy, fine to discuss that, but i can't see what labour has done wrong in this instance?
so for me it's fine to call out fooker's typical trumpist attack lines when it's part of a monotonous pattern |
The man and the party should be treated separately, I completely agree. His alleged actions are horrendous and not any reflection on Labour or their values. They are separate entities, however if you look back over recent historical postings you will see a trend where something like this would be used to beat the Tories.
I am not a Labour or a Tory voter, so have no skin in the game so to speak, but you've got to see the hypocrisy here. Quite amusing how these events are treated differently depending on what colour flag people fly! | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:28 - Apr 7 with 806 views | positivity |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:24 - Apr 7 by mutters |
The man and the party should be treated separately, I completely agree. His alleged actions are horrendous and not any reflection on Labour or their values. They are separate entities, however if you look back over recent historical postings you will see a trend where something like this would be used to beat the Tories.
I am not a Labour or a Tory voter, so have no skin in the game so to speak, but you've got to see the hypocrisy here. Quite amusing how these events are treated differently depending on what colour flag people fly! |
no, i see it very differently to that.
i wouldn't criticise the tory party for pincher's wrongdoing, but attempting to defend and protect him is a totally different thing to immediately suspending him. i'd say that's totally fair game, wouldn't you? | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:31 - Apr 7 with 794 views | MattinLondon |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:21 - Apr 7 by J2BLUE |
I voted Labour.
This thread is repeated multiple times a week in terms of style and thread title etc but this one has got people outraged. Of course. |
Unless I’m going to get a whoosh - which I’m ready for.
This has outraged people more because the OP is using rape and sexual abuse as a way to get at some posters on here. If the charges against the MP were in line with corruption then he’d have a point. | | | |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:35 - Apr 7 with 775 views | bsw72 |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 16:59 - Apr 7 by mutters |
To be fair to the OP, this is the type of post, if about the Conservatives would garner a lot of conversation about how rubbish they are, how corrupt etc. but when it's against labour, who lets be honest has completely underwhelming since they have gone in, the response is very different.
One poster would have done their usual
"What is it about the corrupt, bigoted, blah blah Tory party that you like?"
The OP is right to raise this as a discussion point, it's not different to it being raised about any other member of the house. So if you are going to apply for those standards to these types of post then it has to be universal. |
If people want to enter political debate, then by all means do it - but this was not about debate or discussion and was in poor taste in my opinion.
Personally I find the use of any s3xual assault complaint, especially those involving a child, to try to win cheap points in some kind of "us and them" political competition particularly poor taste.
Before anyone accuses me of leaning one way or another politically - please don't, for transparency I have no particular political alignment or belief, and have voted for 4 of the English parties (I can't vote for Welsh, Scottish or N Irish) in general elections in my lifetime; Labour, Conservative, Liberal Dem and Green and voted to remain in the EU - and happily stand by how I have voted each time. |  | | |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:35 - Apr 7 with 769 views | MattinLondon |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 15:09 - Apr 7 by Trequartista |
Can't believe the responses to this. If this was a Conservative or Reform MP this would have been posted 5 seconds after the story broke with up arrows flying around and general agreement.
Surely it's blatant hypocrisy to respond totally differently because its a Labour MP? These charges are above party politics. |
No - the nature of the charges make it different to corruption or blatant lies. I think all people on here find those sort of alleged offences to be replusive.
If the OP had the title - disgusting MP, hope he’s kicked out of the HoC - then most people would’ve agreed. But he didn’t, as he was taking a cheap shot on here. | | | |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:36 - Apr 7 with 756 views | mutters |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:08 - Apr 7 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Badger does those "corrupt, bigoted..." posts because the wrong-doing was/is so frequent. It's disingenuous to claim "they're all the same", like with the scandal of free music tickets being equal to funnelling millions into your mates' businesses for unusable PPE.
There's very little defence for what the Tories got up to for 14 years, so this is the best the right can do. I don't know if they're trying to kid us or themselves but most people with half a brain can see they're chalk and cheese. |
Oh completely, it's clear that the Tories had run out for steam, and it was time for something new. They are very different entities, however I am still to be convinced that they are that different.
Personally I feel we shouldn't be judging Labour against what Tories did, as that's such a low bar but what is it that they are achieving. For them to do better than the Tories isn't that hard. I am still to see that but time will tell.
I've been hit with the "Corrupted, Bigoted..." Response a couple of times, due to me raising something half positives that the Tories did (it must have taken me a lot of time to find them 😂). At that point it was clear that no matter what was said or presented the response would toe the party line. No debate allowed, if you ever think something positive about the Tories then you are a Tory! 😂 | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 17:56 - Apr 7 with 674 views | Trequartista |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #943 on 16:59 - Apr 7 by The_Flashing_Smile |
These charges are indeed above party politics. So why has he labelled the post "What is it you like about Labour?..." It has nothing to do with Labour. |
I can't speak for the OP, but to me it is making an ironic point about what I've described above i.e. the posts would normally say "What is it you like about Tories?". The responses appear to prove the point. | |
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