| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 08:48 - Apr 14 with 4279 views | blueasfook |
Having rid ourselves of those corrupt tories, we now have a govt we can trust in, free of criminality. Other than the MP who likes to punch people out, the sex abuse one and now the International Arrest Warrant one of course. But this govt is much better though isnt it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8k67028e6o
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 08:50 - Apr 14 with 2998 views | BlueBadger |
You've logged in as Blueasfook, not Onceablue again mate. [Post edited 14 Apr 11:40]
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| *Reports as abuse*…. on 08:52 - Apr 14 with 2984 views | Bloots |
….yeah, but whatabout, etc, etc.
Choo, choo! |  |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 09:45 - Apr 14 with 2836 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
I voted Labour at the last Election.
I feel sorry for the bloke who was being harassed after a night out, and clearly lost the plot. All MPs are under huge pressure all the time, and something snapped inside. But he broke the law, no strings were pulled to cover it up or protect him, and he has been punished. Of course Michael Gove was filmed on a very big night out, when he appeared to be hugely under the influence of something, but his behaviour wasn't consistent with alcohol intoxication. He appeared a bit mollified by it all if anything, maybe Mike Amesbury should follow his example on a night out?
The case of the alleged sex abuse MP is currently subject to legal proceedings, and shouldn't be commented on in a public forum. But it is only right to note that no strings were pulled to cover it up or protect him.
However, at least one Labour MP feels the Party isn't doing enough:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65789649
I am not entirely comfortable with somebody who is so closely related to the ruling elite in a not entirely friendly state being selected as a Labour MP. There is scope for huge conflicts of interests.
But it's not quite the same as appointing a KGB Colonel's son the the House of Lords, and giving him direct access to Confidential briefings. [Post edited 14 Apr 9:57]
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 09:52 - Apr 14 with 2792 views | bournemouthblue |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 09:45 - Apr 14 by ArnoldMoorhen |
I voted Labour at the last Election.
I feel sorry for the bloke who was being harassed after a night out, and clearly lost the plot. All MPs are under huge pressure all the time, and something snapped inside. But he broke the law, no strings were pulled to cover it up or protect him, and he has been punished. Of course Michael Gove was filmed on a very big night out, when he appeared to be hugely under the influence of something, but his behaviour wasn't consistent with alcohol intoxication. He appeared a bit mollified by it all if anything, maybe Mike Amesbury should follow his example on a night out?
The case of the alleged sex abuse MP is currently subject to legal proceedings, and shouldn't be commented on in a public forum. But it is only right to note that no strings were pulled to cover it up or protect him.
However, at least one Labour MP feels the Party isn't doing enough:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65789649
I am not entirely comfortable with somebody who is so closely related to the ruling elite in a not entirely friendly state being selected as a Labour MP. There is scope for huge conflicts of interests.
But it's not quite the same as appointing a KGB Colonel's son the the House of Lords, and giving him direct access to Confidential briefings. [Post edited 14 Apr 9:57]
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Boris got away with so much, can you imagine the pandemonium if Corbyn had given a peerage to a spy
Look at the money trail with Russia too for the Tories and UKIP, the right wing press give them such an easy ride |  |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 10:21 - Apr 14 with 2727 views | blueasfook |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 09:45 - Apr 14 by ArnoldMoorhen |
I voted Labour at the last Election.
I feel sorry for the bloke who was being harassed after a night out, and clearly lost the plot. All MPs are under huge pressure all the time, and something snapped inside. But he broke the law, no strings were pulled to cover it up or protect him, and he has been punished. Of course Michael Gove was filmed on a very big night out, when he appeared to be hugely under the influence of something, but his behaviour wasn't consistent with alcohol intoxication. He appeared a bit mollified by it all if anything, maybe Mike Amesbury should follow his example on a night out?
The case of the alleged sex abuse MP is currently subject to legal proceedings, and shouldn't be commented on in a public forum. But it is only right to note that no strings were pulled to cover it up or protect him.
However, at least one Labour MP feels the Party isn't doing enough:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65789649
I am not entirely comfortable with somebody who is so closely related to the ruling elite in a not entirely friendly state being selected as a Labour MP. There is scope for huge conflicts of interests.
But it's not quite the same as appointing a KGB Colonel's son the the House of Lords, and giving him direct access to Confidential briefings. [Post edited 14 Apr 9:57]
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You feel sorry for someone who in drink, punched a guy to the floor and then had to be dragged off him? OK then...
Speaking of dodgy Russian dealings... You may have missed this in the Beeb article...
"Court documents seen by the BBC show Hajjaj has accused Siddiq of helping to broker a deal with Russia in 2013 that overinflated the price of a new nuclear power plant in Bangladesh." | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 10:59 - Apr 14 with 2614 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
"Lawyers acting for Siddiq denied the charges, which they said were "politically motivated". The ACC had not presented any evidence or informed Siddiq about an arrest warrant, the lawyers added."
Nothing like innocent until proven guilty. |  |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:02 - Apr 14 with 2583 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 10:21 - Apr 14 by blueasfook |
You feel sorry for someone who in drink, punched a guy to the floor and then had to be dragged off him? OK then...
Speaking of dodgy Russian dealings... You may have missed this in the Beeb article...
"Court documents seen by the BBC show Hajjaj has accused Siddiq of helping to broker a deal with Russia in 2013 that overinflated the price of a new nuclear power plant in Bangladesh." |
You may have missed the bit where she's denied it and no evidence has thus far been presented...
You've basically jumped in two-footed with a guilty verdict because she's Labour. | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:04 - Apr 14 with 2548 views | baxterbasics |
Elected officials can be as dodgy as the rest of the population "shocker" |  |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:07 - Apr 14 with 2527 views | Whos_blue |
What is it I like about Labour?
They're not tory.
Simples. |  |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:17 - Apr 14 with 2461 views | blueasfook |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 10:59 - Apr 14 by The_Flashing_Smile |
"Lawyers acting for Siddiq denied the charges, which they said were "politically motivated". The ACC had not presented any evidence or informed Siddiq about an arrest warrant, the lawyers added."
Nothing like innocent until proven guilty. |
Ok, we will revisit this one at a later date. Post bookmarked. | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:19 - Apr 14 with 2450 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 10:21 - Apr 14 by blueasfook |
You feel sorry for someone who in drink, punched a guy to the floor and then had to be dragged off him? OK then...
Speaking of dodgy Russian dealings... You may have missed this in the Beeb article...
"Court documents seen by the BBC show Hajjaj has accused Siddiq of helping to broker a deal with Russia in 2013 that overinflated the price of a new nuclear power plant in Bangladesh." |
Yes, I feel sorry for a bloke who has lost everything because, on a night out, someone was harassing him and he snapped.
Absolutely right that he has been prosecuted, convicted and punished, but he has lost disproportionately more than most other men caught up in a fight after hours, and in this case was provoked until he reacted.
So I see it as a waste of a career, and a personal tragedy. Had he started on the other bloke I would have no sympathy, but he was being baited when he just wanted a night out.
This is why most MPs just hang around the dingy Commons bars. That's not healthy, and contributes to the toxic atmosphere in Parliament referred to by the Warrington North MP. | | | |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:20 - Apr 14 with 2441 views | Whos_blue |
The tory party.
The gift that keeps on giving!
BBC News - Ex-MP Craig Williams among 15 charged with betting offences
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c230pvpdek9o
(I accept I'll have egg on my face if any Labour goons are involved, but the tories are making the headlines again!) | |
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| He wasn’t “caught up in a fight”…. on 11:22 - Apr 14 with 2430 views | Bloots |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:19 - Apr 14 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Yes, I feel sorry for a bloke who has lost everything because, on a night out, someone was harassing him and he snapped.
Absolutely right that he has been prosecuted, convicted and punished, but he has lost disproportionately more than most other men caught up in a fight after hours, and in this case was provoked until he reacted.
So I see it as a waste of a career, and a personal tragedy. Had he started on the other bloke I would have no sympathy, but he was being baited when he just wanted a night out.
This is why most MPs just hang around the dingy Commons bars. That's not healthy, and contributes to the toxic atmosphere in Parliament referred to by the Warrington North MP. |
….he just attacked the other bloke, everyone has seen the video.
Lucky to avoid a bit of stir. | |
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| He wasn’t “caught up in a fight”…. on 11:27 - Apr 14 with 2398 views | blueasfook |
| He wasn’t “caught up in a fight”…. on 11:22 - Apr 14 by Bloots |
….he just attacked the other bloke, everyone has seen the video.
Lucky to avoid a bit of stir. |
Didn't he actually get a custodial sentence which was then rescinded on appeal? That was a lucky touch for him. | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:28 - Apr 14 with 2384 views | TresBonne |
I give this one until 5pm this evening until locked thread, abuse reported, peed off Phil post. |  | | |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:32 - Apr 14 with 2364 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Honest question.
Do you think the way the party has handled each of these things is exactly the same?
Has Labour rewarded and supported the things you quote? Have the Conservatives rewarded and supported the things that you quote?
Do you see why people suggest that you are trolling? |  |
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| He wasn’t “caught up in a fight”…. on 11:35 - Apr 14 with 2342 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| He wasn’t “caught up in a fight”…. on 11:22 - Apr 14 by Bloots |
….he just attacked the other bloke, everyone has seen the video.
Lucky to avoid a bit of stir. |
The bloke had been baiting and harassing him. Everyone has a threshold beyond which they snap.
Post-pub fights start somewhere. He wasn't the instigator of the conflict, but he was the one to wade in with fists, and, as I have said, it was totally right that he was prosecuted and sentenced.
It's possible to have a both/and nuanced response to something like this. | | | |
| Yeah, it wasn’t a “fight” though…. on 11:38 - Apr 14 with 2324 views | Bloots |
| He wasn’t “caught up in a fight”…. on 11:35 - Apr 14 by ArnoldMoorhen |
The bloke had been baiting and harassing him. Everyone has a threshold beyond which they snap.
Post-pub fights start somewhere. He wasn't the instigator of the conflict, but he was the one to wade in with fists, and, as I have said, it was totally right that he was prosecuted and sentenced.
It's possible to have a both/and nuanced response to something like this. |
….that’s not “nuance” (TWTD buzzword alert), that’s a fact. | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:46 - Apr 14 with 2271 views | blueasfook |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:32 - Apr 14 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Honest question.
Do you think the way the party has handled each of these things is exactly the same?
Has Labour rewarded and supported the things you quote? Have the Conservatives rewarded and supported the things that you quote?
Do you see why people suggest that you are trolling? |
Don't we have a chancellor of the exchequer who basically made up their career history and is kept in her job? Not criminal, but certainly dishonest. Pretty sure if my employer discovered I'd lied on my CV, I'd be fired. | |
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:54 - Apr 14 with 2197 views | Whos_blue |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:46 - Apr 14 by blueasfook |
Don't we have a chancellor of the exchequer who basically made up their career history and is kept in her job? Not criminal, but certainly dishonest. Pretty sure if my employer discovered I'd lied on my CV, I'd be fired. |
I would imagine any employer would be more incensed if an employee was posting on a message board in company time when they should be working.
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| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:54 - Apr 14 with 2195 views | MattinLondon |
Local derbies of TWTD
Bankster v GlasgowBlue
Blueas x BlueBadger.
Bluefish v everyone. |  | | |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 12:06 - Apr 14 with 2130 views | vapour_trail |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:54 - Apr 14 by MattinLondon |
Local derbies of TWTD
Bankster v GlasgowBlue
Blueas x BlueBadger.
Bluefish v everyone. |
All this thread tells me is that the respective employers of the chuckle brothers are being short changed this Monday morning. |  |
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| Yeah, it wasn’t a “fight” though…. on 12:25 - Apr 14 with 2052 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Yeah, it wasn’t a “fight” though…. on 11:38 - Apr 14 by Bloots |
….that’s not “nuance” (TWTD buzzword alert), that’s a fact. |
Bloke A shouts abuse at Bloke B post-pub.
Bloke B twots Bloke A.
Bystander "Oh look- a fight!"
Bloots "No, not technically a fight, that's a fact!"
Everybody else watching "Looks like a fight to me!"
The word "nuance" was used in relation to being able to say it was right and proper that the MP was charged, convicted and punished, whilst also having a degree of sympathy for the circumstances that led to it and the disproportionate results. | | | |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 12:29 - Apr 14 with 2029 views | leitrimblue |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 11:19 - Apr 14 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Yes, I feel sorry for a bloke who has lost everything because, on a night out, someone was harassing him and he snapped.
Absolutely right that he has been prosecuted, convicted and punished, but he has lost disproportionately more than most other men caught up in a fight after hours, and in this case was provoked until he reacted.
So I see it as a waste of a career, and a personal tragedy. Had he started on the other bloke I would have no sympathy, but he was being baited when he just wanted a night out.
This is why most MPs just hang around the dingy Commons bars. That's not healthy, and contributes to the toxic atmosphere in Parliament referred to by the Warrington North MP. |
I don't feel sorry for him at all. The other bloke may well have been mouthing off and may have well deserved it. But theres no excuse for that MPs actions.
He's put himself in a position in society where his actions will possibly be judged more then ' other men caught up in a fight after hours'.
I also wouldn't call it a fight, the other man had his hands in his pockets and was sucker punched by a drunk politician. It was all pretty shameful |  | | |
| "What is it you like about Labour?..." #982 on 12:30 - Apr 14 with 2022 views | leitrimblue |
I like the way they have instantly attempted to raise the quality of life for the poorest in society by raising benefits and taking care of pensioners etc...
You also gave to appreciate the way they have taxed the wealthiest in society more in order to improve the lives of the poorest and attempt to achieve a more equal society..
What's not to like..  | | | |
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