| Palmer 11:52 - Apr 21 with 4228 views | portmanking |
I seemed to be the only one in the NSL bemoaning Palmer for the first goal yesterday. Am I the only one on here who thought he was criminally slow in getting down to the shot? Morsy's ice-cold glare at him suggested he felt Palmer should've done much better too.
There seems to be a real love-in with Palmer among the fans (simply because he's not Muric, perhaps?) But I can't really see much difference between him and Walton IMO. |  | | |  |
| Palmer on 12:41 - Apr 21 with 1027 views | portmanking |
| Palmer on 12:40 - Apr 21 by _clive_baker_ |
I'm not making a big deal of it, I'm just saying others might've thought he could've done better but not felt the need to publicly "bemoan" him for it. I'm one of those people. |
Well done, you. | | | |
| Palmer on 13:00 - Apr 21 with 983 views | ReusersTown |
Second paragraph sums it up perfectly. Because a lot of people have made a bit of a tit of themselves over Muric they're now overlooking Palmers performances as a sort of vindication. Palmer probably has a similar howler ratio to Muric so far, just with a lower number of big saves and without the same claiming ability. I really hope we go back to Muric in the Championship if he can sort his head out. As he was shot in the Soton match. | | | |
| Palmer on 13:01 - Apr 21 with 984 views | Illinoisblue |
Captain’s privilege I guess to glare at somebody when it was your feeble defending that allowed the shot. |  |
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| Palmer on 13:03 - Apr 21 with 962 views | portmanking |
| Palmer on 13:00 - Apr 21 by ReusersTown |
Second paragraph sums it up perfectly. Because a lot of people have made a bit of a tit of themselves over Muric they're now overlooking Palmers performances as a sort of vindication. Palmer probably has a similar howler ratio to Muric so far, just with a lower number of big saves and without the same claiming ability. I really hope we go back to Muric in the Championship if he can sort his head out. As he was shot in the Soton match. |
I'm not sure either keeper is the answer, sadly. It's quite a big issue IMO. | | | |
| Palmer on 13:03 - Apr 21 with 960 views | ReusersTown |
| Palmer on 12:12 - Apr 21 by mellowblue |
Palmer has a calm presence and is more predictable, the defence look more composed with him behind them than with the haphazard Muric. |
He's not being asked to pay in the same way as music was which was much riskier. | | | |
| Palmer on 13:07 - Apr 21 with 951 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Palmer on 13:00 - Apr 21 by ReusersTown |
Second paragraph sums it up perfectly. Because a lot of people have made a bit of a tit of themselves over Muric they're now overlooking Palmers performances as a sort of vindication. Palmer probably has a similar howler ratio to Muric so far, just with a lower number of big saves and without the same claiming ability. I really hope we go back to Muric in the Championship if he can sort his head out. As he was shot in the Soton match. |
"Palmer probably has a similar howler ratio to Muric so far"
Can you show your working please? On which occasions has Palmer done something that has directly led to us conceding a goal and points out of nowhere? And please don't include things where he nearly conceded a goal, which people seem to think is as bad as conceding a goal. | | | |
| Palmer on 13:07 - Apr 21 with 946 views | ReusersTown |
| Palmer on 13:03 - Apr 21 by portmanking |
I'm not sure either keeper is the answer, sadly. It's quite a big issue IMO. |
I think both will be absolutely fine in the Championship. Which is why I think with Muric having the higher ceiling should probably be the one we go with, barring an incoming. | | | |
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| Palmer on 13:09 - Apr 21 with 942 views | portmanking |
| Palmer on 13:07 - Apr 21 by ReusersTown |
I think both will be absolutely fine in the Championship. Which is why I think with Muric having the higher ceiling should probably be the one we go with, barring an incoming. |
Of course they'll be fine in the Champ. But if we're aspiring to build a squad/style capable of genuinely competing in the Prem, I don't see either being part of the furniture long-term. | | | |
| Palmer on 13:16 - Apr 21 with 915 views | ReusersTown |
| Palmer on 13:07 - Apr 21 by FoghornGleghorn |
"Palmer probably has a similar howler ratio to Muric so far"
Can you show your working please? On which occasions has Palmer done something that has directly led to us conceding a goal and points out of nowhere? And please don't include things where he nearly conceded a goal, which people seem to think is as bad as conceding a goal. |
Howler may be the wrong word for it, but he's certainly looked no safer than Muric and as I say he's being asked to do a more straightforward job. | | | |
| Palmer on 13:21 - Apr 21 with 903 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Palmer on 13:16 - Apr 21 by ReusersTown |
Howler may be the wrong word for it, but he's certainly looked no safer than Muric and as I say he's being asked to do a more straightforward job. |
Howler is indeed the wrong word for it, and the rest of that is a shocking take too. | | | |
| Palmer on 13:21 - Apr 21 with 899 views | waveneyblue |
The fact it went through O'Sheas legs probably meant he saw it very late.
He is clearly a very good keeper, so let's not go looking for another problem that isn't there |  | | |
| Palmer on 13:23 - Apr 21 with 893 views | waveneyblue |
| Palmer on 13:16 - Apr 21 by ReusersTown |
Howler may be the wrong word for it, but he's certainly looked no safer than Muric and as I say he's being asked to do a more straightforward job. |
My god the Premier League is bringing out the idiots.
It's muddling people's heads [Post edited 21 Apr 13:29]
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| Palmer on 13:34 - Apr 21 with 873 views | bsw72 |
| Palmer on 12:14 - Apr 21 by bournemouthblue |
That wasn't my first concern when that went in, my first question is how two or three people are on him and he has still beaten them |
5 (five) defenders within several feet of him. We’ve been scared to tackle in the box on more than one occasion this season. |  | | |
| Palmer on 13:37 - Apr 21 with 869 views | gringoblue |
| Palmer on 13:07 - Apr 21 by FoghornGleghorn |
"Palmer probably has a similar howler ratio to Muric so far"
Can you show your working please? On which occasions has Palmer done something that has directly led to us conceding a goal and points out of nowhere? And please don't include things where he nearly conceded a goal, which people seem to think is as bad as conceding a goal. |
On saves against expected, Palmer is the best of the 3.
https://theanalyst.com/competition/premier-league/stats
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| Palmer on 13:46 - Apr 21 with 845 views | CopfordBlue |
| Palmer on 12:12 - Apr 21 by mellowblue |
Palmer has a calm presence and is more predictable, the defence look more composed with him behind them than with the haphazard Muric. |
I agree. He’s been a decent signing. | |
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| Palmer on 13:50 - Apr 21 with 839 views | NeedhamChris |
| Palmer on 12:10 - Apr 21 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Just as culpable, but you didn't mention either in your OP? He's unsighted for the first, his reaction time is irrelevant because of it.
As others have mentioned, seems like another witch hunt is starting. Have you considered it might be that you were "the only one bemoaning Palmer" where you sit, because everyone else didn't see it that way? |
It is possible to hold multiple views at the same time.
I can't see why PK is getting grief for not declaring every opinion he has on the goal rather than the one he wants to discuss. | |
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| Palmer on 13:51 - Apr 21 with 838 views | DJR |
| Palmer on 12:25 - Apr 21 by portmanking |
He's done alright. I make it 3 v. good games in 10? (Villa, Bournemouth and Chelsea).
'Publicly bemoan'? I haven't sent him an email critiquing him personally. This is an ITFC forum to discuss the team, is it not? |
With the exception of Man Utd (which I watched on TV), I have seen him live in all his games and to say he has had only 3 good games is in my view wide of the mark.
In terms of consistency, he has (along with O'Shea) probably been our best player since he came into the team. [Post edited 21 Apr 13:51]
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| Palmer on 13:55 - Apr 21 with 823 views | Juggsy |
Muric has the athletic ability no doubt but he lacks in consistently concentrating fully for a whole match. However, his biggest weakness is lack of communication with his defenders. How many times did we see defenders scream at him to come collect, or see him come flying off his line unexpectedly causing chaos? Defensively we look way more assured with Palmer in the net which is night and day obvious to see. Can you coach communication into a naturally quiet individual? Also, following a few off field incidents, can the individual learn to control his personal qualities in line with those expected? |  | | |
| Palmer on 14:58 - Apr 21 with 768 views | management |
This is irritating now, 10 games played Ipswich player of the match 5 times. | | | |
| Palmer on 17:44 - Apr 22 with 647 views | waveneyblue |
| Palmer on 14:58 - Apr 21 by management |
This is irritating now, 10 games played Ipswich player of the match 5 times. |
Don't let facts get in the way of people airing their brain farts.
Any goalkeeper who plays for Ipswich will not be virtually error free, if he was, he simply wouldn't be playing for Ipswich.
Palmer is a very decent keeper, Walton is decent too. Muric isn't as bad as some people insist he is, however has had made a considerable number of high profile errors. | | | |
| Palmer on 17:54 - Apr 22 with 635 views | PhilTWTD |
| Palmer on 13:21 - Apr 21 by waveneyblue |
The fact it went through O'Sheas legs probably meant he saw it very late.
He is clearly a very good keeper, so let's not go looking for another problem that isn't there |
Surprised anyone's suggesting he ought to have got it, it was a free strike from about 10 yards through O'Shea's legs, as you say. He wouldn't have had time to react when he saw it. |  | | |
| Palmer on 08:46 - Apr 23 with 516 views | DJR |
| Palmer on 14:58 - Apr 21 by management |
This is irritating now, 10 games played Ipswich player of the match 5 times. |
And on the TWTD ratings for Arsenal he is only fractionally (one one-hundredth) second behind Axel. [Post edited 23 Apr 8:48]
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| Palmer on 08:52 - Apr 23 with 512 views | portmanking |
| Palmer on 08:46 - Apr 23 by DJR |
And on the TWTD ratings for Arsenal he is only fractionally (one one-hundredth) second behind Axel. [Post edited 23 Apr 8:48]
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And yet WhoScored gave him a 5.9 out of 10 rating (4th lowest in the starting XI) https://www.whoscored.com/matches/1821346/live/england-premier-league-2024-2025-
Which kind of supports my view that his performances are being viewed through blue-tinted lenses in so much as "he's a calm presence, because he's not Muric". | | | |
| Palmer on 09:08 - Apr 23 with 488 views | NedPlimpton |
So 0.1 higher than Jens? Do we also view him through blue tinted glasses?
5.9 is a 6/10 performance which isn't awful when you've just been hammered by Arsenal!
Palmer has had his moments (the back pass v wolves will haunt him for a long time) but I think singling him out in this game is a bit of a stretch |  | | |
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