| Dear oh dear Keir 08:59 - May 2 with 1321 views | onceablue |
Not good mate
But go on blame everyone else 🤔😂
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| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:02 - May 2 with 1279 views | Bluecoin |
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| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:07 - May 2 with 1230 views | EJP |
Cn you move this to the General area please? |  | | |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:17 - May 2 with 1177 views | NthQldITFC |
The old 'crying with laughter' emoji stamped on everything always makes me feel a bit sorry for the needy stamper.
Maybe it's because of an idiot egoistic cousin who used to apply it to everything for some sort of mistakenly perceived effect, usually after having 'done his research'. |  |
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| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:29 - May 2 with 1110 views | carlisleaway |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:17 - May 2 by NthQldITFC |
The old 'crying with laughter' emoji stamped on everything always makes me feel a bit sorry for the needy stamper.
Maybe it's because of an idiot egoistic cousin who used to apply it to everything for some sort of mistakenly perceived effect, usually after having 'done his research'. |
This is more important than just brushing under the carpet, until these illegal migrants are deported the better for this country. The cost of keeping these migrants is costing all us tax payers and the country millions. Do you want to house someone who has entered the country illegally, because these individuals are not from war torn countries and just want an easy life under Starmer or whoever is in power.
For those who are about to downvote me, this is not about being right wing it is the state of the country. |  | | |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:33 - May 2 with 1070 views | NthQldITFC |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:29 - May 2 by carlisleaway |
This is more important than just brushing under the carpet, until these illegal migrants are deported the better for this country. The cost of keeping these migrants is costing all us tax payers and the country millions. Do you want to house someone who has entered the country illegally, because these individuals are not from war torn countries and just want an easy life under Starmer or whoever is in power.
For those who are about to downvote me, this is not about being right wing it is the state of the country. |
Some are, some aren't, but I was playing the man not the ball in this case. | |
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| PLEASE MOVE TO GENERAL... on 09:35 - May 2 with 1050 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
....UNLESS KEIR HAS TAKEN OVER A FOOTBALL TEAM AND OP IS COMMENTING ON TEAM SELECTION ISSUES. [Post edited 2 May 9:35]
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| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:37 - May 2 with 1034 views | EuanTown |
That will be the good old intelligent British public using local elections for national issues and not confusing the two again.
Of course some will be because people don't like the current local parties and vote to get alternative candidates in, but not many.
Also look at voter turnout which again will be so low compared to elections for members of parliament. |  | | |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:40 - May 2 with 1002 views | Mullet |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:29 - May 2 by carlisleaway |
This is more important than just brushing under the carpet, until these illegal migrants are deported the better for this country. The cost of keeping these migrants is costing all us tax payers and the country millions. Do you want to house someone who has entered the country illegally, because these individuals are not from war torn countries and just want an easy life under Starmer or whoever is in power.
For those who are about to downvote me, this is not about being right wing it is the state of the country. |
But why are you not more upset about the Royal Family, Tory corruption, Covid corruption, austerity, the erosion of policing, education and the NHS funding etc?
They all affect way more people, cost infinitely more and have far bigger consequences on the country and the state it's in.
We had a hotel taken over a few months ago. Some of the locals (egged on by social media and plenty who aren't local at all) have treated the refugees really shoddily. Spreading fake rumours, accusing them of stuff - but on the flipside I've heard people talking about how they've seen them in the library trying to learn English, being incredibly polite to people, minding their own business largely.
This dehumanisation of a minority, within a minority as some sort of major issue just doesn't add up does it? If it was really about the money and the good of the country, these lot would struggle to crack the top ten. |  |
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| Dear oh dear Keir on 12:52 - May 2 with 724 views | MattinLondon |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:29 - May 2 by carlisleaway |
This is more important than just brushing under the carpet, until these illegal migrants are deported the better for this country. The cost of keeping these migrants is costing all us tax payers and the country millions. Do you want to house someone who has entered the country illegally, because these individuals are not from war torn countries and just want an easy life under Starmer or whoever is in power.
For those who are about to downvote me, this is not about being right wing it is the state of the country. |
If I’m wrong then I’ll welcome being corrected - I was under the impression that my international convention a developed country allocates 1.5% of its overall “budget” to international development- of which, the cost of housing migrants etc comes out of.
So on one hand it is obviously costing tax payers money but the money cannot (by international convention) be spent elsewhere. |  | | |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 12:55 - May 2 with 710 views | Illinoisblue |
Surely once a blue should be relegated to the news comments. Makes a dimwitted post and then flees the thread. Does it every time. |  |
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| Dear oh dear Keir on 12:57 - May 2 with 701 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 12:55 - May 2 by Illinoisblue |
Surely once a blue should be relegated to the news comments. Makes a dimwitted post and then flees the thread. Does it every time. |
Surely it’s a case of ‘ignore it and it’ll go away. Too many people engaging in this tediousness! | | | |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 13:04 - May 2 with 677 views | Guthrum |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:29 - May 2 by carlisleaway |
This is more important than just brushing under the carpet, until these illegal migrants are deported the better for this country. The cost of keeping these migrants is costing all us tax payers and the country millions. Do you want to house someone who has entered the country illegally, because these individuals are not from war torn countries and just want an easy life under Starmer or whoever is in power.
For those who are about to downvote me, this is not about being right wing it is the state of the country. |
Part of the problem is that we have gone the most expensive way about handling the issue. Most of these refugees have come here in the hope of working. Why not let them work and pay tax rather than bunging them on unsanitary ships or flying them to Africa?
What proportion of illegal entrants are not from countries which are war-torn, have oppressive regimes, are afflicted by climate disaster and so on? According to Home Office figures, of 24,062 small boat arrivals in Jan to Sep 2024 with recorded nationality, 16,539 (68.7%) were from very troubled countries: Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Eritrea, Sudan, Yemen, Somalia, South Sudan, Libya. Another 2,512 (10.4%) came from countries with oppressed/attacked minority ethnic, politcal or religious groups: Turkey, Egypt, Georgia, India, Ethiopia, Pakistan. Fewer than 500 were from Albania. Quite a lot (3,132) were from Vietnam.
Source: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67bf172fa0f0c95a498d1fb0/irregula
As anyone who has tried to claim benefits in the UK will tell you, it's not an 'easy life'. If you can get them at all (I couldn't following a work injury as a self-employed person), the money barely covers living costs, maybe not even that. Then there's all the hoops to jump through, with sanctions at the drop of a hat. |  |
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| Dear oh dear Keir on 13:08 - May 2 with 668 views | NedPlimpton |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 12:52 - May 2 by MattinLondon |
If I’m wrong then I’ll welcome being corrected - I was under the impression that my international convention a developed country allocates 1.5% of its overall “budget” to international development- of which, the cost of housing migrants etc comes out of.
So on one hand it is obviously costing tax payers money but the money cannot (by international convention) be spent elsewhere. |
I believe the figure that countries should spend on international aid is 0.7% of GNI but in reality very few countries get anywhere near that figure
We currently spend 0.3% of GNI on international aid, which was recently cut due to increased defence spending
A big chunk of our international aid money (around 20%) goes towards housing refugees whilst asylum claims are processed, so you're right in that it's money we would have been spending anyway. However obviously there's a very strong arguement for that money being used to increase our soft power across the rest of the world, rather than being used domestically |  | | |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 13:13 - May 2 with 641 views | Herbivore |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:29 - May 2 by carlisleaway |
This is more important than just brushing under the carpet, until these illegal migrants are deported the better for this country. The cost of keeping these migrants is costing all us tax payers and the country millions. Do you want to house someone who has entered the country illegally, because these individuals are not from war torn countries and just want an easy life under Starmer or whoever is in power.
For those who are about to downvote me, this is not about being right wing it is the state of the country. |
The country isn't in the state it's in because of a few tens of thousands of people crossing the channel in small boats every year. It's in the state it's in because of 14 years of Tory mismanagement, coupled with the economic self-harm of Brexit. So much of your post is just factually inaccurate as well. Do better. |  |
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| Dear oh dear Keir on 13:24 - May 2 with 603 views | Illinoisblue |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 12:57 - May 2 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Surely it’s a case of ‘ignore it and it’ll go away. Too many people engaging in this tediousness! |
Largely true, yes. But if we think of TWTD as a pub with various groups of people engaging in conversation and you had one person who kept popping up to interject with some half-baked nonsense and then run off, they’d eventually be knocked on their ass. | |
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| Dear oh dear Keir on 14:09 - May 2 with 471 views | StokieBlue |
| Dear oh dear Keir on 09:29 - May 2 by carlisleaway |
This is more important than just brushing under the carpet, until these illegal migrants are deported the better for this country. The cost of keeping these migrants is costing all us tax payers and the country millions. Do you want to house someone who has entered the country illegally, because these individuals are not from war torn countries and just want an easy life under Starmer or whoever is in power.
For those who are about to downvote me, this is not about being right wing it is the state of the country. |
How do they get an "easy life" when they don't qualify for any benefits and a large number of them get sent away if their claims for asylum are found to be false?
You seem to think the state of the country is solely down to a relatively small amount of immigrants (in comparison to our peer countries). That's demonising based on a single issue when it's clearly much more complex than that.
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| Dear oh dear Keir on 14:15 - May 2 with 440 views | NthQldITFC |
Reeves out, McDonnell in. | |
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| Dear oh dear Keir on 14:32 - May 2 with 395 views | Ftnfwest |
Played a blinder tbf, hugely limited the losses by suspending contests in labour led councils but putting whats left of the other councils inc tories on the block. |  | | |
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