| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem 08:53 - May 12 with 848 views | blueasfook |
Re-inforces the gap in quality between the established sides and those promoted. Gonna be a big struggle for Leeds, Burnley and whoever wins play-offs next season. |  |
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| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 08:59 - May 12 with 815 views | Horsham |
It’s going to be huge albeit I think we got the thin end of the stick a lot this season and have been in my opinion worth a few more points…but even with even luck I think we’d be about 10 shy of 17th.
2 points related to that.
1/ 10 is still a massive gap and;
2/ there’s no reason to suggest any promoted team will get an even chance anyway. |  | | |
| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 09:10 - May 12 with 759 views | Churchman |
| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 08:59 - May 12 by Horsham |
It’s going to be huge albeit I think we got the thin end of the stick a lot this season and have been in my opinion worth a few more points…but even with even luck I think we’d be about 10 shy of 17th.
2 points related to that.
1/ 10 is still a massive gap and;
2/ there’s no reason to suggest any promoted team will get an even chance anyway. |
Leeds might be ok. Genuinely a club the PL will want so they’ll get an even break from officials. They also have a few Premier League standard players before the signings they’ll make and a good supporter base.
They also have rest? Forget it.
As for ourselves? We’ve been a mile short, though not for the want of trying. That analysis of why has I hope started. What ambitions the owners and club have will become evident in the next couple of months, I suspect. |  | | |
| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 09:27 - May 12 with 699 views | tractorboy1978 |
| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 09:10 - May 12 by Churchman |
Leeds might be ok. Genuinely a club the PL will want so they’ll get an even break from officials. They also have a few Premier League standard players before the signings they’ll make and a good supporter base.
They also have rest? Forget it.
As for ourselves? We’ve been a mile short, though not for the want of trying. That analysis of why has I hope started. What ambitions the owners and club have will become evident in the next couple of months, I suspect. |
Burnley and the play off winners aside, who are they going to finish above though? I think we are at the stage now where you need an established team to have an absolute nightmare and get absolutely everything wrong for a promoted team to stay up. Man Utd and Spurs being 16th/17th and in the Europa League final shows you the strength of the league. |  | | |
| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 09:44 - May 12 with 649 views | ElderGrizzly |
| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 09:27 - May 12 by tractorboy1978 |
Burnley and the play off winners aside, who are they going to finish above though? I think we are at the stage now where you need an established team to have an absolute nightmare and get absolutely everything wrong for a promoted team to stay up. Man Utd and Spurs being 16th/17th and in the Europa League final shows you the strength of the league. |
This is the worrying state we are in and competing against.
The so-called 'smaller' teams have had their best seasons ever in the league this season with record points totals. Are they going to fall off a cliff-edge next season?
Bournemouth might be vulnerable to their coach leaving I guess. Fulham haven't really got any superstars to depart.
Teams closer to the bottom like West Ham will buy their way higher when Potter can get his own players in.
You do really look at the PL and think if we get back up, just getting anywhere near 17th is going to need a miracle. Or a Premier League points deduction of course... [Post edited 12 May 9:45]
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| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 11:16 - May 12 with 536 views | tractorboy1978 |
| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 09:44 - May 12 by ElderGrizzly |
This is the worrying state we are in and competing against.
The so-called 'smaller' teams have had their best seasons ever in the league this season with record points totals. Are they going to fall off a cliff-edge next season?
Bournemouth might be vulnerable to their coach leaving I guess. Fulham haven't really got any superstars to depart.
Teams closer to the bottom like West Ham will buy their way higher when Potter can get his own players in.
You do really look at the PL and think if we get back up, just getting anywhere near 17th is going to need a miracle. Or a Premier League points deduction of course... [Post edited 12 May 9:45]
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It's hard to see Brentford/Bournemouth falling off a cliff to the extent they get relegated even if you account for Frank/Iraola leaving or players leaving. Two clubs that are seriously well run and on the ball with recruitment. Everton have been a turd that won't flush but I would imagine Moyes will be backed as far as he can be this summer and they will be a comfortable mid-table proposition.
West Ham couldn't be any worse than they have been this season (and they are still 18 points clear of 18th). Palace and Fulham are solid, no thrills mid-table PL teams. Wolves were our best bet this season but when it boils down to it they have 3 Brazil internationals and various Portugal internationals throughout their side.
And obviously Spurs/Man United aren't going to be as bad next season either. | | | |
| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 11:20 - May 12 with 523 views | pointofblue |
Wolves could be in trouble if Pereira moves on. In order to stay up, the promoted teams need basket cases to replace them. There isn't really any in the division at the moment, though some threatening to be - as mentioned Wolves, Forest with their non-owner, Everton and West Ham seem to be walking the tightrope more often than not. Unfortunately for us, they all sorted themselves out this season.
I think Spurs are only down there due to injuries. I do wonder whether Manchester United are stuck in a spiral, though. Enough to go down? Not so sure. | |
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| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 11:47 - May 12 with 492 views | Vaughan8 |
| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 09:27 - May 12 by tractorboy1978 |
Burnley and the play off winners aside, who are they going to finish above though? I think we are at the stage now where you need an established team to have an absolute nightmare and get absolutely everything wrong for a promoted team to stay up. Man Utd and Spurs being 16th/17th and in the Europa League final shows you the strength of the league. |
THis is what probably most of us were thinkng after initial hope of staying up.
I think after Palace beat us, you just looked at the table and thought, which 3 teams are we actually going to finish above.
The only team other than the 2 promoted ones were Wolves and look what they've done the last few months and their players are unfortunately superior to ours. | | | |
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| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 12:35 - May 12 with 428 views | ElderGrizzly |
| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 11:16 - May 12 by tractorboy1978 |
It's hard to see Brentford/Bournemouth falling off a cliff to the extent they get relegated even if you account for Frank/Iraola leaving or players leaving. Two clubs that are seriously well run and on the ball with recruitment. Everton have been a turd that won't flush but I would imagine Moyes will be backed as far as he can be this summer and they will be a comfortable mid-table proposition.
West Ham couldn't be any worse than they have been this season (and they are still 18 points clear of 18th). Palace and Fulham are solid, no thrills mid-table PL teams. Wolves were our best bet this season but when it boils down to it they have 3 Brazil internationals and various Portugal internationals throughout their side.
And obviously Spurs/Man United aren't going to be as bad next season either. |
Agree on Bournemouth and Brentford (and the others tbh!)
It does very much look like a closed shop unless someone suffers a significant points penalty or they really do sh!t the bed in terms of managers/players leaving. | | | |
| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 13:26 - May 12 with 367 views | itfc_bucks |
| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 11:20 - May 12 by pointofblue |
Wolves could be in trouble if Pereira moves on. In order to stay up, the promoted teams need basket cases to replace them. There isn't really any in the division at the moment, though some threatening to be - as mentioned Wolves, Forest with their non-owner, Everton and West Ham seem to be walking the tightrope more often than not. Unfortunately for us, they all sorted themselves out this season.
I think Spurs are only down there due to injuries. I do wonder whether Manchester United are stuck in a spiral, though. Enough to go down? Not so sure. |
United seem in an absolute doom-loop, and I'd genuinely laugh myself to a hernia if they went down, but I just can't see it happening. | | | |
| 16 pts seperates the bottom three from the rest in prem on 13:31 - May 12 with 359 views | catch74 |
I genuinely don’t think we were miles away this season. Sign Ionnadis and maybe a reasonable target like Downes think we’d be close. Maybe, as McKenna said, Enciso all
season too. All teams get injuries but think we’ve gone above and beyond with them and that really hasn’t helped.
Sadly we haven’t been good enough but hope we can keep the youngsters add a decent midfield and maybe get to go again in a year or so.
Teams have come up from the Championship have come up and established themselves over the last decade or so, it’s doable but very hard from Div 1 like we’ve tried. |  |
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