| Injuries 08:34 - May 31 with 1866 views | itfc_bucks |
We never really stood a chance, did we?
Just seen a table showing we had the third highest number of "player days" lost to injury. More than 1500.
A squad with our experience just couldn't sustain that.
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| Injuries on 08:51 - May 31 with 1765 views | surreyblue |
I've seen a graphic for Arsenal showing which players were available/injured/suspended for each game and I'd be interested to see the same for us.
We all love a meaningless stat, and the £130m spent over the season is talked about a lot, but I wonder what the average transfer fee for players available was over the season. | | | |
| Injuries on 10:09 - May 31 with 1604 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
I wonder if any of it is due to the intensity of PL football, or just bad luck. Feel like we fared pretty well the prior two season. Smodics was the biggest miss in my opinion, wonder how many additional points we might have picked up from his goals. | | | |
| Injuries on 10:52 - May 31 with 1517 views | Mookamoo |
| Injuries on 10:09 - May 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I wonder if any of it is due to the intensity of PL football, or just bad luck. Feel like we fared pretty well the prior two season. Smodics was the biggest miss in my opinion, wonder how many additional points we might have picked up from his goals. |
Has to be the intensity. McKenna knew we could only compete if we stepped up and tried to match the power and strength of the PL teams. Thats the main difference between our Championship players and what we were up against. Greaves was typical - he will be a very good PL player after a couple of seasons playing at that level. As soon as he got going this season, he was out for a time. Same with Hutchinson.
Not sure we had much of a choice other than just go for it and work up to, and in some cases, beyond the limits.
Agree with Szmodics. They were banking on 10+ goals from him. Without that, we were stuffed. |  | | |
| Injuries on 12:51 - May 31 with 1348 views | ghostofescobar |
| Injuries on 10:52 - May 31 by Mookamoo |
Has to be the intensity. McKenna knew we could only compete if we stepped up and tried to match the power and strength of the PL teams. Thats the main difference between our Championship players and what we were up against. Greaves was typical - he will be a very good PL player after a couple of seasons playing at that level. As soon as he got going this season, he was out for a time. Same with Hutchinson.
Not sure we had much of a choice other than just go for it and work up to, and in some cases, beyond the limits.
Agree with Szmodics. They were banking on 10+ goals from him. Without that, we were stuffed. |
Whilst there is no doubt that the PL is more intense, I am a bit surprised that that isn’t balanced out by quite a lot fewer games. The Championship does seem relentless on that front. |  |
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| Injuries on 13:07 - May 31 with 1313 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
What protects against this is quality in depth, and that's where we are way behind all the other PL clubs (including Leicester and Southampton on paper) due to so many years away from the top | | | |
| Injuries on 13:08 - May 31 with 1308 views | Ryorry |
I've been saying that for several weeks now. |  |
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| Injuries on 13:10 - May 31 with 1290 views | WestSussexBlue |
Which annoys me more that some fans have called this season a shambles and Kmc isn’t up to it!
Jeez, we were absolutely ravaged by Injuries to key players. Something the BBC pundits also conveniently ignored when summarising us. | | | |
| Injuries on 13:14 - May 31 with 1263 views | Guthrum |
| Injuries on 13:07 - May 31 by SuffolkPunchFC |
What protects against this is quality in depth, and that's where we are way behind all the other PL clubs (including Leicester and Southampton on paper) due to so many years away from the top |
See also: Tactical substitutions. Unlike the previous two seasons, we were, in the main, unable to continue to impose superior quality over our opponents with the players we were bringing on in the 60th-70th minutes.
That had been a key points winner for us in L1 and the Champ. Now we were just running out of impetus at the end of games. |  |
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| Injuries on 13:16 - May 31 with 1250 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Injuries on 13:08 - May 31 by Ryorry |
I've been saying that for several weeks now. |
As have a few people. I seem to remember sharing a Sky table in January that had us joint 2nd on the 'days lost through injuries' table. We've not been out of the top 3 for most of the season, and by some margin compared to those further down. | | | |
| Injuries on 15:23 - May 31 with 1079 views | DJR |
One thing I think should be an area for improvement) is "illness in the group".
I am sure there were at least three games where this happened, including the last.
These are fit, young athletes who largely train outdoors, so to me it is rather puzzling given I managed to go through the whole season without any illness (including colds), let alone three bouts.
Of course, it made no difference in the end, but it might have done had our last game meant something. [Post edited 31 May 15:24]
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| Injuries on 15:25 - May 31 with 1066 views | BloomBlue |
Who was 1st and 2nd in that table? |  | | |
| Injuries on 15:28 - May 31 with 1059 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Injuries on 15:23 - May 31 by DJR |
One thing I think should be an area for improvement) is "illness in the group".
I am sure there were at least three games where this happened, including the last.
These are fit, young athletes who largely train outdoors, so to me it is rather puzzling given I managed to go through the whole season without any illness (including colds), let alone three bouts.
Of course, it made no difference in the end, but it might have done had our last game meant something. [Post edited 31 May 15:24]
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Many have young families. Always a risk one of their kids brings something home, and then that player introduces it into the group.
I think it would be hard to guard against that. | | | |
| Injuries on 15:29 - May 31 with 1049 views | Mookamoo |
| Injuries on 15:23 - May 31 by DJR |
One thing I think should be an area for improvement) is "illness in the group".
I am sure there were at least three games where this happened, including the last.
These are fit, young athletes who largely train outdoors, so to me it is rather puzzling given I managed to go through the whole season without any illness (including colds), let alone three bouts.
Of course, it made no difference in the end, but it might have done had our last game meant something. [Post edited 31 May 15:24]
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I'm sure most clubs have had bouts of illness, the difference is their players can play at 80% and still be effective.
An 80% Burns just wasn't going to work. We tried to squeeze as much out of what we had and ended up breaking a lot of them | | | |
| Injuries on 15:39 - May 31 with 1013 views | Herbivore |
| Injuries on 10:09 - May 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I wonder if any of it is due to the intensity of PL football, or just bad luck. Feel like we fared pretty well the prior two season. Smodics was the biggest miss in my opinion, wonder how many additional points we might have picked up from his goals. |
Think some of it is definitely that and then some is just rank bad luck. Ogbene and Burns both doing tendons/ligaments in a game situation, same with Philogene, and Szmodics similarly doing his ankle, feel less likely to be down to intensity than some of the muscular injuries we've picked up. That's without mentioning Axel's washing up injury. |  |
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| Injuries on 15:42 - May 31 with 997 views | DavoIPB |
| Injuries on 10:52 - May 31 by Mookamoo |
Has to be the intensity. McKenna knew we could only compete if we stepped up and tried to match the power and strength of the PL teams. Thats the main difference between our Championship players and what we were up against. Greaves was typical - he will be a very good PL player after a couple of seasons playing at that level. As soon as he got going this season, he was out for a time. Same with Hutchinson.
Not sure we had much of a choice other than just go for it and work up to, and in some cases, beyond the limits.
Agree with Szmodics. They were banking on 10+ goals from him. Without that, we were stuffed. |
Did McKenna know we could only compete if we tried to match power and strength our recruitment would say otherwise. | | | |
| Injuries on 15:44 - May 31 with 998 views | Trequartista |
| Injuries on 15:25 - May 31 by BloomBlue |
Who was 1st and 2nd in that table? |
Brighton and Spurs |  |
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| Injuries on 16:00 - May 31 with 951 views | DJR |
| Injuries on 15:28 - May 31 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Many have young families. Always a risk one of their kids brings something home, and then that player introduces it into the group.
I think it would be hard to guard against that. |
I think it is the introducing it to the group is the area I had in mind, given when I had children, it was normally them that picked up illness first.
In such a case, my suggestion would be for the parent footballer concerned to isolate indoors to lessen the risk of spread.
And maybe the players need to be alerted to the first bout of illness in the school which their children attend, assuming that would be permitted. | | | |
| Injuries on 16:19 - May 31 with 907 views | Mookamoo |
| Injuries on 15:42 - May 31 by DavoIPB |
Did McKenna know we could only compete if we tried to match power and strength our recruitment would say otherwise. |
We recruited young talent with the intension getting them up to PL standard as quickly as possible.
If it worked, fantastic, if it didn't, we would have a squad of value and not one full of 30+ year old.
Ultimately it hasn't worked, but I still think our recruitment was pretty good on the whole. A consequence of that thinking is we have had some big injuries. I would argue those were our mostly our own fault and can't all be bad luck | | | |
| Injuries on 16:52 - May 31 with 835 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Injuries on 13:08 - May 31 by Ryorry |
I've been saying that for several weeks now. |
Who said that?  |  |
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| Injuries on 16:54 - May 31 with 833 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Injuries on 15:23 - May 31 by DJR |
One thing I think should be an area for improvement) is "illness in the group".
I am sure there were at least three games where this happened, including the last.
These are fit, young athletes who largely train outdoors, so to me it is rather puzzling given I managed to go through the whole season without any illness (including colds), let alone three bouts.
Of course, it made no difference in the end, but it might have done had our last game meant something. [Post edited 31 May 15:24]
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They room together, cram themselves in a video briefing room, sit on coaches together and rub each others thighs with baby oil. It’s inevitable they’ll catch all sorts. | |
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| Injuries on 17:14 - May 31 with 794 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Injuries on 16:00 - May 31 by DJR |
I think it is the introducing it to the group is the area I had in mind, given when I had children, it was normally them that picked up illness first.
In such a case, my suggestion would be for the parent footballer concerned to isolate indoors to lessen the risk of spread.
And maybe the players need to be alerted to the first bout of illness in the school which their children attend, assuming that would be permitted. |
Often the virus is present, and contagious before symptoms are present.
The suggestion in your final paragraph is a good one though - providing it was allowed. | | | |
| Injuries on 20:57 - May 31 with 597 views | PioneerBlue |
| Injuries on 10:09 - May 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I wonder if any of it is due to the intensity of PL football, or just bad luck. Feel like we fared pretty well the prior two season. Smodics was the biggest miss in my opinion, wonder how many additional points we might have picked up from his goals. |
SS was definitely a big missed in how we came to play but Ogbene or Wes missing for significant chunk of season meant we never really got to play how we hoped to play after those early months. | |
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| Injuries on 01:56 - Jun 1 with 426 views | Ryorry |
| Injuries on 16:19 - May 31 by Mookamoo |
We recruited young talent with the intension getting them up to PL standard as quickly as possible.
If it worked, fantastic, if it didn't, we would have a squad of value and not one full of 30+ year old.
Ultimately it hasn't worked, but I still think our recruitment was pretty good on the whole. A consequence of that thinking is we have had some big injuries. I would argue those were our mostly our own fault and can't all be bad luck |
Not clear what you mean there - are you saying that our “big injuries” were our “own fault” because we over-trained our “young talent” trying to get them up to Prem standard? | |
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