| Israel attack Iran 01:37 - Jun 13 with 6038 views | Perublue |
Oh dear … this is going to be a quick and large retaliation. |  |
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| Israel attack Iran on 01:48 - Jun 13 with 3234 views | TresBonne |
I am now indeed very afraid for the state of the world, if I wasn't already.
Who cares about McKenna to Brentford if there is no world for it to even happen in... |  | | |
| Israel attack Iran on 06:43 - Jun 13 with 3004 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
This isn't just some tit for tat strike. It seems that it has been a major attack. With Iran being a nuclear power, this is very, very worrying. I just don't get why the West condones Israel to be so aggressive time and time again. Defending against the attacks of last October and dismantling Hamas is one thing. But the suffering of millions of Palestinians is on a wholly different scale, it's nothing short of genocide. But now to attack Iran, this is surely a declaration of war? It seems that Israel believe that with Trump in the White House, he will back them up no matter what they do. Trump no doubt sees it as an opportuinty to clear lots of land in the Middle East so that he can develop it as a holiday resort. We have psychopathic morons as leaders in so many countries. It doesn't look good for the human race. |  |
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| Israel attack Iran on 07:16 - Jun 13 with 2904 views | bluejacko |
This didn’t come out of nowhere. The IAEA just released a damning report accusing Iran of hiding uranium enrichment activities. Iran responded by threatening to expand its nuclear program. |  | | |
| Israel attack Iran on 07:24 - Jun 13 with 2861 views | BrandonsBlues |
Anyone else get the feeling Israel are doing the dirty work of the USofA? | | | |
| Israel attack Iran on 07:30 - Jun 13 with 2824 views | JohnTy |
| Israel attack Iran on 07:16 - Jun 13 by bluejacko |
This didn’t come out of nowhere. The IAEA just released a damning report accusing Iran of hiding uranium enrichment activities. Iran responded by threatening to expand its nuclear program. |
The Israeli action has absolutely nothing to do with the UN report. |  | | |
| Israel attack Iran on 08:05 - Jun 13 with 2696 views | bluejacko |
| Israel attack Iran on 07:30 - Jun 13 by JohnTy |
The Israeli action has absolutely nothing to do with the UN report. |
Why not? Do you expect that Isreal will sit there and let a country that wants them wiped away acquire nukes? | | | |
| Israel attack Iran on 08:06 - Jun 13 with 2683 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Israel attack Iran on 07:24 - Jun 13 by BrandonsBlues |
Anyone else get the feeling Israel are doing the dirty work of the USofA? |
Trump ordered key personnel out of the region less than 48 hours ago.
He knew it was happening despite what they are trying to spin right now |  | | |
| Israel attack Iran on 08:09 - Jun 13 with 2682 views | StokieBlue |
| Israel attack Iran on 08:05 - Jun 13 by bluejacko |
Why not? Do you expect that Isreal will sit there and let a country that wants them wiped away acquire nukes? |
Israel is currently wiping Gaza away.
By your logic the Palestinians would be justified in attacking Israel.
Do you agree that's the case?
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| Israel attack Iran on 08:11 - Jun 13 with 2671 views | StokieBlue |
| Israel attack Iran on 07:24 - Jun 13 by BrandonsBlues |
Anyone else get the feeling Israel are doing the dirty work of the USofA? |
The US knew about it but they don't need Israel to do their "dirty work".
Netanyahu however, does need a constant state of war to be in power.
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| Israel attack Iran on 08:29 - Jun 13 with 2596 views | bluejacko |
| Israel attack Iran on 08:09 - Jun 13 by StokieBlue |
Israel is currently wiping Gaza away.
By your logic the Palestinians would be justified in attacking Israel.
Do you agree that's the case?
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Well by your logic Oct 7th didn’t happen then?
This has nothing to do with Gaza,it’s not as if Isreal haven’t gone after Irans nuclear program before is it? Obviously the intelligence from the Atomic Agency has shown that Iran are a long way down the path of nuclear weapons and Isreal have acted! | | | |
| Israel attack Iran on 08:33 - Jun 13 with 2574 views | NthQldITFC |
| Israel attack Iran on 08:05 - Jun 13 by bluejacko |
Why not? Do you expect that Isreal will sit there and let a country that wants them wiped away acquire nukes? |
...a country that wants them wiped away, who they want to wipe away. |  |
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| Israel attack Iran on 08:56 - Jun 13 with 2495 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Israel attack Iran on 07:16 - Jun 13 by bluejacko |
This didn’t come out of nowhere. The IAEA just released a damning report accusing Iran of hiding uranium enrichment activities. Iran responded by threatening to expand its nuclear program. |
I wonder how those negotiations might go now?
Donald Trump has said that Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb and that the United States was hoping to get back to the negotiating table, in an interview with a Fox News following the start of Israeli airstrikes on Iran. “Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb and we are hoping to get back to the negotiating table. We will see. There are several people in leadership that will not be coming back,” Fox News reporter Jennifer Griffin quoted Trump as saying in a post on X. |  |
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| Israel attack Iran on 08:58 - Jun 13 with 2483 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Israel attack Iran on 07:30 - Jun 13 by JohnTy |
The Israeli action has absolutely nothing to do with the UN report. |
Absolutely, a thoroughly corrupt, antisemitic organisation apparently so why would they! | |
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| Israel attack Iran on 08:59 - Jun 13 with 2477 views | DJR |
The crazy thing for me is that Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal in 2018, and he's now hoping for a deal which he would no doubt trumpet it as a triumph.
This article criticises that decision and also criticises Biden for not reversing it.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/trump-iran-nuclear-deal-withdrawal-f
"By the time he pulled the plug, Iran was well on its way to dismantling its nuclear program. International inspectors, who were granted full access to suspect sites, said in all of their routine reports that Iran was in full compliance with the deal’s terms."
"When Trump pulled out, he reimposed all the economic sanctions—not only on Iran but also on any country doing business with Iran. For nearly a year, Iran’s diplomats tried to find ways around the restrictions—as did several EU countries, though to no avail. (The Europeans weren’t willing to be barred from transactions in dollars for the sake of their paltry trade with Iran.)
Meanwhile, Iran’s leaders continued to abide by the deal’s other terms—they continued to dismantle their nuclear program and to allow intrusive inspections. Finally, though, seeing no way to break through the sanctions, they resumed enriching uranium and, gradually, the other once-banned activities as well. They did so, citing Paragraph 36 of the JCPOA: If one signatory finds that others “were not meeting their commitments,” then, after consultations, it would have “grounds to cease performing its commitments.”
"Why did Trump abrogate the deal? First, he didn’t much like arms-control agreements of any sort. Second, he particularly distrusted Iran, a view bolstered by his friendship with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (ignoring the fact that most Israeli military and intelligence officers supported the deal). Finally, and perhaps most significantly: To Trump’s mind, nothing Obama ever did could be touted as a success, so the Iran deal—a resounding success by all objective measures—had to be pummeled as (in Trump’s oft-repeated words) “the worst deal ever.” [Post edited 13 Jun 9:02]
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| Israel attack Iran on 08:59 - Jun 13 with 2472 views | Perublue |
| Israel attack Iran on 08:56 - Jun 13 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I wonder how those negotiations might go now?
Donald Trump has said that Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb and that the United States was hoping to get back to the negotiating table, in an interview with a Fox News following the start of Israeli airstrikes on Iran. “Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb and we are hoping to get back to the negotiating table. We will see. There are several people in leadership that will not be coming back,” Fox News reporter Jennifer Griffin quoted Trump as saying in a post on X. |
They don’t need to negotiate now. | |
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| Israel attack Iran on 10:03 - Jun 13 with 2274 views | brazil1982 |
| Israel attack Iran on 08:09 - Jun 13 by StokieBlue |
Israel is currently wiping Gaza away.
By your logic the Palestinians would be justified in attacking Israel.
Do you agree that's the case?
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They already are. |  | | |
| Israel attack Iran on 10:07 - Jun 13 with 2246 views | textbackup |
| Israel attack Iran on 08:06 - Jun 13 by ElderGrizzly |
Trump ordered key personnel out of the region less than 48 hours ago.
He knew it was happening despite what they are trying to spin right now |
I never normally give these things much notice, but when it’s USA and you commenting on it, I certainly take note! |  |
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| Israel attack Iran on 11:13 - Jun 13 with 2131 views | bluejacko |
Ok then a very simple question,put aside your anti Isreal rhetoric for a moment,
Are you all happy with the mad mullahs and Iran acquiring nuclear weapons and not only threatening the Middle East but in reality all of us? | | | |
| Israel attack Iran on 11:28 - Jun 13 with 2071 views | DJR |
| Israel attack Iran on 11:13 - Jun 13 by bluejacko |
Ok then a very simple question,put aside your anti Isreal rhetoric for a moment,
Are you all happy with the mad mullahs and Iran acquiring nuclear weapons and not only threatening the Middle East but in reality all of us? |
Did you not see my earlier about the impact of Trump withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal? Nothing in it amounted to anti-Israel rhetoric. | | | |
| Israel attack Iran on 11:29 - Jun 13 with 2070 views | Blueschev |
| Israel attack Iran on 11:13 - Jun 13 by bluejacko |
Ok then a very simple question,put aside your anti Isreal rhetoric for a moment,
Are you all happy with the mad mullahs and Iran acquiring nuclear weapons and not only threatening the Middle East but in reality all of us? |
I don't want anybody to have nuclear weapons. Do you think that being attacked by nuclear armed Israel makes Iran more or less inclined to pursue their development? |  | | |
| Israel attack Iran on 11:37 - Jun 13 with 2024 views | lowhouseblue |
| Israel attack Iran on 11:29 - Jun 13 by Blueschev |
I don't want anybody to have nuclear weapons. Do you think that being attacked by nuclear armed Israel makes Iran more or less inclined to pursue their development? |
it makes them less able to. |  |
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| Israel attack Iran on 11:50 - Jun 13 with 1950 views | baxterbasics |
| Israel attack Iran on 11:37 - Jun 13 by lowhouseblue |
it makes them less able to. |
Well this is the gamble for Israel. Yes this may degrade Iran's capability in the short/medium term, but simultaneously will make them more determined to achieve the ambition, and more likely to move their program underground and away from the scrutiny of international orgs.
Point made by the BBC news this morning, Iran looks at the example of Ghaddafi, who was persuaded / bribed to abandon his WMD programmes, only to end up dead in a ditch, whilst N Korea have nuked up and now nobody will even contemplate messing with them.
Iran are definitely one of the key 'baddies' in the region, they are the agitators arming and encouraging the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah, they made it clear they want Israel wiped off the map. It would be massively destabilising for the region if Iran succeeds in being nuclear armed, and would likely lead to Saudi Arabia doing the same possibly others such as Egypt. But that doesn't mean Israel has done the right thing here - big gamble, and the action itself also destabilising. For the region, the world, and for my investment portfolio! |  |
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| Israel attack Iran on 11:52 - Jun 13 with 1933 views | Trequartista |
| Israel attack Iran on 11:13 - Jun 13 by bluejacko |
Ok then a very simple question,put aside your anti Isreal rhetoric for a moment,
Are you all happy with the mad mullahs and Iran acquiring nuclear weapons and not only threatening the Middle East but in reality all of us? |
i think it would be of benefit to see a more balanced conversation about this topic, but spelling Israel wrong each time is just subtracting a little credibility from your points. [Post edited 13 Jun 11:53]
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| Israel attack Iran on 11:58 - Jun 13 with 1857 views | DJR |
| Israel attack Iran on 08:06 - Jun 13 by ElderGrizzly |
Trump ordered key personnel out of the region less than 48 hours ago.
He knew it was happening despite what they are trying to spin right now |
This comment from Trump certainly suggests at least a nod and a wink.
“I gave Iran chance after chance to make a deal. I told them, in the strongest of words, to “just do it,” but no matter how hard they tried, no matter how close they got, they just couldn’t get it done.
I told them it would be much worse than anything they know, anticipated, or were told, that the United States makes the best and most lethal military equipment anywhere in the World, BY FAR, and that Israel has a lot of it, with much more to come - And they know how to use it.
Certain Iranian hardliner’s spoke bravely, but they didn’t know what was about to happen. They are all DEAD now, and it will only get worse!
There has already been great death and destruction, but there is still time to make this slaughter, with the next already planned attacks being even more brutal, come to an end.
Iran must make a deal, before there is nothing left, and save what was once known as the Iranian Empire. No more death, no more destruction, JUST DO IT, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. God Bless You All! [Post edited 13 Jun 11:59]
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| Israel attack Iran on 12:05 - Jun 13 with 1821 views | lowhouseblue |
| Israel attack Iran on 11:50 - Jun 13 by baxterbasics |
Well this is the gamble for Israel. Yes this may degrade Iran's capability in the short/medium term, but simultaneously will make them more determined to achieve the ambition, and more likely to move their program underground and away from the scrutiny of international orgs.
Point made by the BBC news this morning, Iran looks at the example of Ghaddafi, who was persuaded / bribed to abandon his WMD programmes, only to end up dead in a ditch, whilst N Korea have nuked up and now nobody will even contemplate messing with them.
Iran are definitely one of the key 'baddies' in the region, they are the agitators arming and encouraging the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah, they made it clear they want Israel wiped off the map. It would be massively destabilising for the region if Iran succeeds in being nuclear armed, and would likely lead to Saudi Arabia doing the same possibly others such as Egypt. But that doesn't mean Israel has done the right thing here - big gamble, and the action itself also destabilising. For the region, the world, and for my investment portfolio! |
"move their program underground and away from the scrutiny of international orgs"
the un had concluded that they had already done so. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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