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Israel & Iran 12:29 - Jun 16 with 2903 viewsZx1988

At least the media isn't focusing quite as much on Gaza now, eh?

Funny how, after the week Israel had been having with regards to media attention on Gaza, they should suddenly reach the decision to start a war with Iran as well...

Or can we not say that, on the basis that it's antisemitic to suggest that Israel 'plots' things?
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Israel & Iran on 21:09 - Jun 16 with 919 viewsStokieBlue

Israel & Iran on 20:22 - Jun 16 by Leaky

Think your wrong there, some very well educated people in mt area are pro Reform.


Clearly not well versed in critical thinking then.

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Israel & Iran on 21:19 - Jun 16 with 913 viewsDJR

I am beginning to think that nuclear weapons (as well as regime change) are a pretext, and that having emasculated Hamas and Hezbollah militarily, Israel is now engaged in the same exercise in relation to Iran, having now got control of the airspace and destroyed a lot of Iran's firepower. Indeed, they are now issuing evacuation orders in Tehran.

No doubt the US are happy to go along with this.
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Israel & Iran on 22:06 - Jun 16 with 866 viewsblueasfook

Israel & Iran on 20:08 - Jun 16 by J2BLUE

In some alternate universe Corbyn is waving his Palestine flag and calling for Ukraine to surrender


That's this universe. You're thinking of the one where he is anti Putin and didn't shill himself on Iranian TV

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Israel & Iran on 23:12 - Jun 16 with 811 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Israel & Iran on 20:40 - Jun 16 by J2BLUE

Cheers mate. Means a lot from a member of the sixth form debate club.


Lol someone suggested the UK might use it's airforce to protect Iranians and Gazans from Israeli military aggression....we sent them back to primary skool debate club!

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Israel & Iran on 23:18 - Jun 16 with 802 viewsreusersfreekicks

Israel & Iran on 20:22 - Jun 16 by Leaky

Think your wrong there, some very well educated people in mt area are pro Reform.


Well educated in lies and prejudice?
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Israel & Iran on 23:21 - Jun 16 with 785 viewsBigalhunter

Israel & Iran on 17:12 - Jun 16 by Bigalhunter

Mirrors the uneducated, poor voters who’ve latched on to Farage’s lot over here.


I see two of its predictably bluntest tools have managed to nudge the downvote after a brief fumble.
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Israel & Iran on 00:39 - Jun 17 with 731 viewsJ2BLUE

Israel & Iran on 23:12 - Jun 16 by BanksterDebtSlave

Lol someone suggested the UK might use it's airforce to protect Iranians and Gazans from Israeli military aggression....we sent them back to primary skool debate club!


Clearly reading and thinking are not strong points of yours.

I did not suggest that might happen. I suggested we should shoot down Iranian missiles in exchange for Israel allowing a lot more aid into Gaza.

I am fully aware it is not going to happen.

Truly impaired.
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Israel & Iran on 00:41 - Jun 17 with 722 viewspointofblue

Israel & Iran on 21:19 - Jun 16 by DJR

I am beginning to think that nuclear weapons (as well as regime change) are a pretext, and that having emasculated Hamas and Hezbollah militarily, Israel is now engaged in the same exercise in relation to Iran, having now got control of the airspace and destroyed a lot of Iran's firepower. Indeed, they are now issuing evacuation orders in Tehran.

No doubt the US are happy to go along with this.
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Israel is also taking advantage of Trump's blase attitude towards Moscow. Because of this, Putin is unwilling to rock the boat too much as it may affect Ukraine. If there was a previous President in the White House, Russia would be in a position where defending Iran wouldn't lose them anything they hadn't lost already. As it is, Iran is being accepted as collateral damage to fulfil goals closer to home.

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Israel & Iran on 07:20 - Jun 17 with 605 viewsDJR

Israel & Iran on 21:19 - Jun 16 by DJR

I am beginning to think that nuclear weapons (as well as regime change) are a pretext, and that having emasculated Hamas and Hezbollah militarily, Israel is now engaged in the same exercise in relation to Iran, having now got control of the airspace and destroyed a lot of Iran's firepower. Indeed, they are now issuing evacuation orders in Tehran.

No doubt the US are happy to go along with this.
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This communique from the G7, a compromise to get Trump to sign up, effectively gives Israel carte blanche.

"We, the leaders of the G7, reiterate our commitment to peace and stability in the Middle East.

In this context, we affirm that Israel has a right to defend itself. We reiterate our support for the security of Israel.

We also affirm the importance of the protection of civilians.

Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror.

We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.

We urge that the resolution of the Iranian crisis leads to a broader de-escalation of hostilities in the Middle East, including a ceasefire in Gaza.

We will remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability.
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Israel & Iran on 09:49 - Jun 17 with 550 viewsleitrimblue

Israel & Iran on 14:10 - Jun 16 by blueasfook

What a stupid statement. Israel is acting to protect its own interests. Iran is a sponsor of terrorism throughout the world. I sometimes wonder whose side people like you are on.


In a choice between team terrorist sponsorer v team genocide, who should we support again and why?
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Israel & Iran on 10:00 - Jun 17 with 537 viewsleitrimblue

Israel & Iran on 20:14 - Jun 16 by DJR

It's political satire, but there is a kernel of truth in the sense that Western leaders calling for restraint are whistling in the dark.

As it is, John Crace took the piss out of the Tories, and he's doing the same to Labour. It's his job.

And whether he takes the piss out of the Tories or Labour, I tend to find it funny, just as I do Private Eye, and my politics have nothing to do with it.

I might add that I wasn't quite sure if you were calling me the new leftie alliance's propaganda man but, if you were, I am not sure why you would do that as I speak for no one but myself.
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Argh their onto yer DJR. Just gonna have to put yer hands up and admit you're the ' leftist alliances new propaganda chief' and General leader.

I told you it was a bad move to get that life size golden DJR statue outside the TWTD lefties alliance headquarters.

A mild piece of satire involving the glorious leader was never gonna get pass the elites craic at the expense of the glorious leader detector.

I think you could still save yerself with 50 hail Mary's and 100 though shall not mildly take the pee outta comrade starmars
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Israel & Iran on 18:00 - Jun 17 with 449 viewsgiant_stow

Judging from Trump's posts in the last 24 hours, he's:

a) Possibly losing it
b) About to order something sizable.

Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
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Israel & Iran on 18:03 - Jun 17 with 438 viewsJ2BLUE

Israel & Iran on 18:00 - Jun 17 by giant_stow

Judging from Trump's posts in the last 24 hours, he's:

a) Possibly losing it
b) About to order something sizable.


Wouldn't surprise me if Israel take him out in the next couple of days. Trump can then say we didn't do it, we could have but I gave him another chance to choose peace.

Whether anyone would be fooled is another thing.

Truly impaired.
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Israel & Iran on 18:05 - Jun 17 with 426 viewsDJR

Israel & Iran on 21:19 - Jun 16 by DJR

I am beginning to think that nuclear weapons (as well as regime change) are a pretext, and that having emasculated Hamas and Hezbollah militarily, Israel is now engaged in the same exercise in relation to Iran, having now got control of the airspace and destroyed a lot of Iran's firepower. Indeed, they are now issuing evacuation orders in Tehran.

No doubt the US are happy to go along with this.
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Shades of Iraq and WMD.

"CNN reported:

When Israel launched its series of strikes against Iran last week, it also issued a number of dire warnings about the country’s nuclear program, suggesting Iran was fast approaching a point of no return in its quest to obtain nuclear weapons and that the strikes were necessary to pre-empt that outcome.

But US intelligence assessments had reached a different conclusion – not only was Iran not actively pursuing a nuclear weapon, it was also up to three years away from being able to produce and deliver one to a target of its choosing, according to four people familiar with the assessment."
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Israel & Iran on 18:09 - Jun 17 with 401 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Israel & Iran on 00:39 - Jun 17 by J2BLUE

Clearly reading and thinking are not strong points of yours.

I did not suggest that might happen. I suggested we should shoot down Iranian missiles in exchange for Israel allowing a lot more aid into Gaza.

I am fully aware it is not going to happen.


Oh got it now, so you want our military to get involved because they could be neutral in their actions but won't be. Hmmm now who might benefit from that approach!
Go team Israel.

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Israel & Iran on 18:11 - Jun 17 with 390 viewsJ2BLUE

Israel & Iran on 18:09 - Jun 17 by BanksterDebtSlave

Oh got it now, so you want our military to get involved because they could be neutral in their actions but won't be. Hmmm now who might benefit from that approach!
Go team Israel.


Didn't realise you were this thick. What part of in exchange for substantially more aid allowed into Gaza didn't you get?

If Israel didn't agree I would keep our military out of it.

Truly impaired.
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Israel & Iran on 18:12 - Jun 17 with 389 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Israel & Iran on 18:05 - Jun 17 by DJR

Shades of Iraq and WMD.

"CNN reported:

When Israel launched its series of strikes against Iran last week, it also issued a number of dire warnings about the country’s nuclear program, suggesting Iran was fast approaching a point of no return in its quest to obtain nuclear weapons and that the strikes were necessary to pre-empt that outcome.

But US intelligence assessments had reached a different conclusion – not only was Iran not actively pursuing a nuclear weapon, it was also up to three years away from being able to produce and deliver one to a target of its choosing, according to four people familiar with the assessment."


A minor trifling detail...Israel has the right to self defence .....or something.

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Israel & Iran on 18:16 - Jun 17 with 372 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Israel & Iran on 18:11 - Jun 17 by J2BLUE

Didn't realise you were this thick. What part of in exchange for substantially more aid allowed into Gaza didn't you get?

If Israel didn't agree I would keep our military out of it.


Lol, you made so many posts about what we could do but wouldn't that it's hard to keep up. Perhaps you can direct me to where you first stated that we should keep our military out from any involvement again....but we got there in the end Mr Angry x

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Israel & Iran on 18:22 - Jun 17 with 340 viewsJ2BLUE

Israel & Iran on 18:16 - Jun 17 by BanksterDebtSlave

Lol, you made so many posts about what we could do but wouldn't that it's hard to keep up. Perhaps you can direct me to where you first stated that we should keep our military out from any involvement again....but we got there in the end Mr Angry x


Usually when you make some sort of deal the other side agrees to something in exchange for what they are getting from you before you give them that thing,

This isn't difficult. I know you are desperate to think of yourself as morally superior to everyone else but do at least try and read the full content of posts and not just the bits you want to see.

Truly impaired.
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Israel & Iran on 18:51 - Jun 17 with 278 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Israel & Iran on 18:22 - Jun 17 by J2BLUE

Usually when you make some sort of deal the other side agrees to something in exchange for what they are getting from you before you give them that thing,

This isn't difficult. I know you are desperate to think of yourself as morally superior to everyone else but do at least try and read the full content of posts and not just the bits you want to see.


Yeah I've got it, you finally got around to saying we shouldn't get involved militarily.

Edit...ps...the thing you claim to know about me is entirely your own projection fwiw.
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"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Israel & Iran on 20:00 - Jun 17 with 231 viewsJ2BLUE

Israel & Iran on 18:51 - Jun 17 by BanksterDebtSlave

Yeah I've got it, you finally got around to saying we shouldn't get involved militarily.

Edit...ps...the thing you claim to know about me is entirely your own projection fwiw.
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You kept ignoring the bit about aid to Gaza. Probably because you don't really care and just want to stick it to Israel.

Truly impaired.
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Israel & Iran on 20:18 - Jun 17 with 196 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Israel & Iran on 20:00 - Jun 17 by J2BLUE

You kept ignoring the bit about aid to Gaza. Probably because you don't really care and just want to stick it to Israel.


I'm not sure you've been paying attention to Western power plays since you were born.

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Israel & Iran on 20:29 - Jun 17 with 177 viewsSwansea_Blue

Phew, thank the lord Trump left the G7 to work on his big solution for a lasting peace. It seems that he’s thought up a post on Truth Social addressed to the Ayatollah Khamenei saying we know where you are, plus a thinly veiled death threat. Seems a rather simplistic solution, no? What are the chances of Iran saying, ok we surrender to all of your and Israel’s demands?

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Israel & Iran on 21:15 - Jun 17 with 124 viewsFreddies_Ears

Israel & Iran on 17:12 - Jun 16 by Bigalhunter

Mirrors the uneducated, poor voters who’ve latched on to Farage’s lot over here.


I was just about to post that, but you saved me the bother! Turkey is similar; the uneducated rural vote is behind Erdogan.

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