| Qatar has officially closed its airspace 16:48 - Jun 23 with 1932 views | TresBonne |
For people more clued up on either aviation or war than I am,
What does this mean? To me, it doesn't sound good... |  | | |  |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 17:00 - Jun 23 with 1831 views | dirtyboy |
Probably the Americans suggesting it as a precaution.
Want to be able to more easily identify shizzle flying in that direction towards their base if needs be. |  | | |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 17:04 - Jun 23 with 1809 views | bsw72 |
Qatar has got an airbase which is used by US / RAF among others - Al Udeid Air Base. It may help limit attacks on it or from it . . . hard to say.
Worth noting though that Qatar has only had it's own airspace since Sept 22, so this is probably a new situation for them as well! |  | | |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 17:12 - Jun 23 with 1722 views | TresBonne |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 17:04 - Jun 23 by bsw72 |
Qatar has got an airbase which is used by US / RAF among others - Al Udeid Air Base. It may help limit attacks on it or from it . . . hard to say.
Worth noting though that Qatar has only had it's own airspace since Sept 22, so this is probably a new situation for them as well! |
BBC has just reported:
The BBC understands that there is "a credible threat" to the US-run Coalition Air Operations Centre at Al-Udaid in Qatar.
The country has temporarily closed its airspace and I’ve been told the airbase is at a state of high readiness.
The threat is believed to come from a potential Iranian missile attack.
Al-Udaid is a massive base outside the Qatari capital Doha and is home to US Centcom’s headquarters for all its air operations in the Middle East, where British military personnel also serve on rotation. | | | |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 17:44 - Jun 23 with 1532 views | TresBonne |
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| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 17:45 - Jun 23 with 1525 views | Devereuxxx |
A lot of considerations here. Some reports say most US forces have been evacuated from the al Udeid site (difficult to know what sources to rely on for reliability and credibility when it comes to military logistics), but Trump gave a speech there earlier in the year - in front of a big banner saying Peace through Strength, ironically. So there is some theatre value in it as a target.
But, this is a air base on Qatari soil which is also the primary base for the Qatari airbase. With other nations on rotations. This is not some small base in Iraq/Syria where the theatre of conflict means response from the nation state is all but impossible. Pulling Gulf countries into this is surely self-defeating from Iran.
That said, Qatari air defence is strong, still credible any limited missile attack will be intercepted pretty easily. Iran have to be seen to retaliate, but will be looking for an off ramp, so a limited strike which they can sell as a win domestically is well within their modus operandi. |  | | |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 17:45 - Jun 23 with 1513 views | NthQldITFC |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 17:44 - Jun 23 by TresBonne |
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In or on? Asking for a friend. |  |
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| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 17:45 - Jun 23 with 1508 views | TresBonne |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 17:45 - Jun 23 by NthQldITFC |
In or on? Asking for a friend. |
On goes in, no? | | | |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 18:05 - Jun 23 with 1378 views | BloomBlue |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 17:44 - Jun 23 by TresBonne |
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That will (possibly) result in the other Arab countries firing missiles at Iran.
Unless Iran is doing what they've done previously and informed the US before they actually fired them. |  | | |
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| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 18:13 - Jun 23 with 1298 views | Trequartista |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 18:05 - Jun 23 by BloomBlue |
That will (possibly) result in the other Arab countries firing missiles at Iran.
Unless Iran is doing what they've done previously and informed the US before they actually fired them. |
This is exactly what i was thinking. (Informing the US beforehand)
"No casualties" say Qatar.
"Glorious Victory" say Iran.
Sounds like a setup initiated by Iran to save face?
I could be very wrong :-) |  |
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| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 18:14 - Jun 23 with 1287 views | Oldsmoker |
Flights will probably be diverted to Mogadishu, Somalia for hub transit to ongoing destinations.
It's the safer option (gulp!). |  |
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| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 18:19 - Jun 23 with 1236 views | Guthrum |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 18:13 - Jun 23 by Trequartista |
This is exactly what i was thinking. (Informing the US beforehand)
"No casualties" say Qatar.
"Glorious Victory" say Iran.
Sounds like a setup initiated by Iran to save face?
I could be very wrong :-) |
Also depends whether the USA is prepared to accept that as a compromise, or if Trump feels it's a loss of face. |  |
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| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 18:25 - Jun 23 with 1187 views | Trequartista |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 18:19 - Jun 23 by Guthrum |
Also depends whether the USA is prepared to accept that as a compromise, or if Trump feels it's a loss of face. |
I'm not going to second guess Trump, I'm just hoping this was a negotiated bit of theatre. We haven't had any news from Iraq yet where Iran also claimed a strike. | |
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| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 20:03 - Jun 23 with 908 views | BloomBlue |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 18:13 - Jun 23 by Trequartista |
This is exactly what i was thinking. (Informing the US beforehand)
"No casualties" say Qatar.
"Glorious Victory" say Iran.
Sounds like a setup initiated by Iran to save face?
I could be very wrong :-) |
I'm sure that's Iran's thinking,
Then the mad mullah terrorist will tell the Iranian people we hit the Americans hard, that will teach them a lesson. | | | |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 20:14 - Jun 23 with 876 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 18:25 - Jun 23 by Trequartista |
I'm not going to second guess Trump, I'm just hoping this was a negotiated bit of theatre. We haven't had any news from Iraq yet where Iran also claimed a strike. |
Media are saying the US was pre-warned, but that won’t matter to Trump.
He will want to strike back again. Once he’s stopped calling people names that is
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| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 20:15 - Jun 23 with 870 views | Churchman |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 18:25 - Jun 23 by Trequartista |
I'm not going to second guess Trump, I'm just hoping this was a negotiated bit of theatre. We haven't had any news from Iraq yet where Iran also claimed a strike. |
Just been watching it. This all looks like a bit of theatre smothered in rhetoric to me. Bit of show, plenty of threats. I suspect it’ll fizzle out
However the threat of something going horribly wrong is high. By that I mean the death of US subjects. Other nationalities killed? It wouldn’t matter to Trump or the Mullahs. Not important in the great scheme of things.
The big question is at what point will Iran acquire a nuclear bomb? A year? Five years? Sadly I think they will and I wouldn’t put a penny on them not using it or Israel using theirs first. |  | | |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 20:49 - Jun 23 with 749 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 20:15 - Jun 23 by Churchman |
Just been watching it. This all looks like a bit of theatre smothered in rhetoric to me. Bit of show, plenty of threats. I suspect it’ll fizzle out
However the threat of something going horribly wrong is high. By that I mean the death of US subjects. Other nationalities killed? It wouldn’t matter to Trump or the Mullahs. Not important in the great scheme of things.
The big question is at what point will Iran acquire a nuclear bomb? A year? Five years? Sadly I think they will and I wouldn’t put a penny on them not using it or Israel using theirs first. |
‘Normal’ leaders would now say “you’ve both had your turn” now lets deescalate.
However a 4 year old is in charge in the USA and just last week he said he didn’t care what the intelligence community said, he would act upon his instinct. | | | |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 20:55 - Jun 23 with 726 views | Churchman |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 20:49 - Jun 23 by ElderGrizzly |
‘Normal’ leaders would now say “you’ve both had your turn” now lets deescalate.
However a 4 year old is in charge in the USA and just last week he said he didn’t care what the intelligence community said, he would act upon his instinct. |
Sadly EG you are right. And that’s the big worry. He really is a simple bully. Unlike Putin, I never get the feeling he applies thought, listening skills or much else to what he does.
You can imagine playing chess against Trump and him sweeping all the pieces off the board after about half a dozen moves as the brain empties.
He reminds me of the last government who’d ’had enough of experts’. Scary. | | | |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 21:33 - Jun 23 with 640 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 20:55 - Jun 23 by Churchman |
Sadly EG you are right. And that’s the big worry. He really is a simple bully. Unlike Putin, I never get the feeling he applies thought, listening skills or much else to what he does.
You can imagine playing chess against Trump and him sweeping all the pieces off the board after about half a dozen moves as the brain empties.
He reminds me of the last government who’d ’had enough of experts’. Scary. |
Christ. Maybe he has grown up, or more likely someone else has his phone
Although, “congratulations world”? F@cking loon. [Post edited 23 Jun 21:34]
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| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 22:01 - Jun 23 with 564 views | Trequartista |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 21:33 - Jun 23 by ElderGrizzly |
Christ. Maybe he has grown up, or more likely someone else has his phone
Although, “congratulations world”? F@cking loon. [Post edited 23 Jun 21:34]
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lol he thanked Iran.
All theatre. BloomBlue was the first to call it further up. | |
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| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 22:05 - Jun 23 with 553 views | StokieBlue |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 21:33 - Jun 23 by ElderGrizzly |
Christ. Maybe he has grown up, or more likely someone else has his phone
Although, “congratulations world”? F@cking loon. [Post edited 23 Jun 21:34]
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Not convinced that calling the response "weak" and then thanking them for the warning is growing up. It's undermining the whole point of the choreography.
Israel and the US have got everything they want, it's not that surprising they are happy with peace now. Hopefully it'll come and it'll hold, but let's not make it out as some altruistic change of heart.
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| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 23:13 - Jun 23 with 427 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 22:05 - Jun 23 by StokieBlue |
Not convinced that calling the response "weak" and then thanking them for the warning is growing up. It's undermining the whole point of the choreography.
Israel and the US have got everything they want, it's not that surprising they are happy with peace now. Hopefully it'll come and it'll hold, but let's not make it out as some altruistic change of heart.
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Ceasefire agreed apparently.
He’ll claim full credit of course and demand that Nobel Peace Prize (again)
Of course, this is Israel agreeing a ceasefire… | | | |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 23:36 - Jun 23 with 353 views | StokieBlue |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 23:13 - Jun 23 by ElderGrizzly |
Ceasefire agreed apparently.
He’ll claim full credit of course and demand that Nobel Peace Prize (again)
Of course, this is Israel agreeing a ceasefire… |
That's great news of course.
What about Gaza though.
SB
Edit: Seems Trump decided it and then had to work out the details as they were still attacking each other most of the night and he gave the IDF 12 more hours to attack Iran than he gave Iran to attack Israel. [Post edited 24 Jun 7:32]
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| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 23:47 - Jun 23 with 327 views | Churchman |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 21:33 - Jun 23 by ElderGrizzly |
Christ. Maybe he has grown up, or more likely someone else has his phone
Although, “congratulations world”? F@cking loon. [Post edited 23 Jun 21:34]
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It’s really wierd that the most powerful man in the world used social media like a 4 year old. Yep, total loon. | | | |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 09:19 - Jun 24 with 108 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Qatar has officially closed its airspace on 23:36 - Jun 23 by StokieBlue |
That's great news of course.
What about Gaza though.
SB
Edit: Seems Trump decided it and then had to work out the details as they were still attacking each other most of the night and he gave the IDF 12 more hours to attack Iran than he gave Iran to attack Israel. [Post edited 24 Jun 7:32]
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Yeah, ceasefire is the usual Israeli type right now.
Still attacking Iran and telling their own citizens to shelter in place due to potential retaliation. | | | |
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