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Cricket 15:11 - Jul 3 with 1330 viewsgainsboroughblue

Is there a desperate attempt to see more games go five days in England?

I don't think I've seen the ball do anything since yesterday.

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Cricket on 15:29 - Jul 3 with 1153 viewschantryblueboy

it’s purely an attempt to make Bazball more successful by taking the pitch out of the equation and making it so any test quality batsman can score big runs on a surface
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Cricket on 15:30 - Jul 3 with 1147 viewsbsw72

Wickets are very dry so seam degrades quickly limiting seam movement and providing more consistent bounce plus little movement in the air with current ongoing dry conditions.

Edgbaston has always been a good wicket to bat on once in, if you can get through early movement off the pitch/swing if conditions are right.

Unless we got through their top order in the first 20-30 overs with the new ball, this was going to be a slog . . .
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Cricket on 16:20 - Jul 3 with 1042 viewsSteve_M

Experience of watching England suggests that there will be plenty of wickets falling soon once we get the last man out....

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Cricket on 16:32 - Jul 3 with 1000 viewsbsw72

Cricket on 15:30 - Jul 3 by bsw72

Wickets are very dry so seam degrades quickly limiting seam movement and providing more consistent bounce plus little movement in the air with current ongoing dry conditions.

Edgbaston has always been a good wicket to bat on once in, if you can get through early movement off the pitch/swing if conditions are right.

Unless we got through their top order in the first 20-30 overs with the new ball, this was going to be a slog . . .
[Post edited 3 Jul 16:11]


That being said, the ball is swinging / seaming round corners in Grenada for the WI against the Aussie batters . . .
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Cricket on 17:06 - Jul 3 with 932 viewsgainsboroughblue

Duckett gone for nowt.

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Cricket on 17:08 - Jul 3 with 925 viewsgainsboroughblue

Cricket on 17:06 - Jul 3 by gainsboroughblue

Duckett gone for nowt.


As has Pope.

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Cricket on 17:10 - Jul 3 with 907 viewsfarkenhell

Cricket on 16:20 - Jul 3 by Steve_M

Experience of watching England suggests that there will be plenty of wickets falling soon once we get the last man out....


Looks like you might be right.
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Cricket on 17:31 - Jul 3 with 842 viewsgainsboroughblue

Well this is going well.

Two days in the field in hot weather is not good preparation to start an innings nearly 600 behind.

India finding lengths England couldn't and this time are holding their chances.

England's unbeaten record under Stokes when conceding 500+ under threat.

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Cricket on 17:36 - Jul 3 with 819 viewsFtnfwest

Cricket on 17:31 - Jul 3 by gainsboroughblue

Well this is going well.

Two days in the field in hot weather is not good preparation to start an innings nearly 600 behind.

India finding lengths England couldn't and this time are holding their chances.

England's unbeaten record under Stokes when conceding 500+ under threat.


This is the rub of bazball, win a few lose a few, but frankly all we had to do was bat first tbh. However wasn’t impressed by bowling at Leeds and even less so now, no future in it.
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Cricket on 17:50 - Jul 3 with 797 viewsgainsboroughblue

Cricket on 17:36 - Jul 3 by Ftnfwest

This is the rub of bazball, win a few lose a few, but frankly all we had to do was bat first tbh. However wasn’t impressed by bowling at Leeds and even less so now, no future in it.


I know Stokes does it because he fancies chasing any target but you run the risk of players weary, drained if out on the field for 5 sessions and added scoreboard pressure.

We do have absentees in the bowling department but our attack really doesn't look good enough. Stokes bowling himself first up this morning wasn't terribly encouraging to see.

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Cricket on 17:53 - Jul 3 with 778 viewsmellowblue

Cricket on 16:32 - Jul 3 by bsw72

That being said, the ball is swinging / seaming round corners in Grenada for the WI against the Aussie batters . . .


and Cummins won the toss and batted, Windies captain would have bowled if he had won. Local knowledge is key. Beautiful cricket venue, would like to be there....
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Cricket on 18:31 - Jul 3 with 730 viewsFtnfwest

Cricket on 17:50 - Jul 3 by gainsboroughblue

I know Stokes does it because he fancies chasing any target but you run the risk of players weary, drained if out on the field for 5 sessions and added scoreboard pressure.

We do have absentees in the bowling department but our attack really doesn't look good enough. Stokes bowling himself first up this morning wasn't terribly encouraging to see.


Wakes out of form but at his age maybe for good who knows? Tongue, not convinced. Stokes still quality but limited. Carse OK but not quite good enough bowler or batsman and Bashir? What's wrong with Jack leach?
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Cricket on 18:58 - Jul 3 with 680 viewsmellowblue

Cricket on 18:31 - Jul 3 by Ftnfwest

Wakes out of form but at his age maybe for good who knows? Tongue, not convinced. Stokes still quality but limited. Carse OK but not quite good enough bowler or batsman and Bashir? What's wrong with Jack leach?


comparing our bowlers to the Australians is a sorry read, might struggle in the next Ashes.
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Cricket on 20:38 - Jul 3 with 606 viewsstonojnr

Cricket on 17:50 - Jul 3 by gainsboroughblue

I know Stokes does it because he fancies chasing any target but you run the risk of players weary, drained if out on the field for 5 sessions and added scoreboard pressure.

We do have absentees in the bowling department but our attack really doesn't look good enough. Stokes bowling himself first up this morning wasn't terribly encouraging to see.


It's the thing I've always said about making him captain, he makes decisions based on what he thinks he can do to change a game, not what the team can do to.
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Cricket on 22:07 - Jul 3 with 549 viewsReuser_is_God

Was there today.

An extremely tough watch.

It also highlighted to me why segregation in football crowds is a good thing having suffered screaming Indians everytime they ran a single.

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Cricket on 22:07 - Jul 3 with 540 viewsReuser_is_God

Cricket on 17:08 - Jul 3 by gainsboroughblue

As has Pope.


Pope is feast of famine isn’t he.

Single figures or 3 figures for him.

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Cricket on 22:13 - Jul 3 with 511 viewsReuser_is_God

Cricket on 17:50 - Jul 3 by gainsboroughblue

I know Stokes does it because he fancies chasing any target but you run the risk of players weary, drained if out on the field for 5 sessions and added scoreboard pressure.

We do have absentees in the bowling department but our attack really doesn't look good enough. Stokes bowling himself first up this morning wasn't terribly encouraging to see.


You can understand the Headingley bowl first due to the history there & the fact it doesn’t deteriorate but Edgbaston has always been a bat first wicket.

Only a good bit of rain at the weekend can save us this week.

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Cricket on 22:14 - Jul 3 with 498 viewsReuser_is_God

Cricket on 18:58 - Jul 3 by mellowblue

comparing our bowlers to the Australians is a sorry read, might struggle in the next Ashes.


But our batting is a lot better than theirs…

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Cricket on 22:48 - Jul 3 with 441 viewstonybied

Cricket on 22:13 - Jul 3 by Reuser_is_God

You can understand the Headingley bowl first due to the history there & the fact it doesn’t deteriorate but Edgbaston has always been a bat first wicket.

Only a good bit of rain at the weekend can save us this week.


We've got to make it to the weekend first. If today was anything to go by we may struggle a bit with that!
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Cricket on 23:27 - Jul 3 with 391 viewsbournemouthblue

Cricket on 22:14 - Jul 3 by Reuser_is_God

But our batting is a lot better than theirs…


They do have as weak a batting line up as they have had for some time

I do fear it's the last big series for that bowling quarter though and they'll be keen to go out with a bang

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Cricket on 11:13 - Jul 4 with 227 viewsgainsboroughblue

I retract my OP.

This could be done tomorrow.

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Cricket on 11:17 - Jul 4 with 222 viewsChrisd

Cricket on 11:13 - Jul 4 by gainsboroughblue

I retract my OP.

This could be done tomorrow.


This is the side of Stokes’ England side or Bazball that I dislike. When things go against us, we seem to crumble and lack fight, some of the shot selection yesterday was poor. If we get out of this mess then that would be huge……I’m not holding my breath.

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Cricket on 11:24 - Jul 4 with 207 viewsvapour_trail

Cricket on 11:13 - Jul 4 by gainsboroughblue

I retract my OP.

This could be done tomorrow.


It could be done this evening.

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Cricket on 12:57 - Jul 4 with 127 viewsReuser_is_God

Cricket on 11:17 - Jul 4 by Chrisd

This is the side of Stokes’ England side or Bazball that I dislike. When things go against us, we seem to crumble and lack fight, some of the shot selection yesterday was poor. If we get out of this mess then that would be huge……I’m not holding my breath.


We crumbled under pressure under previous regimes, it’s not unique to Bazball.

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Cricket on 13:14 - Jul 4 with 84 viewsstonojnr

Cricket on 18:31 - Jul 3 by Ftnfwest

Wakes out of form but at his age maybe for good who knows? Tongue, not convinced. Stokes still quality but limited. Carse OK but not quite good enough bowler or batsman and Bashir? What's wrong with Jack leach?


Nothing except Stokes and Baz dont rate his batting, allegedly, even though they happily consider other options who are worse, so read into it what you will
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