| Hive mind- crows 05:59 - Jul 12 with 1437 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Morning all. 5.50 am and i am awake due to a murder of crows (id like to murder them) that have suddenly moved into the neighbourhood.
OMG they make a noise. I thought the pigeons were annoying but crows are a different level. So loud, so intrusive. Ruins the joy of sleeping with the window open.
In 9.5 years of living where I am there have never been crows. Where did they come from? Why?
Any suggestions as to how one might encourage them to love on? I know they're clever little gits so I'm not convinced by decoys etc. Help. |  |
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| Hive mind- crows on 06:44 - Jul 12 with 1128 views | BlueBoots |
Have you seen or just heard them? Would be unusual to have a flock at this time of year - an unusual amount of extra noise would be more likely caused if a pair have nested nearby (young asking to be fed), or more than one pair are around and territorial battles breaking out; either way should calm down after a while. |  |
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| Hive mind- crows on 07:44 - Jul 12 with 1031 views | WeWereZombies |
Are they crows or rooks ? I have crows around all the time but don't find them particularly intrusive, however I lived in a house in West Cambridgeshire a couple of decades ago that had a rookery densely populated at this time of year and they were a special kind of nuisance level. |  |
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| Hive mind- crows on 08:07 - Jul 12 with 992 views | mellowblue |
I would guess they are rooks and if they found nice trees to nest in, you will be stuck with them during the nesting and juvenile phase of the young birds. Very sociable birds, but very loud and not a pleasant noise. We have loads but it has lessened recently as the young ones gained their independance and the parents leave the matrimonial home and wander around more. I find pigeons more annoying, the noise is less but more constant. |  | | |
| Hive mind- crows on 08:56 - Jul 12 with 938 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
I really don't think you should encourage them to love on as that is only likely to increase the racket surely. |  |
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| Hive mind- crows on 09:43 - Jul 12 with 913 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Hive mind- crows on 06:44 - Jul 12 by BlueBoots |
Have you seen or just heard them? Would be unusual to have a flock at this time of year - an unusual amount of extra noise would be more likely caused if a pair have nested nearby (young asking to be fed), or more than one pair are around and territorial battles breaking out; either way should calm down after a while. |
Seen them, hopping about the trees out the back and front. Usually get it at stupid o'clock in morning and then early/mid eveish think there is 4 or 5 of them.
Its a built up area but with any ally that has some large trees running along the back | |
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| Hive mind- crows on 09:45 - Jul 12 with 905 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Hive mind- crows on 08:07 - Jul 12 by mellowblue |
I would guess they are rooks and if they found nice trees to nest in, you will be stuck with them during the nesting and juvenile phase of the young birds. Very sociable birds, but very loud and not a pleasant noise. We have loads but it has lessened recently as the young ones gained their independance and the parents leave the matrimonial home and wander around more. I find pigeons more annoying, the noise is less but more constant. |
This sounds very likely.
Will they come back next year? | |
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| Hive mind- crows on 10:24 - Jul 12 with 888 views | EdwardStone |
| Hive mind- crows on 07:44 - Jul 12 by WeWereZombies |
Are they crows or rooks ? I have crows around all the time but don't find them particularly intrusive, however I lived in a house in West Cambridgeshire a couple of decades ago that had a rookery densely populated at this time of year and they were a special kind of nuisance level. |
If you see lots of crows together, they're rooks
If you see one rook on its own, it's a crow |  | | |
| Hive mind- crows on 10:28 - Jul 12 with 880 views | eireblue |
You should get some cats, mine like to get up at that time and demand breakfast, so it will give you something to do, |  | | |
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| Hive mind- crows on 10:44 - Jul 12 with 855 views | mellowblue |
| Hive mind- crows on 09:45 - Jul 12 by BlueandTruesince82 |
This sounds very likely.
Will they come back next year? |
I suspect they come back to where they have been successful in the past. We have always had them as the garden is surrounded by tall poplar trees which they seem to like. Whether they are the same birds or not, hard to say, but I think it likely. Sometimes all the local rooks get together for a massive rook rave and it can be deafening with a couple of hundred birds chatting away. Don't notice them so much in wintertime, but with the sun rising later then, it would not matter so much anyway. | | | |
| Hive mind- crows on 11:23 - Jul 12 with 822 views | WeWereZombies |
| Hive mind- crows on 10:24 - Jul 12 by EdwardStone |
If you see lots of crows together, they're rooks
If you see one rook on its own, it's a crow |
And if you see one on the cover of a Stranglers album it's a raven. | |
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| Hive mind- crows on 12:28 - Jul 12 with 771 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Hive mind- crows on 10:28 - Jul 12 by eireblue |
You should get some cats, mine like to get up at that time and demand breakfast, so it will give you something to do, |
Got 2 cats. They do bring stuff home. No rooks/crows though | |
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| Hive mind- crows on 12:29 - Jul 12 with 769 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Hive mind- crows on 10:44 - Jul 12 by mellowblue |
I suspect they come back to where they have been successful in the past. We have always had them as the garden is surrounded by tall poplar trees which they seem to like. Whether they are the same birds or not, hard to say, but I think it likely. Sometimes all the local rooks get together for a massive rook rave and it can be deafening with a couple of hundred birds chatting away. Don't notice them so much in wintertime, but with the sun rising later then, it would not matter so much anyway. |
We've never had them before magpies yes, never this lot. Must have decided they like the look of the place | |
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| Hive mind- crows on 13:42 - Jul 12 with 720 views | BloomBlue |
| Hive mind- crows on 07:44 - Jul 12 by WeWereZombies |
Are they crows or rooks ? I have crows around all the time but don't find them particularly intrusive, however I lived in a house in West Cambridgeshire a couple of decades ago that had a rookery densely populated at this time of year and they were a special kind of nuisance level. |
Apparently more people get confused between rook and crow than any other birds.
Second is confusion between moorhen and coot
Third swift and swallow.
Personally I always got confused between a Little and Tawny owl. |  | | |
| Hive mind- crows on 14:14 - Jul 12 with 691 views | BlueBoots |
| Hive mind- crows on 13:42 - Jul 12 by BloomBlue |
Apparently more people get confused between rook and crow than any other birds.
Second is confusion between moorhen and coot
Third swift and swallow.
Personally I always got confused between a Little and Tawny owl. |
"Second is confusion between moorhen and coot"
In the words of the song, any easy way to remember the difference...
"When the beak and the front of the head are bright red, that's...a Moorhen" | |
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| Hive mind- crows on 14:30 - Jul 12 with 680 views | WeWereZombies |
| Hive mind- crows on 13:42 - Jul 12 by BloomBlue |
Apparently more people get confused between rook and crow than any other birds.
Second is confusion between moorhen and coot
Third swift and swallow.
Personally I always got confused between a Little and Tawny owl. |
There's a Hugh McDairmud poem where he says it's very easy to tell the difference between a cormorant and a shag, one has fourteen feathers in its tail and the other has twelve. | |
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| Hive mind- crows on 14:32 - Jul 12 with 675 views | Mullet |
Have you had any goths move in recently? |  |
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| Hive mind- crows on 15:18 - Jul 12 with 627 views | Kropotkin123 |
1. The sky
2. Flying is the primary way the move
3. I've heard nesting crows make a lot of noise. You might want to encourage them to move on rather than get their love on. May I present... The Scarecrow:
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| Hive mind- crows on 15:46 - Jul 12 with 590 views | Ryorry |
| Hive mind- crows on 13:42 - Jul 12 by BloomBlue |
Apparently more people get confused between rook and crow than any other birds.
Second is confusion between moorhen and coot
Third swift and swallow.
Personally I always got confused between a Little and Tawny owl. |
The clue is in the size! Tawnies are about twice the size of Littlies; the latter aren’t much bigger than blackbirds on average.
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| Hive mind- crows on 15:51 - Jul 12 with 585 views | Ryorry |
| Hive mind- crows on 09:45 - Jul 12 by BlueandTruesince82 |
This sounds very likely.
Will they come back next year? |
We had a whole rookery of them, hundreds of the things creating a right cacophony all year round in local woods at dusk. After a couple of years they just seemed to disappear though, so fingers crossed for you! | |
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| Hive mind- crows on 16:01 - Jul 12 with 564 views | Axeldalai_lama |
Can't believe there's been no home and away based Alf Stewart suggestions to stone the flamin' crows!! |  | | |
| Hive mind- crows on 16:09 - Jul 12 with 548 views | mellowblue |
| Hive mind- crows on 13:42 - Jul 12 by BloomBlue |
Apparently more people get confused between rook and crow than any other birds.
Second is confusion between moorhen and coot
Third swift and swallow.
Personally I always got confused between a Little and Tawny owl. |
swallows and swifts are quite different really , swallows are smaller with pronounced long forked tail. Swifts and housemartins look more similar in shape. Sadly I can not remember the last time I saw any of them locally, which is a shame as they are all superb fliers . | | | |
| Hive mind- crows on 16:30 - Jul 12 with 535 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Hive mind- crows on 10:24 - Jul 12 by EdwardStone |
If you see lots of crows together, they're rooks
If you see one rook on its own, it's a crow |
I was going to say that. Well done forvgetting in first. |  | | |
| Hive mind- crows on 17:06 - Jul 12 with 492 views | Portmanteauxcurling |
| Hive mind- crows on 10:24 - Jul 12 by EdwardStone |
If you see lots of crows together, they're rooks
If you see one rook on its own, it's a crow |
A hypothesis that's actually a load of ol' bollox. |  | | |
| Hive mind- crows on 17:19 - Jul 12 with 468 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Hive mind- crows on 17:06 - Jul 12 by Portmanteauxcurling |
A hypothesis that's actually a load of ol' bollox. |
Incorrect.
Yes it's a generalisation but mostly it works well. | | | |
| Hive mind- crows on 17:44 - Jul 12 with 450 views | DJR |
| Hive mind- crows on 17:06 - Jul 12 by Portmanteauxcurling |
A hypothesis that's actually a load of ol' bollox. |
Not according to the RSPB website.
"1. A Crow in a crowd is a Rook, a Rook on its own is a Crow
This describes how Carrion Crows are mostly encountered alone or in pairs, whereas Rooks often feed together in large, sociable groups. Although not infallible – groups of Crows might be seen together where there are good feeding opportunities, for example – it is still a good general principle for distinguishing between these commonly confused birds." |  | | |
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