| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m 11:50 - Jul 16 with 4378 views | portmanking |
As another poster said, Rutter to Brighton set a decent benchmark. I'd put Omari in a similar bracket to him in terms of talent/potential. |  | | |  |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 11:54 - Jul 16 with 3509 views | vilanovablue |
I think a figure somewhere between the 2 would get it done. I don't want him to go but think it is a decent price. |  | | |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 11:56 - Jul 16 with 3456 views | giant_stow |
Sorry to be an arsehole, but I'm a bit surprised how much your fella seems to be worth. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he only scored a couple innit?
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| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:00 - Jul 16 with 3319 views | Jon_456 |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 11:56 - Jul 16 by giant_stow |
Sorry to be an arsehole, but I'm a bit surprised how much your fella seems to be worth. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he only scored a couple innit?
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As a buying club I wouldn’t want my team to be paying more than £25-£30m for him. Done well for us but could be quite inconsistent, although in fairness he didn’t exactly have much quality around him.
He has 4years left on his deal though and we don’t need to sell so why not hold out for £40m. | | | |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:02 - Jul 16 with 3265 views | giant_stow |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:00 - Jul 16 by Jon_456 |
As a buying club I wouldn’t want my team to be paying more than £25-£30m for him. Done well for us but could be quite inconsistent, although in fairness he didn’t exactly have much quality around him.
He has 4years left on his deal though and we don’t need to sell so why not hold out for £40m. |
4 years left must explain most of it, I spose. | |
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| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:02 - Jul 16 with 3248 views | chantryblueboy |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 11:56 - Jul 16 by giant_stow |
Sorry to be an arsehole, but I'm a bit surprised how much your fella seems to be worth. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he only scored a couple innit?
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Well you’ve asked £20m for 20 game a season Sargent which makes it seem a bit less outlandish | | | |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:05 - Jul 16 with 3132 views | vilanovablue |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 11:56 - Jul 16 by giant_stow |
Sorry to be an arsehole, but I'm a bit surprised how much your fella seems to be worth. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he only scored a couple innit?
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He's had such little experience it's difficult to know what his value is. His performances in the U21 demonstrate that when he plays with better players he can perform better. We can say what we like but Brentford will still likely be stronger than us next season as well as playing in the premiership. We also know that Brentford may have a fair bit of cash to burn which does put us in a decent negotiating position. | | | |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:05 - Jul 16 with 3116 views | CrayonKing |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 11:56 - Jul 16 by giant_stow |
Sorry to be an arsehole, but I'm a bit surprised how much your fella seems to be worth. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he only scored a couple innit?
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I don't think he had a great season overall but he did score very highly on some of the stats scouts love nowadays.
I think its mostly that he had a storming U21 tournament though |  | | |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:06 - Jul 16 with 3084 views | baxterbasics |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:00 - Jul 16 by Jon_456 |
As a buying club I wouldn’t want my team to be paying more than £25-£30m for him. Done well for us but could be quite inconsistent, although in fairness he didn’t exactly have much quality around him.
He has 4years left on his deal though and we don’t need to sell so why not hold out for £40m. |
I think your point about the players around him is the key factor. Put him in a quality PL squad and I think he will do some serious business.
Whether or not that's Brentford, am not so sure. |  |
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| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:08 - Jul 16 with 3032 views | _clive_baker_ |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 11:56 - Jul 16 by giant_stow |
Sorry to be an arsehole, but I'm a bit surprised how much your fella seems to be worth. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he only scored a couple innit?
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Footballer valuations are nuts, but he's 21, English, and every bit a Premier League player who could go on to be an international player. I'd agree £40m is punchy tbh, but £35m is reasonable. If anything it just goes to show how cheap Delap was at £30m.
Also if Sideshow Bob Sargent is worth £20m then Hutchinson is worth £90m innit. |  | | |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:09 - Jul 16 with 2955 views | Churchman |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 11:56 - Jul 16 by giant_stow |
Sorry to be an arsehole, but I'm a bit surprised how much your fella seems to be worth. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he only scored a couple innit?
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He’s a terrific prospect and is learning all the time. Despite playing in a bad team in the Premier League he didn’t look out of place.
Hutchinson is on a long contract, young, an England u21 and worth every penny of £40m. Given player price inflation, money flowing into established PL clubs like Brentford and a sell on clause for Chelsea, I’d be opening the batting at £50m. If people don’t want to engage, unless the player is desperate to leave or we are desperate to sell, I’d be telling the likes of Brentford to go away. |  | | |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:17 - Jul 16 with 2771 views | JohnTy |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:06 - Jul 16 by baxterbasics |
I think your point about the players around him is the key factor. Put him in a quality PL squad and I think he will do some serious business.
Whether or not that's Brentford, am not so sure. |
It was fairly noticeable how in the second half of the season opposition teams quickly surrounded him whenever he got possession. In a higher quality team he would get more space than he did last season. |  | | |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:18 - Jul 16 with 2721 views | Chris_ITFC |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 11:56 - Jul 16 by giant_stow |
Sorry to be an arsehole, but I'm a bit surprised how much your fella seems to be worth. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he only scored a couple innit?
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A couple?
No, it was just 1 he got in the Euro U21s final.
You know, him being one of the top English talents, and all. |  |
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| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:23 - Jul 16 with 2579 views | baxterbasics |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:17 - Jul 16 by JohnTy |
It was fairly noticeable how in the second half of the season opposition teams quickly surrounded him whenever he got possession. In a higher quality team he would get more space than he did last season. |
Indeed, or if not, at least he's taking multiple opposition players out of the game thereby making space for others. | |
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| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:23 - Jul 16 with 2581 views | giant_stow |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:08 - Jul 16 by _clive_baker_ |
Footballer valuations are nuts, but he's 21, English, and every bit a Premier League player who could go on to be an international player. I'd agree £40m is punchy tbh, but £35m is reasonable. If anything it just goes to show how cheap Delap was at £30m.
Also if Sideshow Bob Sargent is worth £20m then Hutchinson is worth £90m innit. |
Poor Josh and his hair.
I'm not equipped to debate anything here - not really seen either play, so best to stay shut. | |
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| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:28 - Jul 16 with 2448 views | bsw72 |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 11:56 - Jul 16 by giant_stow |
Sorry to be an arsehole, but I'm a bit surprised how much your fella seems to be worth. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he only scored a couple innit?
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Football transfer fees are inconsistent and very, very subjective.
What I mean is that a single transfer fee does not necessarily reflect what a player is actually worth in the wider market, but what the value is to the buying club combined with the position that the selling club is in.
Town are in a position of strength, financially secure, stable board and management team, plus a talented and young Championship squad especially when looking at the attacking midfield options. We are not under any pressure to sell our players, so can push up the asking prices.
Teams are not spending millions on Omari based on last season's performances in the prem, or even to an extent his performances for the U21s in the summer - you are paying for the potential of a player he *could* become, if his development over the last 24 months can be continued.
It is very different buying an U23 player versus an older player, who is more established.
Is Omari worth £40M - in my opinion no, but Brentford may well see something in him that they are willing to risk going a few milltion above "market" rates to secure his services. [Post edited 16 Jul 12:42]
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| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:37 - Jul 16 with 2294 views | JohnTy |
Interesting bit of background detail in the Standard article which I had not heard before:
"Hutchinson turned down initial interest from Leeds United and Sunderland as he is wary of being involved in another relegation battle next season. But he doesn’t believe that will be an issue at Brentford." | | | |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:58 - Jul 16 with 1975 views | NthQldITFC |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 11:56 - Jul 16 by giant_stow |
Sorry to be an arsehole, but I'm a bit surprised how much your fella seems to be worth. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he only scored a couple innit?
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He's not the finished article yet (if anyone ever is) and I think that people realise he has the potential to be a standout PL player in a year or two's time.
He's easily worth four or five times what your Zorro-looking bloke was worth, in my opinion, but then you did spectacularly well (as usual) to get 14m for him. |  |
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| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 13:00 - Jul 16 with 1948 views | Basuco |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:37 - Jul 16 by JohnTy |
Interesting bit of background detail in the Standard article which I had not heard before:
"Hutchinson turned down initial interest from Leeds United and Sunderland as he is wary of being involved in another relegation battle next season. But he doesn’t believe that will be an issue at Brentford." |
Also, "Chelsea, who sold Hutchinson to Ipswich last summer, hold matching rights to any accepted offer, but are expected to waive them." I haven't seen that before. |  | | |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 13:03 - Jul 16 with 1844 views | JohnTy |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 13:00 - Jul 16 by Basuco |
Also, "Chelsea, who sold Hutchinson to Ipswich last summer, hold matching rights to any accepted offer, but are expected to waive them." I haven't seen that before. |
I think other clubs now know what Ipswich want for him, and clearly he is very open to a move to any club that is not a relegation prospect, although he might prefer London. There is now talk about Everton pursuing their interest in him. [Post edited 16 Jul 13:05]
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| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 13:11 - Jul 16 with 1686 views | ArnieM |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 11:56 - Jul 16 by giant_stow |
Sorry to be an arsehole, but I'm a bit surprised how much your fella seems to be worth. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he only scored a couple innit?
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And your lot frequently get good fees for bang average players..... at least our players is more than decent. Maybe Town will finally get a good deal on an asset. Sorry if that disappoints you. |  |
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| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 13:16 - Jul 16 with 1613 views | Basuco |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 11:56 - Jul 16 by giant_stow |
Sorry to be an arsehole, but I'm a bit surprised how much your fella seems to be worth. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he only scored a couple innit?
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I think the fact Brentford are looking for £65 million for Byran Mbeumo, Man Utd are currently offering £55 million, who Omari would replace is also a factor, he was double and often triple man marked last season so most clubs held a huge respect for his ability, and as many have said he is a young English talent with a lot of potential and if he continues to develop at his current rate Brentford will sell him on at a profit in a year or two. | | | |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 13:18 - Jul 16 with 1562 views | BloomBlue |
If they offer £40m take it.
I'm still slightly confused by it all. I didn't think he had a great season last season, I would mark it as average. Many fans, including on TWTD, questioned his input regularly. Kept running into players, didn't pass when he should, then passed when he shouldn't. I appreciate value is often based on potential, but £40m would be crazy to turn down.
McAtee is apparently leaving City for £25m, there are other options out there, £40m you can not turn down. |  | | |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 13:19 - Jul 16 with 1535 views | DarkBrandon |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 13:16 - Jul 16 by Basuco |
I think the fact Brentford are looking for £65 million for Byran Mbeumo, Man Utd are currently offering £55 million, who Omari would replace is also a factor, he was double and often triple man marked last season so most clubs held a huge respect for his ability, and as many have said he is a young English talent with a lot of potential and if he continues to develop at his current rate Brentford will sell him on at a profit in a year or two. |
Very true. When you are the most creative player in a weak side, you never get any space, as all the defenders are focused on you.
When you are a creative player in a side who have threats all over the place it is just much easier.
He’s young, English and highly talented. He’s definitely PL quality. £40m seems quite reasonable to me. But I’d much rather he stayed for another year [Post edited 16 Jul 13:20]
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| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 13:25 - Jul 16 with 1421 views | RIPbobby |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 12:05 - Jul 16 by vilanovablue |
He's had such little experience it's difficult to know what his value is. His performances in the U21 demonstrate that when he plays with better players he can perform better. We can say what we like but Brentford will still likely be stronger than us next season as well as playing in the premiership. We also know that Brentford may have a fair bit of cash to burn which does put us in a decent negotiating position. |
U21s match level is not a patch on the prem. It has inflated his price nicely for us. If I was a continental club I'd snap him up. Bit trickier for him in the prem though |  | | |
| London Standard say we're holding out for £40m on 14:30 - Jul 16 with 1105 views | ronnyd |
When i read that quickly, i thought, whats that got to do with the airport?  | | | |
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